I shamefully acknowledge my high post frequency and density as contributing to the problem.
In an effort to be part of the solution, I henceforth vow to post a miserly 3-4 sentences devoid of all the most necessary details, and to make those posts at a rate that is just this side of being dropped for non-participation!
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Oh, who am I kidding? That vow probably won't last the day before being broken. I'm horrible, horrible person.
People have very different times of increased activity. Depending on the time of day I post, I get fast responses from different people.
As such, in situations like combat, that time zone spread WILL turn posts into a daily affair, with or without you.
Dropping out because of that would be an excuse, not a moral obligation.
Because it would not affect anything. Feel free to check the last combats.
Depending on when I updated(night or morning, for me) different people got to post first, but ultimately, it almost always took the full day until everybody had posted.
As such, during turn-based phases, that slow down is a reality, not an option.
Alas, what B really meant is that for most games I was in, it was a somewhat natural process that things slowed down a bit after a few months.
-snip-In an effort to be part of the solution, I henceforth vow to post a miserly 3-4 sentences devoid of all the most necessary details, and to make those posts at a rate that is just this side of being dropped for non-participation!-snip-
Believe it or not, from what I've seen, this describes the norm in many PBP groups on Paizo.
-snip-In an effort to be part of the solution, I henceforth vow to post a miserly 3-4 sentences devoid of all the most necessary details, and to make those posts at a rate that is just this side of being dropped for non-participation!-snip-Believe it or not, from what I've seen, this describes the norm in many PBP groups on Paizo.
Sadly, Juliette is right. The shocking thing? Many GM's are not exempt from that standard...
I'm happy I have you guys...handpicked elites :)
To borrow a phrase, PbP is a marathon, not a sprint. We're off to the races now because it's still early, but the key is to get into a nice steady rhythm.
Juliette's game post caught me in mid-swallow with a mouthful of hot tea. I spurted hot tea through my nose, which was still tender and congested from the weekend's little bout with the crud. I nearly died trying to get air down one passage, hot tea down the other, and not get those crossed over, while more hot tea blasted forth from my abused nose.
Well done, Juliette, well done :p.
To borrow a phrase, PbP is a marathon, not a sprint. We're off to the races now because it's still early, but the key is to get into a nice steady rhythm.
And to hopefully not get caught on camera with a river of sh!t trailing down one or both legs...
Because, you know, that's the other notable aspect of marathons :D.
Juliette's game post caught me in mid-swallow with a mouthful of hot tea. I spurted hot tea through my nose, which was still tender and congested from the weekend's little bout with the crud. I nearly died trying to get air down one passage, hot tea down the other, and not get those crossed over, while more hot tea blasted forth from my abused nose.
Well done, Juliette, well done :p.
At least you can breathe through your nose now. :)
On the bright side she saved you alot of money Boros if TV Shop is any indicator :P
On the other hand I just realized they would probably have hounds and Miranda really really would like both Pass Without Trace and Disguise Self to poker her nose out.
Hmm ...
I have to sleep on this, don't want to be eaten just yet ...
I'm kind of where Lily is at. When I checked in today there were about 37 discussion and 17 gameplay (one of the them ended in 7 don't remember which) posts waiting. Honestly I just logged off. I just don't have the time to get through all the posts and then have time remaining for posts of my own. Even if I did have time, just keeping track of everything in the posts and responding in a meaningful way would require some sort of note taking system. By the time I get to the end of the new posts I don't even remember what the early several were about.
I'm certainly not criticizing anyone for actively participating and having a good time, which is what is happening, but this pace doesn't work for me. It may be true that much of the discussion postings could be ignored, but I can't choose to ignore them or not before I know what's in them. A lot of rules discussions and party action discussions are going on in very rapid and tight arcs that begin and end before I even know they are happening. I'm not rules parser, so I'm happy to skip discussions about how to squeeze an extra 2 hp regained within a 6 hour period and such, and I'm happy to shrug and leave that to others.
But, since those discussions also rely on my pc taking or not taking particular actions to make it work, and things are getting decided before I know they're being talked about, I'm left to either be a spoiler if I disagree, or botting along if I don't. So my posts can either try to touch on all the action that's taken place since my last, or I can just more or less play parallel to the continuity of the main narrative. The first is too much trouble, the second isn't much fun. It's fun to jump in and participate in a narrative stream, not so much when it's a fire hose.
One of the aspects of PbP I think hasn't developed very well here is the turn taking part. If PbP could be considered to be a form of collaborative writing, then there needs to be room for all the collaborators. That's usually done by cueing the other players. "Take action or say something, wait for response" is a baked in necessity. Go full bore and the others can catch up when it's convenient for them is not the same thing and doesn't produce the same results. I've been on the other side of things so I know what it's like to have much slower players in the game. In another PbP campaign I'm the most prolific poster (yeah, it's much slower paced) I also wait, sometimes longer than I'd like, but it's necessary.
So, maybe things will slow down with time, it's likely that they will. But I'm not going to demand it and if they don't I think it would be best for me to exit. If everyone else can sustain the pace and enjoys doing it then go for it! But it's won't be the game for me. My apologies if this post sounds preachy or offends, that's not my intention at all. I just want to lay out my perspective on proceedings and decide if this campaign is right for me or not without a long drawn out process where I was not upfront about why.
I fully understand what you mean Nissim, the posting rate and quality of the posts being done is intimidating, though not in a bad way, if that makes any sense. I honestly won't be able to keep up myself if this pace is continued at the end of next month.
Yeah, that's my fault. While it is entirely unintentional, I find myself perilously close to being the guy that sucks the fun out, for which I heartily apologize. I can only plead inexperience with the PbP format in my defense here.
Going to throttle back to a maximum of 2 posts a day, with the 2nd only after everyone else has posted at least once. I'm also going to trim them in size to about half of my most recent play post, not counting bluetext for details.
I am not at all asking for people to slow down. I'm saying that I won't be very capable of participating when things move at that speed. I just started that new job, and I spend roughly 12 hours a day away from home. That's if I don't do anything else. Throw in 8-10 hours of sleep, and what's left is the time I have for all of my posting.
Now, flip that around a bit... I used to be able to post several times a day from work. I used to be the most prolific poster in a game that averaged 120 posts per day. I am not, and will not ask you guys to slow down, because that game was, and remains my favorite game (though I am incredibly thankful it's paused and not adding to my flailing around.)
Just bear in mind that Lily really won't be able to react as much as her character should be interacting. It fits right now, as she's shell-shocked. And I can easily work with that. :)
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@Option B: I meant 'enforcing turn-based posting outside of combat'. If people were having to wait for me to post to be able to post, it'd drive me crazy. I have lots of anxiety and that would add so much to it.
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On the topic of 'most important details'... in my more recently made game (and in several other locations), I've made the point that less is more, at least to me. I am not a fan of Tolkien, as he's the sort of writer that can spend three pages describing a tea cup that serves no purpose in the story at all, except to have written about it. I do not care for that sort of writing. I feel it's an immense waste of time, but I also understand that I'm in the minority there. :)
I firmly believe that anyone can convey an idea in ten paragraphs, and a good writer will do a good job in that framework. But a great writer can convey an idea in ten sentences and do an equally good job.
You can certainly go too far with that, and go with ten words when everyone else is giving ten sentences (these are made up numbers, not a hard and fast rule.), which just feels... not particularly useful.
Hopefully, I haven't hurt any feelings there. :)
I, too, will be more selective in posting so as to avoid overwhelming this messageboard. I definitely understand why it would be a problem for Lily and Nissim, which is something that I didn't realize before - and for that, I am sorry. I'd agree that being concise is something that can both improve everyone's experience and improve the quality of posting. Hopefully we'll be able to move forward on that basis.
@all : concerning post amounts
I did mention it in another game. I have a 2-month old, started a new job myself recently, and should, technically, finish university(won't do this term).
All that aside, my available time is wildly fluctuating...some days, I may have several hours to devote to things, other days, I'll have to try and get an hour while utterly tired, before going to sleep.
On those days when I have time, such as was the case Sunday-Tuesday, I updated as often as seemed relevant, and encouraged chatter and casual asking in discussion.
I know that even if you "correct" the post count(e.g. 4 short posts by Miranda that could actually be one post with edit instead of posting anew, or 1-line answers by me about topics.) there's a massive amount of detail and volume here.
But ultimately, I feel that THAT is what makes a game alive, fun. As Juliette pointed out earlier, in many other games, very mechanic, very short posts are a regularity. Pure roll-playing. It can be fun, it has it's place, but it's not what I'm opting for, otherwise there'd have been no reason to flesh out your characters as you did.
As such, it is my job as a moderator to adjust the influx and flow of posts and story, respectively.
I would not want to miss out on the detail, verbosity, or quality of the posts provided. But mayhaps it makes sense to limit the speed of progression a bit(not as a courtesy to anybody specific, much more because I would not want people to get wrong expectations for the future). In the past few days, when I had time, I meant to provide things piecemeal, allow people to chime in, and move forward, but I understand that this can lead to an intimidating amount of posts for those who run into them all at once.
It is my first time as a pbp GM, and I have no idea if I'm doing a good job or a bad one, if I put too much detail on irrelevant matters or am not descriptive enough where it matters...wether I update too often in too small increments, or too often in too large ones...it's a learning process for me, too, but with the quality team I have with you guys, I am confident we can make things work out just fine.
I did state during recruitment that I fully expected that somebody would leave early. Either because they don't "feel" their character, because my style does not work for them, or because of real life. I am very glad that so far, neither of the first 2 points came up, and we avoided the 3rd one so far.
All that ranted and said, I would like to make a very simply suggestion...most of the time, I WILL only be able to make a single gameplay update per day, because I don't have the time and availability of mindset to do so in breaks, or without looking stuff up.
I still do like chatting in discussion, though, and I like that people respond quickly and are motivated to keep talking.
HOWEVER(and here's the suggestion), maybe for questions which are not relevant for others, we could use spoiler Tags in discussion...and for game-relevant discussion points that are not simply idle chatter and banter, we could use a boldened headline addressing the people for who it's relevant.
as simple as @all followed by text. In that case, it would be very easy to skim through discussion if we produce a lot of posts there. The fact I myself will not often be able to produce many gameplay updates will likely somewhat limit the output there, naturally. Regardless of the "turn-based"-stuff(which actually only means I wait up, for a maximum of 48 hours), one daily update was what I opted for when I run the recruitment, and what I considered realistically possible to maintain.
More than one gameplay update a day is, of course, still possible, but by no means meant to be standard. I could not fulfill that expectation myself-
Sorry for the wall of text, but I meant to be verbose to make sure I transmit my thoughts correctly so nobody misunderstands something.
In a month's time I will have nearly no time to post, unless it's from my tablet, as my nearly 4 year old daughter will be off from school for summer. Luckily this will only be for 3 weeks until her extended year begins, but I will be spending a lot of time making sure she doesn't get into too much trouble. I'll have at most a couple of hours at my computer on those days, which means that if I do have time to keep up my posts will likely be dry bones.
The extended school year will last until her birthday, at which point I will be at the same pace once again.
@Nissim: ONe thing that helps me is having two screens, which can also work with one... less well. I open a notepad and scroll through, responding to what I feel needs responses, and then trimming out things where they don't fit. Having your character as part of the narrative helps to pin down what happened in your head. Yesterday I was crazy pressed for time. Today... I don't have 140 posts to go through in 4 hours. :P
I'm also not asking anyone to slow down. If everyone is enjoying the game as it has been running then continue with it as things are. I don't want to game adjusted around my requirements.
I also do not want some turn taking rule for out of combat posts. That would be terrible. I'm talking about something more specific, which is continuing the plot with posts that require a response of some type from other characters, like a conversation or actions that involve the whole party, then carrying on with further posts that advance that before the involved characters have responded. In other words, feeding words or deeds to other characters whose players should be deciding what they do, in order to continue posting.
I've done all sorts of things that involved multiple posts before other players posted. I've carried on internal monologues, wandered around and done things, carried on conversations with NPCs that I've practically invented for the purpose, including providing their responses, and so forth, but always as fluff, not plot advancement.
I don't have an extra screen, but yes I could come up with a note taking system. I could also spend less time with my son, or switch to microwaving meals, or take the bus to work rather than bike so I could read and post while traveling, but I'm not going to. I'm not being snarky at all. I have other stuff going on. If this campaign is requiring an hour a day from me, that's too much and I'll withdraw. I'm not going to give it more because it then begins to impact my life elsewhere. I'm involved in 3 other PbP campaigns that take a maximum of 15 to 20 minutes a day, sometimes less but rarely more. An hour limit for this one seems very fair.
If everyone else wants to play a campaign that is faster and requires more, please do NOT try to adjust this one to my needs. If it exceeds what I'm willing to commit I'll withdraw, no hard feelings or tears or grudges at all. In fact, if you do want to play a fast game, I urge you all to. They are exceedingly rare to pull off, so if this one can work that way go for it. You might not see another chance.
I am sorry for being blunt, I tried to make this clear in a less direct way, but I'll state it directly:
What you are dealing with was a speedup.
What is happening is not a slow-down.
I believed I made it pretty clear that my OWN life, with fluctuating time availability, pretty much forces me to adhere to my own suggested posting frequency as GM. Today will be another busy day, and tomorrow I have to travel to corporate HQ in another city, which will ALSO be busy.
All these days, I MAY find the time for another post. But if not, then the "slow-down" is not happening because of any of you. If you feel thats happening and you need to withdraw because you ruin the experience for others, then you need to sit down and think about it.
I said, it's plenty possible we will speed up again at times, but it's no given.
Also, I did try and explain that I'm still learning the ropes as pbp GM. What I do know is that I NEED to advance things. If I let people eternally monologue, chat with NPC's, and do character exposition, then other players, who want to progress, will step in the background. Which is not a good thing to happen. pbp is slow as-is, and it will take a loooong time to go through an AP. Artificially slowing things down seems counterproductive. You will always have time for social aspects, fluffing and monologuing, you've had a longer break just now, too.
But at some time, I will move things forward.
Thats not cruel, thats not cutting short your character interactions, thats a necessity. Please do consider my position/try and understand that statement from my POV.
I'm fine with things. Got a little post happy, bringing it back to a reasonable level. I don't see that as a slow-down, but rather a return to the anticipated speed of posts.
I think people are a bit 'up in arms' over nothing... mostly just trying not to offend everyone else when no one is offended*. What's going on, is that Nissim and I have less time. We do not want the other characters to feel like they must slow down for our sake. I personally gain nothing from you guys slowing down, except that I play a larger role in the campaign. Which is cool. But by that same token, I think I'd be just as happy to read and not need to post in this one. That's not me saying I want to back out... but if push comes to shove, I'll be more than happy to take a back seat for a bit - it's my life that's the 'chore' after all. I do not foresee that happening at this time, though. :)
@Nissim: I don't mean 'take notes'. I mean to write your post as you read. I get if you don't want to do that, but from my perspective, it makes sense to interact with things 'as they happen'. When 35 posts go through... I totally will just wind up going with a 'character zoned out' or 'character did other thing then came back' post. It's just better to retroactively add something to make things make sense, since we can't foresee postsplosion. :)
@GM: I totally understand ebb and flow. I had had a very rough day.
The following day, I was not the slowest, and was actually swinging to other parts of the cell to help them get done faster. Same for today. In fact, today we met quota for the first time in over a month (on my fifth day there! Wooo!) That being said... I am exhausted.
*Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :)
Regarding certain other aspects brought up to me, I am aware of them and they are being adressed, once I have time.
Lily snuggles the pillow for several minutes, watching first the clean-up, then the tune-up that Boros performs on the Rebel, and then Miranda. The pair helped a lot more than they likely knew, distracting a pink-faced Lily, who did her best not to look directly at them as they flirted, from her darker thoughts. 'Love always finds a way... and even from the darkest of spaces, beauty can bloom.
So apparently Lily ships Boros and Miranda. That was quick. Maybe we could weaponize that by telling her that Barzillai has issued a proclamation against her OTP (One True Pairing), then just watch the carnage she causes :P.
:P
I guess Lily is a first girl wins type of person.
Pfft. You non-shelynites and your binary relationship dynamics. While -Lily- is monogamous, that doesn't mean she assumes Boros has to be. Especially given the fact his gun would get mighty jealous of Miranda...
Pfft. You non-shelynites and your binary relationship dynamics. While -Lily- is monogamous, that doesn't mean she assumes Boros has to be. Especially given the fact his gun would get mighty jealous of Miranda...
On Boros' behalf, I'll have you know that Gnoll Splasher isn't that kind of gun. Further, the relationship between Boros and his gun, while close, is purely professional... Even if Boros does get a little odd about caring for it on occasion.
So, got called into that carpet, and justifiably so, for some recent goofs on my part in the play thread. First off, apologies to those who had issue. Mordred named no names, so this is a blanket apology; if it applies to you, to ahead and have some. And to clarify, so you know that I'm aware of what I'm apologing for: I'm sorry for meta-gaming, for spotlight-hogging, for assuming actions of characters that weren't mine, for forcing actions of characters that weren't mine, and (I think this one applies) being a bit of an ass about posting before anyone else has a chance to respond to a previous post, let alone the latest one. If I missed anything, let me know, please.
With regards to the whole Healing thing, I'll start by saying that what I had intended and what actually resulted when I look over the posts I made are very different things.
Part of that was mental fuzziness from my weekend illness; I'm honestly surprised that what I wrote is even comprehensible. The other part was, as Mordred mentioned, a very bad instance of metagaming on my end. I took what was meant to be nothing more than idle number crunching, for the sake of discussion, and accepted that as the best way. I compounded that mistake by actually applying that player knowledge to the play thread, and then stepped into the sh!t just a bit deeper by not even consulting beforehand with those who this number crunching involved.
The intent was this: Boros doesn't know what sort of ability Varuzhan and Nissim have at healing, while he does know what he is capable of. As such, he would have handled the stuff that he feels he knows best--critical combat injuries (using the treat deadly wounds part of the Heal skill)--using their assistance as a way to gauge whether their actual skill matches their claims before getting himself taken care of by them in turn and checking out for the night. That would have left the rest to them, and Boros would sleep soundly knowing that when he wakes up, none of his new friends will have died overnight.
The result? Well, you all saw that. It may have been well-written and even generated some entertainment (Juliette's response is still getting a laugh every time I read it), but it was wrong. I've been trying hard to ease out that hole in way that doesn't completely derail or ignore what I screwed up, but I have no idea if that's working, or should even be attempted; might just be better to fade to black after a mutally-agreed upon set of happenings, and on to the next day.
I like to think that I don't make the same mistakes twice, and I'd certainly like to promise that it won't happen again, but my enthusiasm and inexperience with PbP means that it probably will at some point. If it does, you don't have to go Mordred with your complaints; feel free to jump on my ass with them, I won't take offense to justified issues with my posts. If the complaint is registered fast enough, I might even be able to edit my post to correct the problem.
Just to be clear on this: I made very sure to tell Boros that what I wrote was not meant as harsh criticism.
I talked and or PM'ed with one or more of you who felt it necessary that I do have a short talk with him.
Mostly because he's new to pbp and certain unspoken courtesy rules, and should be gently nudged into a direction in the things he mentioned already.
I told him he's free to post in discussion so the people who may have felt it necessary know we had a talk.
Mostly, again, I tried to explain, using examples from what happened, why other people were a bit unhappy with how things were handled. I was not pointing a finger and threatening wrath of god while laying down laws.
Only a...constructive review, should we call it?
I think it got across right and Boros has not taken offense, either(I hope, at least) :)
@All: I just came home from work, and will have my baby for the next 2-3 hours, but I'll try and update afterwards. What I would like to know is how you'll handle your rebel friend if he does not wake after the rest. Magical healing? His potion? Leave him in a bed, with Miranda's dress, and sneak out?
(Because it seems like several of you want him awake...if so, we can simply include expediture of relevant resources in the gameplay update and proceed with him waking up, instead of a round of IC discussion about what to do with him(I think you had plenty time for that, now), then actually discussing with him.)
Ah. I was wondering what all of that was about.
As an aside, though, ~10 posts per day in gameplay may be accurate... but if we combine gameplay and discussion, we're currently averaging ~35 posts a day. :P Not a complaint.
I vote that last one. With Miranda's dress.
Lily will likely try to help heal him once she has resources again... but I won't be home for more than 12 hours. Cause... job. She'll show preference to healing those who didn't kill her in her sleep, though, as she doesn't know what kind of person the guy she's waking up is.
I vote that last one. With Miranda's dress.
Throw your dress at someone *once* and then suddenly it's all people think about. Sigh :P
Yeah, but discussion is mostly optional - We banter here, throw one-liners around, and occasionaly become more serious. But mostly, it's fun here.
Aye, one vote for Miranda's dress, registered-
@healing: I'll just assume you'd be willing to spend one spell slot on the guy if needed, and however many you decide in 12 hours, on the others, then. Sound fine?(If no response now, we can retcon that decision)
Throw your dress at someone *once* and then suddenly it's all people think about. Sigh :P
That about matches my real-life experience regarding undressing and throwing clothes at people unexpectedly, both on acting and receiving end.
That being said; Miranda would also vote for that option assuming someone borrows her a coat or something. The look on our rescuee's face when he wakes up is worth one dress I think :P
That being said; Miranda would also vote for that option assuming someone borrows her a coat or something. The look on our rescuee's face when he wakes up is worth one dress I think :P
2 votes for leaving the guy with a small-sized dress in what he probably believes to be a girl school dormitory, with his last recollection being cornered by asmodean thugs in an alley.
That about matches my real-life experience regarding undressing and throwing clothes at people unexpectedly, both on acting and receiving end.
Well he did *ask* for it as a doctor. Can hardly say no to a doctor can you :P?
Also maybe we can booze up that Inquisitor the gnome mentioned and dump him drunk as a *something drunk* next to our guy?
I mean to help him piece together the narrative :P
So, if a person comes up to you claiming to be a doctor, you do as they say?
No need to check their credentials or anything? I mean, you do have an apothecary and a herbalist, there, but that dude? He's a soldier...
If Miranda is so obedient for people claiming to be medical experts, I will need to jot that down in my notes *evil grin* I know one medical expert who would be very interested in a Vivisectomy...
Well she had observed him trying to glue together our rebel friend for about an hour or so first, so that helped a little. ^^
Edit: Sorta 'medic's degree in practice'?
Edit: Or rather 'practical demonstration of medical degree'! Yeah that sounds better : )
That's some straight evil pranking you lot are plotting on poor Mr. Rebel there.
I vote for leaving him to wake with Miranda's underclothes clutched in hand and a note thanking him for a wonderful night, a heartfelt vow that 'she' won't breathe a word to her friends, and have it signed with a lipstick-aided kiss from a set of lips that not those of an adult human.
That'll bleach his hair white >:D.
Well she had observed him trying to glue together our rebel friend for about an hour or so first, so that helped a little. ^^
Edit: Sorta 'medic's degree in practice'?
Edit: Or rather 'practical demonstration of medical degree'! Yeah that sounds better : )
Still doesn't explain why the dress actually came off though...
He smiles at Miranda, a bit of nervousness evident in his demeanor. "I'll need ya to undress a bit. Nothin' much, just to get to yer injuries and such. Soldier's oath, I'll be keepin' my eyes and hands purely on business." Boros then turns his attention to Nissim while flexing his fingers to loosen them up. "Whenever yer ready, I'll get started.
That part really enticed my/Miranda's sense of "oh I know *exactly* how to make this uncomfortable!" :P
In Boros' defense, they're in a very pricey brothel were a 'doctor' examining a 'patient' is very much one the fantasies on offer, which he'd know, having patronized such places before.
He'd be a bit worried that a request to strip would be taken horribly wrong, because that's just how his day has gone so far :P.
And mission accomplished. Boros will have to repress those memories very thoroughly, lest they become a distraction at the wrong moment, lol.
That's some straight evil pranking you lot are plotting on poor Mr. Rebel there.
I vote for leaving him to wake with Miranda's underclothes clutched in hand and a note thanking him for a wonderful night, a heartfelt vow that 'she' won't breathe a word to her friends, and have it signed with a lipstick-aided kiss from a set of lips that not those of an adult
human.That'll bleach his hair white >:D.
True that. Seeing the teethmarks of Miranda's maw as a lipstick-signature will permanently scar him.
...one the fantasies on offer, which he'd know, having patronized such places before...
Such places, yes. If you mean to imply that using a sling to propel a stone at a can just about gives you a taste of what it's like to fire a high-calibered hand-cannon in a battle of life and death. ^_^
That part really enticed my/Miranda's sense of "oh I know *exactly* how to make this uncomfortable!" :P
Uncomfortable? Oh my, my real life-groups broke my innocence. I was just about ready to start a...er...sub-plot there, but I guess not.
*Puts the lotion back in the basket*(See, now THAT is uncomfortable(Just kidding)).
"Sub-plot"? That have to be Boros then :P
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On an completely different topic I think it may actually be most productive if we do heal the poor rebel guy instead of abusing him for our twisted pleasure. Probably. So with a heavy heart I'll change my vote to that^^
Alas, my baby daughter won't stand for me getting a break lasting longer than 2 or 3 minutes (and refuses to go to sleep). I'll need to postpone the update to tomorrow. I should have plenty time, going by train to the city with my corporate HQ.(and back in the evening).
Apologies.
That's fine. I'll wait to see what Nissim wants to do before finalizing my own post. But at the moment, leaning toward finishing up healing Miranda, then give over the kit to him for use on Boros. Or, if he makes it known that he needs rest for spells, letting Nissim sleep while Boros watches over patients until Varuzhan wakes up and can hopefully take over.
Don't give up hope Lily! Miranda is quite the Bend*. She'll make a Shorteyes* out of Boros yet. :)
*A bit of slang from the Kaer Maga Guide that I'm going to import because it can be used by us and is pretty funny.
Bend: A primarily human term for an attractive gnome or halfling, stemming from the fact that he or she is “worth bending down for.”
Shorteyes: A member of a human-sized race who prefers gnome or halfling lovers.
Early days Pathfinder was rather smuttier than it is now. :p
Nissim will need 9 hours total (8 hours rest and 1hour prep) to recover spells. What is our total expected time here before we get the curfew call?
If he can Nissim will rest. He's not much good otherwise. If it can't be done though hopefully it won't matter too much. I'd like to think the party will be moving from here to another safe location where they can figure out what they're going to do next.
Nissim can look to Boros's wounds and rest after that. If there isn't enough time for spell recovery the amount of rest won't really matter for him. If we have 10 hours or more he can do both.