Probably a good thing I've never listened to Styx.. or any rock for that matter, since 1973.. Now I don't have to worry about that song getting stuck in my head :)
Keep it up.. and I'll have to modify the world's most annoying, get stuck in the head, song of all time..
It's an island after all
It's an island after all
It's an island after all
it's a small small rock..
It's a rock of jungle
a rock of beach
It's a rock near water
too close to reach
where the kraken abound
there's some trees to be found
it's a small small rock..
Too late.. you forced my hand.
Prof: How long would it take for us to make a camp site? (guessing that it is some value that is modified by people/rolls?)
Taking a look through the book right now.. just trying to figure out what it would be in game time just in case it sways people one way or another.
No more rhymes now, i mean it!
No more rhymes now, i mean it!
Was that a refrence to princess bride?
Anybody want a peanut?
Just a question for the rogues, im guessing the swashbuckler is going melee... but take a look at the gangup feat. Now i haven't seen if there is errata for it but it should work for ranged; since the dwarf and myself will probably be in the thick of it, should allow those ranged sneak attacks to help thin their#s while we try the keep away.
Gnagup: two creatures threatening a target you are considered flanking, i may be missing a prereq or it may be adjacent but if it works like i think it does... really opens the door for some ranged dmg.
And... does anone have a compass or wayfinder? They give+ 4 on surv checks to find your way. (At least i think they do... may need map.)
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Prof: How long would it take for us to make a camp site?
How long's a piece of string? Or, put another way: will that be the basic lean-to, or the luxury treehouse with working showers? In other words, it depends exactly what you mean by 'camp site' - are you digging a protective ditch with a raised earthern wall and a pallisade? Building log cabins? Or just sitting on the sand and declaring the spot a 'camp'?
As for 'Gang Up' - flanking only ever works in melee, so the Feat means you are classed as being in a 'flanking' position more often in melee, but doesn't break the basic rules of flanking and allow you to 'flank' at range. (Page 195 of the core rulebook, table 8.5 lists a dash for 'Flanking defended' in the 'ranged' column, plus the Flanking text on p.197 starts with 'When making a melee attack...'.)
My apologies for the lack of description.
Campsite:
Leanto's for basic element protection (for ease id say 2-3 people a leanto )
a hole dug for waste
fire pit
ditch dug around perimeter
And the one probably take most time, shoddy wooden palisade on he inside of the ditch. (Could i get an estimate with/without in case we end up needing to move camp and this seems to me the most taxing portion. (Of course digging withot shovels will be fun)
Now as for camp dimensions id say a few feet of space between the rudimentary structures. A distance of 3-5 meters from the fire pit and the waste pit off in a corner somewhere.
Oh well was a thought about the gangup.
Let me know if im missing something... or if someone wants to add. Im tryig to go for a decent base camp where we could spend a week or two in some comfort. Additions/improvements could be made later.
As to Gang Up, at this point it is unlikely that Tony would take it. It seems vaguely dishonorable somehow.
As to Gang Up, at this point it is unlikely that Tony would take it. It seems vaguely dishonorable somehow.
I thought there was no honor amongst thieves.
Also i love the flurry of posts after each dm post! Glad to see the group is stoked to play!
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Okay... excavating 100sq ft of dirt takes approx. 10 man-hours... assuming you have the right digging kit with you (everyone got a spade?). How deep, wide, and long do you want your ditch, and how high do you want your earthworks (assuming that you use the dirt from the ditch to build up the earthworks wall on the inside of said ditch)? I'll even let you do the maths! ;)
Digging for long hours in the jungle heat and humidity will require Fortitude checks, and building stuff will require Craft rolls (or a Survival check if it's kept simple). Starting a fire will require a Survival check.
Erecting a 100ft length of 10ft high wooden pallisade will take approx. 400 man hours. There's never a Roman Legion around when you need one... ;)
Is it scary that I have stats for this stuff on hand? Put it down to a life wasted collecting role-play and historical books...
Of course, you'll need to decide where to camp. Gelik seems to be suggesting just by the edge of the jungle / beach divide... but then again, he's a pretty lazy guy... If you want to go inland you'll need to find a clearing for that style of camp... or do some jungle clearance (I've the man-hours rate for that too, but I'm thinking it's more a long-term planning thing).
BTW - Shisa's poor dicebot showing with the social skills is cracking me up! All we need now is for Mundin to talk to Aerys and score a 20 on his Diplomacy attempt. :)
Hmm I was thinking a 3 foot ditch with a 5 foot barrier on top of the earthen palisade would give me an equivalent of 10 feet.. (Its just supposed to keep most things out; not a kraken cultist out to hunt me down)
I will take your estimates and do some planning...
Estimates for jungle clearing would be GREAT; just so I have something to think about for later on (Ie we think we need to move camp because its just too $#(@ long too travel in the jungle)
BTW - Shisa's poor dicebot showing with the social skills is cracking me up! All we need now is for Mundin to talk to Aerys and score a 20 on his Diplomacy attempt. :)
Sadly, I tried to make a balanced character with no dump stat.. Even so, I guess Shisa is not a very diplomatic person.. despite her half-elven looks..
Mundin, you better not roll a 20..again ;)
..its just too $#(@ long too travel in the jungle)
I can relate to that. Depending on the vegetation and terrain, it can take up to 6 hours or longer to go 5 kilometers (about 3 miles) without a path to follow. It's definitely slow going.
Now if I can only remember the +3 mod to trained class skills.. but with all the 1's and 2's I've rolled.. wouldn't help..
I guess Aerys and Gelik don't like my sparkling personality.. yah, that's it.. :) Hey, it's my lie, I can tell it how I want to.
Taking 10:
When your character is not in "immediate danger" or distracted, you may choose to take 10.
Depends on your definition of immediate danger. I would say falling off a cliff face constitutes danger.
Mmm featherfall. Go roll a 20 tony!
I look at it this way (maybe incorrectly mind you as I'm new to the 3.5x rules not having truly RP'd since 2e)
Taking 10 would indicate taking your time and using care when trying a task with an average chance of success. So unless you're about to get hurt because you're not paying attention to the world around you, or that pesky gnome isn't talking your ear off, you focus on what you're doing.
Taking 20 would be the 'try until you get it right' method where you fail a few times before getting it right. Hence you can't take 20 if there are penalties to failure.
Yep i got mixed up
whatever proff potts says i'll go with it lol.
My non take 10 roll, if we can't, was a 19 not a 20. SO with my bonus 26
It's the paladin alley oop. Works every time.
The downfall of the paladin alley oop.. it needs another paladin.
i doubt it would save me from the nat 1 (i blame shisa jinxing me) If Aerodus does die, at least he had a semi....interesting death ( I mean look at all them high rolls!) for a bit there I thought he was going to make it
i blame shisa jinxing me
Oh yah, sure.. blame the good looking rogue. No one saw me jinx you, you can't prove it. *Looking around for someone to backstab just in case*
Jinx silently
See I knew it! A witch! Hexed me with her evil eye!
Now if it was a knotted silk rope, that brings the dc down to 5 almost impossible to lose your grip.
And where is feather fall when you need it?
See I knew it! A witch! Hexed me with her evil eye!
*feigned hurt look* My eyes aren't evil.. they're a nice hazel. Take a look.. a deep look.. see..
*avert gaze* ( bonus to save!) But of course the anti siren! Whose song drives sailors to crash their ships onto rocks to escape! Combined with the evil eye to smite our intrepid paladin while he climbs the perilious cliffs. Truly you are a vile creature indeed, the head of the kraken cult has been found! (All in good fun)
Also... wow no climb, no swim as class skills.... may need to take athletic feat. That or get some sort of atv mount.
Truly you are a vile creature indeed, the head of the kraken cult has been found! (All in good fun)
Ah but it wasn't I that summoned the kraken while we slept, nor was it I calling out to them the entire voyage. Methinks yon paladin is trying to shift the blame to little ol' me. *exaggerated pout*
(aye, all in good fun)
I really love the group dynamic we have. Going to be very interesting when things heat up and everyone gets comfortable with the scenario and their character. Looking forward to it.
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That or get some sort of atv mount.
We all know Aerodus is gonna' get himself a kraken mount... or some sort of giant lobster in any case... ;)
Do you want me to adjust the char sheet or just adjust during rolls?
Having your correct skill totals (and the breakdown for those totals for that matter) listen on your character sheet helps me when I need to check them.
I can see it now... aerodus with his giant crab mount "pinchy" Surrender or face the claws of justice!
Also wow i forgot my human skill point... ill apply it at next lvl (if he lives that long) if that is ok with you prof.
Will probably end up in diplo... knowing our party luck.
Having your correct skill totals (and the breakdown for those totals for that matter) listen on your character sheet helps me when I need to check them.
Thanks.. will update as soon as I get home from work. Don't have books with me.
I can see it now... aerodus with his giant crab mount "pinchy" Surrender or face the claws of justice!
If you'd have said, 'Surrender or face the long claw of the law', I'd have had to thwap you upside the head and leave you in the water.. But then again, that'd be another rhyme and Mundin would probably beat me to it.
Hrm.. maybe you being in the water is not such a good thing.. you're probably calling on your kraken friends.. it's the perfect cover.
Oooh you can call me... law clawer... and it would be like spiderman, (wall crawler) and i could have doc croc as my nemesis. Yes... its all coming togeher now. Once i get home from work ill do my drowning rolls... 3/20 chance of making it.
Oooh you can call me... law clawer...
*thwap*
good thing I was between pretzels.. it's gooey when it's stuck to a monitor..
Ring of swimming / Gloves of climbing.... yes!
Did we scare away our druid??
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Aerodus, if you're missing a skill point, then by all means add it in now - no reason to wait 'till next level 'cos of bad maths... ;)
... Assuming, of course, our friendly neighborhood paladin survives being fish-bait. :o
BTW: sorry all for the large amounts of OOC posting I seem to be doing. Turns out the AP uses a lot of the lesser-known bits of the rules which I'm taking time to spell out, but hopefully we'll have covered 'em all soon. Also takes a bit of time for players to get familiar with the way I run stuff, hence even more OOC-ness, but again, that should be lessened over time.
Oh, I don't think I mentioned, but I generally like PCs to keep track of their own HP et al to prevent me seeing this as book-keeping work instead of fun... you'll all be honest, right? :)
P.S. I'm not trying to kill off Aerodus... but I think maybe the dicebot is... eeevil dicebot!
Yea the nl dmg rules through me for a loop, i was used to .5nl dmg being lethal. So that is why his hp was lower than originally showed.
Nothing like the apg premier ap to bring back all the fun and environmental rules. Want to buy jungle bane armor?
Even though he has only really been around for a few days in game time. I've already fallen in love with aerodus's chat even with all his terrible decision making skills. Now you are making me think about crab/scorpin mounts.
*I Just died in your arms tonight....*
*I Just died in your arms tonight....*
Quick Tony.. throw him back in. He's too small to keep. ;)
*I Just died in your arms tonight....*Quick Tony.. throw him back in. He's too small to keep. ;)
Did I mention im a paladin of song?? (Just wait till I get the body guard feat..)
Did I mention im a paladin of song?? (Just wait till I get the body guard feat..)
Just be glad Shisa didn't see the lip lock of life.. you'd never live it down!
Great rolls Tony. Glad things worked out that way.. hate to see chars die due to mechanics even though they're a necessary evil. Now random acts of stupidity however.. heh.
Besides.. Shisa doesn't want to have to break in another Paly *grin*
*adding mudin of list of people to smite/modify memory*
As long as tony/mundin keep it to themselves, aerodus will never know....
*adding mudin of list of people to smite/modify memory*
As long as tony/mundin keep it to themselves, aerodus will never know....
Oh, I can hear the campfire stories now.. about the fearless, intrepid warrior of his deity being saved by a suave rogue.. Yup, skewer the snake and let's have a roast.. muhahahaha.
Just hope Aerys didn't see it from the beach..
*adding shisa to the list* yes...
*adding shisa to the list* yes...
I din see nothing.. unless you mean that weird kraken worshiping ritual thingy.. nope.. din see a thing ;)
Ah they joys of being in the bowels of a shattered ship cursing at a lock refusing to budge.. My eyes were spared the kraken worship ritual lip lock of life. Go me!!
I said we will never speak of this again!
I said we will never speak of this again!
Speak of what?
*ahem* This is a test of your local paladin service.
ITS COMING TO GET YOU!!!!
Thank you; this has been a test of your local paladin service.. Have a nice day.
*Crosses mundin's name off the list?*
Hmmm... the paladin passes out and something wakes up... coincidence? Or evil mind transferance!? As always, we let you, the viewers, make up your own minds... :)
SShh I told you prof: keep the anti paladin mind tricks a secret!
I wonder if i could hit the uncounscious paladin with my throwing axe from here ;)
I wonder if i could hit the uncounscious paladin with my throwing axe from here ;)
Use a rock.. there's plenty where you're sitting and no use wasting a good axe ;)
Well.. at lease we know his head isn't flaming..unless the water temporarily put it out..
And thus begins the official 'Pick on the Paly' day. *evil rogue grin*
Tony, you should have picked his pockets and pouches before taking part in the lip lock of life kraken raising ritual heh.
Picked up the faction guide the other day... and i must say the antipaladin of the old gods is looking better and better,
What is the range increament on the rock? Prone gives+ 4 ac vs ranged too <('.'<)
Still here... just waiting to see if aerodus will wake up or dies in his sleep. Can i post about his near death experience? I figure since the way aerodus is played might as well set a prescident, and since shisa may need it here in a bit! *good luck vs whatever it is*
Still here... just waiting to see if aerodus will wake up or dies in his sleep. Can i post about his near death experience? I figure since the way aerodus is played might as well set a prescident, and since shisa may need it here in a bit! *good luck vs whatever it is*
Hey, I think that'd be a great idea. Warrior of the gods.. near death.. vision perhaps.. Definitely be in keeping with the character. DM input maybe? Awesome idea!
Yah, Shisa is fun loving but tends to get loud when angry or frustrated.. Between the background noise and the desk not wanting to open, she's a bit irate. Suffering from typical lack-of-experience-I-should-be-able-to-do-this syndrom. I think she's about to learn a lesson.. owie.