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As far as wealth distribution goes, the way I usually handle it is just giving the larger share of the hard cash to any party member who didn't get many of the items.
Holy s@~& 1/month wish haha.
I know right and it's an SLA so no diamond needed.. And he's my loyal pet as well so no backstabby wishness that demons usually give u..
Wow fiendish servant is 100% better than a paladin's mount ability. I mean I just looked at some of the summon monster creatures and it simply can't compare. Apparently it pays to be evil.
First of all, my condolences on your girlfriend's loss.
But hey, whoa whoa!
I was like, 1 post on gameplay thread and 16 on discussion? What the f$~& happened?!?
Awesomely written wrap up Omen, and congratulations everyone!
We really made a mess!
Oh, and thanks for the title Vlad, I'll live up to it!
Argan the Black Mantis Assassin!!! MUA HA HA HA!! I don't even know what class will Argan be next level...
I have a lot of questions about loot and plot and level, but that will have to wait (it seems we're not in hurry anyway) since I'm overly busy.
Please tell me, do Triadora knows what happened to Goodie and our stuff?
Well that was an interesting read. Still mad about no mithral breastplate Argan?
Oh that's right, Goodie!
So this is basically what happened. Goodie poisoned the entire pot of stew for the garrison, but Mama G came in and bumped into the pot, spilling the whole pot and dousing Goodie. Well being doused in it caused some swallowing of it, and by the end of the night she was being badly effected by the poison. Unconscious but not dead, she was there and able to find if you asked Mama G where she was.
Now should I pick up the feat combat reflexes or should I pick up extra rage power and get witch hunter?
EDIT: Wow Goodie done in by some stew. Maybe poison just isn't our thing.
I'm going to wreck Talingarde apart in search of my previous armor! *wicked smile*
Speaking of which, are you turning into anything unhuman, Kharn?
Then, is Goodie dead?
Well I had originally just had her taken out of the game and able to retrieve if the player came back, but with her not returning to us let's just say the bugbear horde didn't recognize the poor old woman as a member of the ninth. Rest in pieces Goodie...
I don't think so, but I might find something that I'll try to become later on.
EDIT: WAIT WHAT ABOUT SIR REGINOLD!
If you all decide to keep me as a DM I'll hunt it down and give you the specs.
I'll take some liberties here.
Yes, I think we're all pretty satisfied with your GMing skill. You're awesome. So, I believe I speak for all of us when I say that we would like to keep you as the GM.
BUT, you've explained your reasons and we understand it's getting tough for you to do it, since you're a player and will still face the same challenges we will. We know it was a hard path and you used a lot of your time guiding us through the adventure, so, if you don't want to run it, or don't think you can, please, just say it, and we will look after some GM, or one of us can GM it as a last resource.
Otherwise we shall continue when you are available, and maybe recruit a new arcane member? (or do you think that's unnecessary, folks?)
While we are powerful, having an arcane caster is a must so i must insist we replace Goodie..
As far as GM goes I agree with Argan, you've done a fine job in helping us finish book one and it wouldn't hurt my feelings if you continued to GM book 2 for us, but i understand where your coming from in not wanting too.. That said if you think your going to be limited in the time/effort that you can put into this game then i might be a good idea for us to look elsewhere.. I dont wanna see this stall out and disappear like so many do..
Having a full arcane caster would be a good idea.
I would want an arcane full caster in the group.
I am personally fine with Omen continuing to DM but if he doesn't want to then I don't have any ill will since he did pick this up for us after Yodler disappeared. If we have to we can recruit another DM willing to run this for us.
Level 5 I get another language to use in combat thanks to Tongues curse. Abyssal, Aklo, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Ignan, or Terran. Was thinking Celestial or Abyssal. If any of you don't have Infernal, now's the chance to grab it.
Greater Drow Nobility gives me lots of cool stuff. Which makes me want to create an item. Basically a light proof (thus darkness proof) housing which can opened and shuttered with ease, blocking or releasing the dreaded Deeper Darkness. Levitate at Will and Feather fall yay. Lucky I still had that 1 feather fall left during the battle or I'd be dead. Now I will never run out. Thanks to the discover that Feather Fall is 1 medium target PER LEVEL none of you guys should have to be in danger of falling damage if you're near me and I have an immediate action.
Second level spell I'm thinking- Lesser Restoration or Align Weapon or Desecrate... Sanctuary for first? I'm not sure.
And I'm heading towards becoming a Lich eventually hopefully.
I would suggest Lesser Restoration for your second level spell and inflict light wounds for your 1st level spell since with you and Vlad becoming undead you will want some way to heal both of yourselves. Also for the language I suggest Celestial since archons will probably speak that more often than Abyssal.
It's a while yet before I can get Lich. Level 11 is the earliest. But sure ILW for Fletch since i think he is a baby vamp now.
Also Vlad should have died in the battle. Would have been the perfect time for him to come back as a vampire.
For 1st level I would select Inflict Light or Bless..
For 2nd there are several good options.. Hold Person and Sound Burst are both nice offensive options. Lesser Resto, Grace, and the Stat bump spells are nice defensive ones..
And naw I become a baby vamp at 7th, but neg energy has always healed me.. I become a full vampire at 11th..
For this level I think im going to choose a Fiendish Dire Bat as my companion.. Having a flight ability would be nice.. Thoughts?
Flying is nice, but if you can pick up that dretch the stinking cloud ability is simply nasty (as you all know).
It hits you too though and if the dam thing gets killed i take a -1 hit/dam for 30 days..
Edit: Dam i was using Archives of Nethys.. The OGC has a Nosoi Psychopomp listed.. That things is way better..
Matches the theme... A vampire with a dire bat... nothing will be as fitting as that.
Argan has no idea on what to get at 5th level... At 6th Imma try to go for the Crimson Assassin, but the first level has BAB 0. If I get a rogue level on the 5th (which also has BAB 0) I would be a sixth level character with BAB +3 (although with +4d6 sneak). That's harsh. Plus, I would only get my secondary attacks at level 9...
Thus, whether I convince our beloved GM to allow me to take the Crimson Assassin at level 5 (since all I lack is the skill points from level 5), or I take a level of something with BAB full on the 5th, be it Fighter, Barbarian, Ranger or whatever... What do you think would be a good option?
I told you to take 3 levels of weapon master, but nooooo.. For a level dip i would suggest Fighter for the feat, or Ranger for Human Favored Enemy.. A dip into Barb could be decent as well.. Rage a few rounds and that d12 HD..
And yea a dire bat works fluff wise, but so does a Nosoi.. Seekers of the dead and talkers to them.. Although it would hate me once i was pure undead, but by then i would have another companion..
Go with fractional bab. So if rogue 6 gets a bab, rouge 5 +(any 3/4 bab class) also gets a bab. I'm not the GM but it certainly makes sense. 3/4 bab class with 3/4 bab PRC. I suggest the same for base saves progression.
If you didn't drastically need the extra feat Ranger would prob be your best bet.. Gain the auto use of all ranger spell wands and FE HUman will go along dam ways in this campaign.. Nice skills to boot..
Go with fractional bab. So if rogue 6 gets a bab, rouge 5 +(any 3/4 bab class) also gets a bab. I'm not the GM but it certainly makes sense. 3/4 bab class with 3/4 bab PRC. I suggest the same for base saves progression.
That is indeed a nice option, maintains me at the rogue without losing my skill point progression, but it does not depend on me.
I told you to take 3 levels of weapon master, but nooooo..
If I did that I would be so powerful that I was afraid you were going to cry helplessly, so I choose to avoid it... I cannot bear to see my minion crying...
Oh I forgot to level.
Really quick montage sequence!
Level 5 Barbarian
BAB +1
skills (4 +2 AP +1 auto appraise)
Appraise +1
Perception +1
Sense Motive +1
K. Nobility +2
Stealth +2
FC: Superstition +1/3
Feat: Extra Rage Power
Rage Power: Witch Hunter
Also, why is weapon master considered so powerful?
Sorry Argan, part of the drawback of gaining the versatility and power of prestiging is often losing some BaB and having your saves junked up. We will go with RAW on this one.
ROFL..... And then you woke up from the dream..
Back you reality.. Omen I have a request..
The Fiendish Companion lets you select something from Summon Monster 3 atm, and on the OGC website it meantions the Nosoi as an option, which is availiable to spellcasters with Imp Familiar, along with alot more CR 2 outsider. My question is would it be alright to select a different CR 2 outsider as my companion as the Nosoi doesn't match my alignment? I wanted to pick up an Imp..
For a 3 level dip it gets you alot.. 2 feats, Weapon training 1 which when combined with gloves of dueling gets you +3 hit/dam.. In my level 20 barbarian build I go Barb(Invul Rager) 17/Fighter(Weapon Master) 3..
Give me links please, although having the same type of creature with the same CR sounds pretty reasonable and I will probably say yes. Just let me glance over the specifics.
One more question from me. Does being born in Talingarde count as being of northern human descent? Just asking because of the Furious Guardian Prestige class.
I would say yes since Kharn is pretty cold based already.
Here's the List from the OGC The Nosoi is listed under the Sum III alternate options.. It goes on to explain that alternate options are allowed through some AP or scenerio in which the different summons are allowed.. So it sounds to me like it only happens when the Campaign allows for it or GM allows it.. I can't imagine in this particular campaign he would be denied an Imp, seeing as he works for the Prince of Hell and all.. Your call though..
Go with fractional bab. So if rogue 6 gets a bab, rouge 5 +(any 3/4 bab class) also gets a bab. I'm not the GM but it certainly makes sense. 3/4 bab class with 3/4 bab PRC.
Have you said no to this option or take the Crimsom Assassin at level 5 already? Or both?
No to both. Stick with RAW.
You're still with us, then? Or are you just closing the bar with everyone outside and ready to go to work? ^_^
Well my group would need to finish the second book before moving on, but yes I can stick with you. We're pretty far in right now, although since I don't have the book I'm not sure how far.
Imp Fiendish Boon?
I meant the links for all of the things you were discussing please. I want to compare.
Where it explains Fiendish Boon
Where it explains the alternate summons
Im not sure whatelse you wanna see..
Apparently in AP44 the PC's were givine access to summon Nosoi Physcopomps, which is a CR 2 creature that can be taken as a faimliar with the improved familiar feat..
My question was if it was allowed to be summoned with Sum Monster 3 in a specific AP then could I summon an Imp, which is also CR 2, with Sum Mon 3 in this AP seeing how it's all Devil themed..
So, for Argan 5th level I have the following options:
- Rogue (with the BAB problem but strong sneak)
- Fighter Lore warden (for the extra skill points)
- Fighter Unbreakable (nothing more fitting after the last encounter)
- Fighter (for the extra feat)
- Bloodrager (for fast movement, rage and bloodline power infernal or arcane)
- Ranger (for skills and favored enemy humans)
- Slayer (for skills and favored target)
Opinions?
Slayer isn't an option as one of its base classes is rogue..
For just a 1 level dip I think your gonna be hard pressed to beat the Ranger.. Here's why..
FE-Humans will go farther in this campaign by itself than anything of the other classes listed.. Just the hit/dam part of it would be worth it not to mention the skill boosts you get..
Ability to use Ranger spell list wands with no role.. Alot of good stuff there.. For example:
1st-Lead Blades, Longstrider, Cure lt, Resist Energy
2nd-Barkskin, Stat Bump Spells, Percieve Cues, Pro Energy
You get the picture..
Lastly they get good skil points and fill out some of the ones you dont have as class skills..
My 2 cents anyways..
Well, thanks for your 2 cents. The wand using is not much of a deal, since I could maximize my ability to use a wand within a few levels, but the favored enemy is indeed the nice thing to get from the ranger. The only extra skill I want from the ranger is Survival, which I'll suck anyway since I have a negative wisdom.
They are going to remove the limitation and I could get the slayer, but I don't think it would be worth it for a single level. Since I'm planning for a crimsom assassin at the 6th level it's really only one level.
Anyway, the Bloodrager is also awesome. I get +10ft movement, 6 rounds of fury/day and the infernal bloodline that lets me use Hellfire in my attacks, increasing my damage by 1d6 for 3 rounds a day. It's something occasional, but when I flank it will be nice. Or I could go with Arcana bloodline... Anyway, two nice options, along with the fighter and its bonus feat...
Does anyone else wants to add their 2 cents to the pot?
I suggest ranger as well since FE applies to many things besides just attack and damage. Also, Hellfire increases your damage by 1d6 fire (most commonly resisted or immune element) for 3 rounds per day. A FE increases you damage by +2 for all time versus chosen creature type.
Ok ok let's go with that...
- 5th level: Ranger 1
- Ok I give up. 52 HP total.
- Favored Class Bonus: none
- Skill points: (6 class + 1 Int + 2 extra) = 9
- +1 on Bluff (5rk)
- +1 on intimidate (5rk)
- +1 on Survival (1rk)
- +1 on Stealth (5rk)
- +1 on Perception (5rk)
- +1 on Acrobatics (5rk)
- +1 on Sense Motive (5rk)
- +1 on K.Geography (1rk)
- +1 on K.Nature (1rk)
- BAB +1 (+4)
- Saves: +2 Fort; +2 Reflex
- 5th level feat: Double Slice
- Class Ability: favored enemy (humans), track, wild empathy;
^ what the f?
lol them rolls