Morning? It's 7:30pm silly!
Almost midnight: 11:40 pm for me.
10:39 AM.
I choose to believe the 4 or so points of damage Eben dealt with his fireworks are what put the big guy over the top.
I am SO glad I cast bull's strength.
Me too! Spiny's probably the most efficient use of the spell at the moment cause he gets the multiple attacks. Thank you, Gark :)
Those were definitely some nice rolls. :P
It took the better part of an hour but I got the loot sheet up to date.
We have a lot of stuff that needs to be IDed and appraised.
Sidenote—should I keep putting damage on the icon itself, or in a Comment? A comment might make it easier to read/update, and to see the image, but it might be trickier to interpret.
I concur, the icon digits are fine. (Unless it's really a pain for you, as the one doing the updating.)
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I pinged Farrukh on Steam. He’s going to post in a minute.
High five for communication!
So, what does 'Act Immediately' mean? We can take a full compliment of actions? Or would it be like a surprise round, where only a standard or move action is allowed?
I'll say it's like a readied action, so standard, move, charge, etc. It should never be quite as good as a Hero Point, after all.
In light of Astraden's post, am I correct in assuming that Farrukh's going to be okay either way.
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I think you guys can get up and threaten the archer, though. Their move hasn't actually happened yet so they're still just one square west of Farrukh.
Also we've got about four-five hours to post action-pointed actions before KC gets back on. Unless Farrukh doesn't post before then, in which case I guess we've got another 13 hours, or until his next post, whichever comes first.
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Is KC out until Thursday?
Edit: Four to Five hours. I read that as Forty Five hours.
I’m loath to spend my last action point here but I’ll do it if it’ll save Farrukh’s life.
KC, mentioned partial charge was an option. Would it be possible to partial charge down the cliff? I may go for the flying elbow drop after all. =P
All right, made my Will save (Action Point was required, but I made it). Debating on whether to ignore the archer and lay the beat down on Mr. Caster Guy or not. I AM a bit low on health.
You think you guys can get the archer?
The archer seems significantly less dangerous. Go for the caster.
Well, I can't see where he is on the map. He's dropped into the vicinity of the fire, so the web will just burn as soon as it lands near his spot.
Otherwise, yes. I wholly endorse the melee guys killing the caster first. The rest of us can deal with the archer.
Heh. You've been fine.
I'll let you know when you cross the line into problem territory.
Yeah, I'll be back proper in about 2.5 hours, if I'm lucky. My options are limited at the library (obviously, I've got no PDF here), but I'm here for the next thirty minutes.
Personally, Gark, I'm not bothered by the rules lawyering.
On a side note, did you guys see that coup de grace damage roll? Niiiice. ;P
I was really regretting one of my earlier posts when I saw that.
'For it is known that he giveth with one roll of the dice and with the other ruin thy day with a max-damage crit.'
Main change to the warpriest will apparently be that the BAB is no longer Good when you're wielding your favored weapon.
Yeah. I'm pretty unhappy about it. Even though it's mechanically inferior, I'd much rather give up Fervor and keep full BAB. If you don't mind, I might want a full rebuild when the book goes live.
How are you planning to rebuild Tanith?
I'm going to withhold judgment until the book comes out and I can see all the changes first hand. As I’ve said before, thematics are a big deal to me. I liked warpriest as a fighter with a few divine tricks. Paizo’s ‘design by committee’ has pushed the class into being a divine magus – something I’m decidedly not interested in.
I could see Tanith as some kind of chaotic paladin (if they still existed). Maybe there’s some good third party stuff that works for what I want.
*Sigh*
There goes my hopes of FINALLY being able to make a solid single classed (or almost single classed) full BaB "Monk".
-sigh- That's annoying as hell. I'm also playing a warpriest currently and the only good thing about him is the full BAB. He's bow-based, so the cleric buffs available from Fervor aren't very useful to him. The blessings have been completely and utterly useless so far as well.
Way to shoehorn the class into only being able to do one thing Paizo. Warpriest now = melee guy with self buffs.
I like how we're all unhappy about the change for different reasons.
I've been looking around and I'm having no luck. Has no 3rd party dev written a chaotic paladin?
The closest I've ever seen was the holy liberator prestige class.
Well, you COULD still just run Tanith as a pre-official warpriest... just a suggestion.
Antipaladin?
:P
There's the 3.5 Unearthed Arcana "Paladin of Freedom". Maybe somebody converted that?
That's up to KC.
Paladin of Freedom was cool. I'll look around.
You could play a Cavalier (or Samurai, Sword Saint if you don't want the Mount) who takes the Chevalier PRC.
The closest I've ever seen was the holy liberator prestige class.
Well, you COULD still just run Tanith as a pre-official warpriest... just a suggestion.
I actually kind of agree with Paizo that the warpriest was overpowered as-is, but if he can't find an alternative that works, I'm willing to allow him to keep playing the original warpriest. Perhaps reducing the spells per day would balance things out alright while not interfering with Tanith's flavor? I don't know, I'm not too good at rules stuff (in case y'all ain't noticed. :P).
That's up to KC.
Paladin of Freedom was cool. I'll look around.
Oh, so Unearthed Arcana's Whirling Frenzy barbarian was OP, but the Paladin of Freedom is a-ok.
;D
The Warpriest wasn't OP as-is for the simple fact that you couldn't afford the stats to make full use of its strengths, which toned it down considerably.
Now it's lost one of its strengths, but (presumably, considering how adamantly against making him less MAD JB was during the playtest) not the thing that made it so hard to take full advantage of them.
I had a hard time getting a Monk-ish Warpriest to work properly on a 25 PB (though to be fair, much of that may have been my absolute unwillingness to dump Int), people playing 15-20 are gonna be in a world of hurt.
I'll agree that warpriest was overpowered (quite a few of the hybrid classes are) but Ferver is to blame. Anything that lets you break the action economy is going to play havoc with balance.
I don’t terribly like cavalier/samurai either (beyond the flavor concerns). ‘I murder one guy really hard’ class features are another big design no-no in my book.
Well, I can see a warpriest of Gorum wielding a greatsword being extremely overpowered with full BAB. Especially past 5th level or so. Magic vestment up, then in a fight swift divine favor, divine power etc.
But a ranged warpriest or finesse warpriest or something, not so much. All the blessings (for Erastil at least) seemed to be totally melee focused.
I had a hard time getting a Monk-ish Warpriest to work properly on a 25 PB (though to be fair, much of that may have been my absolute unwillingness to dump Int), people playing 15-20 are gonna be in a world of hurt.
/shrug
Seems to work fine for me.
It sounded like Fervor was pretty important for the warpriest not swinging in the opposite direction, but Tanith can choose to give it up if he wants. At least, give up the Swift Spell part of it.
I had a hard time getting a Monk-ish Warpriest to work properly on a 25 PB (though to be fair, much of that may have been my absolute unwillingness to dump Int), people playing 15-20 are gonna be in a world of hurt./shrug
Seems to work fine for me.
You're benefiting from the full BaB still, remember? And have not one, but TWO dump stats.
You said you had a hard time making it work with your 25 point buy. I assume your warpriest had full bab too right? I seem to be making it work just fine with 20.
Tanith only has one dump stat. In the land of optimization, is a 10 a dump stat?