Help me double-check my Bloodrager for a new group session.


Hey guys, I am still pretty new to Pathfinder and I want to double-check my latest character. Basically, I'd like you guys to help me make this guy better or more streamlined if possible. The group is all relatively new players but my first character was not the best I've ever made and so I want to put this guy to the test.

Character Sheet:
Big McLargeHuge
Primalist Bloodrager 8 (Abyssal Blooded)
CG Medium humanoid (Human)
Init +3-1 depending on Size

89-104 HP (At average HP per level)
AC 17-15, touch 13-11, flat-footed 14 (+4 Masterwork Chain Shirt, +3-1 Dex)
hp 5 (1d10)
Fort +11-13, Ref +6-4, Will 5 (Cloak of Resistance +1)


Speed 40 ft.
Melee: Furious Adamantine Broadsword +1 2d6-4d6+1 depending on Size +9-15 depending on Size


Str 23-31 (belt of Giant's Strength +2), Dex 16, Con 18, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 16 (Best Roll ever)
Base Atk +8; CMB +14-23; CMD 27-31
Feats: Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Toughness , Battlecry, Improved Sunder, Lunge
Skills Perception, Climb, Swim, Intimidate, Spellcraft, Knowledge Arcana, Acrobatics (+8)
Languages Common, two others I need to pick

Abilities: Claws, Demonic Bulk, Quick Reflexes and Reckless Abandon (Rage powers in place of 8th level Bloodline ability)

Spells 1st level: Long Arm, ThunderStomp, Blade Lash, Enlarge Person: (2 spells a day)
Spells 2nd Level: Tremor Blast, Mirror Image, False Life: (2 spells a day)

We have half starting gold (16.5k), so I "bought" the following items, though nothing is final until Nov 9th when I play him for the first time:

Belt of Giant's Strength 4,000
+1 Adamantine Furious Weapon, 11,050
Master work Chain Shirt 250
Cloak of Resistance

and I have 200 gold to spend. I selected the spells I did under the idea that I will only be able to cast 4 total a day and so my Charisma is going to be neglected until I feel the need to buff it up for better DCs. I mainly went with buffs or things that did not require a lot of Cha in order to work effectively.

This guy's strategy should probably be pretty obvious, but I will explain it anyway. Big Mclargehuge Rages and becomes Large, he then casts Enlarge Person on himself to reach Huge and 4d6 damage with his Greatsword. Also to hit like 31 strength at level 8 and Pummel things to death with 10ft reach. This is the goal I need a ton of HP to soak the damage I take from losing 4 AC to pull this trick off and another 3 when power attacking and another 2 when lunging for those 15ft attacks. I also took longarm incase I ever wanted to just have absurd reach for the lolz, or if I could not increase in size. I wanted to make use of my reach to pull off more Attacks of opportunity, however doubling my size costs me 2 AoOs so I took it from the rage power to hit 3 AoOs during a turn. Not four, but still decent especially when I take Come and Get Me in 4 levels.

Feats I was considering: Greater Sunder, Reckless Rage, Arcane Strike, Blooded Arcane Strike, Vital Strike, Blasting Charge (Later), Raging Brutality (Later).

Is this guy workable, or have I made some glaring errors I can't spot? Any suggestions for improvement? Different feats, different armor choices, better magical items?

All help is appreciated.

Enlarge person is not gonna stack with demonic bulk.
Battlecry should go for pehaps arcane strike or improved initiative or Raging vitality.
Also Quick reflexes i would Exchange for somthing other, pehaps strength surge.
Now where you have claws i would consider getting Frostbite as one of your spells. Also shield could be on that list.

Demonic Bulk is a supernatural ability actually, I believe it does stack since it is not a magical ability and Enlarge person on states that you cannot be "magically" increased in size. Not sure about that though.

I kind of like Battlecry for the rerolls for save tanking, but I could easily see myself taking Raging Vitality. Infact Toughness may get swapped out for that since I believe it is a straight upgrade.

Quick Reflexes is there to help with the AoOs, if I swapped it for anything it would probably be for the free AoO when I am raging. Perhaps Strength Surge for my sundering, but honestly it isn't fantastic.
I do have claws, but I was not planning on using them a lot unless I get caught without my sword. Not enough gold to really use them.

Also, my AC is going to be pitiful regardless as to what I do with Reckless Abandon, size increases, and so I didn't take shield.

I'd replace Toughness along with Battle Cry for Arcane Strike and Bloodied Arcane Strike, so that if anything provokes an attack of opportunity, you blow it up. You have excellent CON, so you don't need Toughness.

Your Will saves look terrible, so Steadfast Personality could be something to look towards, perhaps replacing Improved Sunder -- or you are keen in breaking the loot for your party?

I'm guessing you don't have traits too? Because you could really use Irrepressible.

ShroudedInLight wrote:

Demonic Bulk is a supernatural ability actually, I believe it does stack since it is not a magical ability and Enlarge person on states that you cannot be "magically" increased in size. Not sure about that though.

"Magic" is a blanket term for spells, spell-likes, and Supernatural abilities. So both are indeed magic.

It's why Su and Sp abilities are listed on the Magic pages of the rulebook.

No traits I am afraid, and Bloodied Arcane Strike was considered but not something I wanted without Vital Strike...I could swap those three out for Lunge too. It was an option I was considering, since I already have 10ft reach and can wait to have more, I can also Long Arms for more reach if I really need it during a fight.

Steadfast Personality would give me a +3 to my will save, which I would consider.

I like Battlecry because it does allow me a free re-roll on any failed save, which can help out more than a +3 could depending on the roll. Sadly Bloodragers do not have the best natural saves >_> I was actually considering combining Battlecry with Strong Comeback for +2 on any failed save.


I forgot to include the Will Save bonus from raging.

I am an idiot. Will is 7 when raging.

Also, yeah, I guessed that might have been the case. I remember reading another thread here that said they were separate and stacked, but it was just one I googled. I could try to find it again.

Darn, I did not read it to completion it was this one if anyone was interested:

Drat, there goes the Huge part of Big McLargeHuge, guess I have to fall back to just being large and having Gangly gangly arms to full attack with at 15-20 feet.

If you dont plan on using the claws. You Can go abherrent bloodline and then enlarge your self. I Think long arms Stack with abherrent reach.

Sovereign Court

Demonic Bulk and Enlarge Person will not stack because they are both Polymorph effects and you cannot be under the effect of more than one polymorph effect at a time.

"You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell."

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