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Somewhere in the morass of trip preparations and friends' shitty broadband connections, this happened.
Still traveling; this is the first good four-hour block of computer time I've had so far. And apparently with Boingo, you need a four-hour block just to make a few forum posts . . .
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Somewhere in the morass of trip preparations and friends' s!!$ty broadband connections, this happened.
Still traveling; this is the first good four-hour block of computer time I've had so far. And apparently with Boingo, you need a four-hour block just to make a few forum posts . . .
Oops this was the thing, I mean. Ominous foreshadowing!
:P
I may be getting soft, but Round 1 is no place for death.
You may still be screwed, of course. We'll find out very soon. But it'll be Round 2, and therefore I need feel no guilt whatsoever.
So, Rodrigo, can you summon something bigger to bust up the froghemoth?
An army of tigers!
Alternatively something that could dump penalties on it would be good.
Regarding that--should I keep bombarding it with Frost Bombs and pray for a Stagger or try to dispel whatever enhancements Frogzilla here has?
Tigers are verboten, sorry. Otherwise i would subject it to 1d3+1 of them. I think my beefiest thing otherwise would be a dire lion iirc. Afk right bow, I'll check in a bit.
Are we aware of all relevant froghemoth info or did we not get high enough of a dungeoneering check?
Sorry, you only know what's been posted. A 24 Knowledge check is only enough for basic identification.
Derp...was thinking of my real life game summoner I guess. My bad. Meh...no clue what to summon then. Nothing that will be useful at all...yay.
Sorry if I'm getting snarky, CR +5 encounters with all our buffs and spell slots getting wasted first makes me cranky.
There's a couple things that you could summon that would huge if we'd landed the dungeoneering check. =(
Looks like we're doing things the hard way.
Upon pondering further I think it's worth Astraden trying to use a heal scroll on Farrukh (assuming we're planning on NPCing her this turn). It puts her in danger but it gives him and the rest of us by extension the best chance to survive the next turn or two. Freedom of movement doesn't do anything to help him this turn and channel doesn't do enough should he be swallowed this turn.
Note that, to minimize AoOs, she can use the scroll, hold the charge, and then still administer it as a Free action after moving,
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Upon pondering further I think it's worth Astraden trying to use a heal scroll on Farrukh (assuming we're planning on NPCing her this turn). It puts her in danger but it gives him and the rest of us by extension the best chance to survive the next turn or two. Freedom of movement doesn't do anything to help him this turn and channel doesn't do enough should he be swallowed this turn.
. . . guys, you do realize I list prepared spells in my profile, right? You've been discussing this for like a whole day and I never even had freedom of movement prepared. (Figured dismissal would've been better against a salamander.)
I blame Farrukh. He brought it up first!
Astraden likely has both scrolls of heal since she's the only one that can read them.
So, should I try to dispel the froghemoth's enhancements (whatever the hell they are) or keep trying for a Stagger?
Upon pondering further I think it's worth Astraden trying to use a heal scroll on Farrukh (assuming we're planning on NPCing her this turn). It puts her in danger but it gives him and the rest of us by extension the best chance to survive the next turn or two. Freedom of movement doesn't do anything to help him this turn and channel doesn't do enough should he be swallowed this turn.. . . guys, you do realize I list prepared spells in my profile, right? You've been discussing this for like a whole day and I never even had freedom of movement prepared. (Figured dismissal would've been better against a salamander.)
Didn't we establish before we started that this (imaginary) Salamander was not an extraplanar creature?
So, should I try to dispel the froghemoth's enhancements (whatever the hell they are) or keep trying for a Stagger?
Stagger.
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Didn't we establish before we started that this (imaginary) Salamander was not an extraplanar creature?Upon pondering further I think it's worth Astraden trying to use a heal scroll on Farrukh (assuming we're planning on NPCing her this turn). It puts her in danger but it gives him and the rest of us by extension the best chance to survive the next turn or two. Freedom of movement doesn't do anything to help him this turn and channel doesn't do enough should he be swallowed this turn.. . . guys, you do realize I list prepared spells in my profile, right? You've been discussing this for like a whole day and I never even had freedom of movement prepared. (Figured dismissal would've been better against a salamander.)
My spell preparations occurred before I knew it was not an outsider. I didn't have a chance to edit the preparations in response to KC's post before combat started, so I've been assuming Astraden just misinterpreted the guards - after all, it is pretty strange to use a chilled crate for containing a cold monster rather than a hot/living one.
Well, if all else fails, you can still convert dismissal to a cure spell. :)
It's times like these that I wish I have Fast Bombs...
You'll have them this level or next level?
Next level I'll qualify for them. I'll even be able to take Extra Discovery to get Force Bombs. :)
She'll qualify next level.
Next level I'll qualify for them. I'll even be able to take Extra Discovery to get Force Bombs. :)
I played with an alchemist once who had those and he was very, very disappointed in their damage. Maybe go for good bombs? Does that exist? I know evil bombs exist, they are nice.
Next level I'll qualify for them. I'll even be able to take Extra Discovery to get Force Bombs. :)I played with an alchemist once who had those and he was very, very disappointed in their damage. Maybe go for good bombs? Does that exist? I know evil bombs exist, they are nice.
Several Fireballs a round is nothing to sneeze at.
The trick to Fast Bombs novaing is realizing that both Rapid Shot and Two-Weapon Fighting apply.
Especially true for the status effect Bombs.
Consider 5 Dispel checks per round, or 5 saves vs Stagger.
But yeah, Holy Bombs exist. As do Axiomatic and Anarchic Bombs.
So, should I pick Holy Bombs instead of Force Bombs for my Extra Discovery?
I meant force bombs Farrukh. Fast bombs is awesome.
Edit: Our group's alchemist alternates between stink bombs (awesome) and evil bombs with targeted bomb admixture (also awesome).
Depends on your preference.
Holy Bombs:
+Bypass elemental resistances
+Stagger enemies (potentially)
-Half damage to Neutral foes (and no Stagger)
-No damage to Good foes
Force Bombs:
+Bypass elemental resistance
+Full damage to Incorporeal creatures
+Knock enemies prone on failed Reflex save (more likely for an enemy to fail save than the Fort save for Holy Bombs)
-Drop damage dice to d4's (-1 damage per die)
I would go Force.
Holy Bombs:
+Bypass elemental resistances
+Stagger enemies (potentially)
-Half damage to Neutral foes (and no Stagger)
-No damage to Good foesForce Bombs:
+Bypass elemental resistance
+Full damage to Incorporeal creatures
+Knock enemies prone on failed Reflex save (more likely for an enemy to fail save than the Fort save for Holy Bombs)
-Drop damage dice to d4's (-1 damage per die)I would go Force.
Yeah, that was my train of thought as well. Sure, Force Bombs don't do as much damage as Fire Bombs or Frost Bombs, but they're more or less guaranteed to inflict damage on targets unless they have some way of protecting themselves from Force damage.
Exactly. You can use normal Bombs when you're damaging most things and switch to Force whenever they don't work. Mid full attack even, I believe.
Holy mother of pearl, I picked the wrong day to work on my Minecraft server.
Okay, good, I was expecting an argument.
after all, it is pretty strange to use a chilled crate for containing a cold monster rather than a hot/living one.
The coldness was more for the monster's health than its containment. Temperatures that cold would probably kill most fire elemental creatures.
I don't suppose that bite hit an image?
Nvm. The AoO killed the image. =(
We're doomed, aren't we?
Maybe it'll roll a natural 1 on that fort save.
On the bright side, Astraden isn't dead, near as I can tell. Unless she took damage earlier and I didn't notice?
I think I'm gonna give the Froghemoth the jackhammer from the inside. It's both easier to hit and does less damage while I'm in here.
I told you you'd take less damage staying in the grapple.
I think we need to go nuts with the damage this round. If we don't kill it this turn people start dying.
On the bright side, had it not been for the image, Astraden would be very close to dead. Two rounds from it, in fact.
EDIT: Ninja'd.
Well, I've done all the damage I can do this round. Up to you guys now.
Technically, you haven't—your turn hasn't come up this round yet.
*Pushes Scotch tape'd glasses up bridge of nose*
Have we narrowed down it's AC? Did Farrukh's flatfooted 23 hit? What about Tanith's 25?
I'm trying to determine if it's better to continue the flurrying or go for the two handed power attack.
Neither attack hit.
Well, an 18 was good enough to hit its Touch AC...
Oh good. Insane damage and solid AC. =/
Well, an 18 was good enough to hit its Touch AC...
No bomb-fists here.
I know... :(
Suggestions? Given the damage Farrukh took being swallowed, I'm going to say I die instantly if I go down the throat.
My current inclination is to try and Escape Artist my way out, hopefully with a +10 if Rodrigo greases me. That plus an action point and a potential use of gallant inspiration might be enough to un-tongue me and get out of chomping range.
My guess is you're looking at a CMD 50ish and all the escape artist does is remove you from the grapple. You're still a viable victim for the full attack next turn.
My suggestion is grab that sword with an action point and go to town. Also, pray.
If I get out I'm not going to stand there; my move action would be putting 50 feet between me and her mouth.