Yep, I'm happy as I am. I can lift heavier loads, run faster and longer then I have been able to before. I don't slouch now. Things I've never dared to try because of fear of failure (like rock climbing), I've done.
And healthy food doesn't need to be bland and tasteless. Tried toasted bean curd with Thai sweet chilli sauce yet? =)
I think I'd just go for steamed chickpeas dashed with black pepper and curry powder. Carrots I can actually just eat as they are. Celery sticks though..eh no thanks.
Hummus is fine, but you need to watch what oils and how much are used. Though I've been guilty of spreading pizza dough with garlic oil.
I’ve been mostly vegetarian for a long time - seems to have helped my health even if I don’t exercise enough.
Ah OK - thought you bought it off the shelf. Vegetarian stuff, assuming you don't indulge in too many fried items, or load up on grains excessively, are high in fibre so it helps keep you full. Protein is a little problem though since few items (like soya beans) are a complete protein. Chickpeas you need to mix and match with wheat or rice.
The last time I went lacto vegetarian I gained weight but again I was using the amount of physical activity I was doing to give myself an excuse to eat more white rice. Which is not good.
So sorry for the delay - my outlook was crashing a lot and I was told my IT department to move some folders to other places to make it more stable, and moving those folders locked up my outlook for hours. I tried to do other things, but it seemed to make my outlook threaten to crash, so I stopped.
Sorry about divine favor, we can say I used a charge of extend if you want. We had one left if I wan not mistaken.
At the Singapore orchid show today, intermittent posting!
You're not in Singapore, are you, Grenwold?
Also I don't allow retcons of that nature, since you declared the number of rounds on the divine favour so you already had made the decision. Not that it makes any difference in this case.
I'm also rather busy tomorrow so I don't intend to be posting much. I have a number of things to do in RL and not enough time.
Aye, I wasn’t asking for a retcon. It was more of a punishment for my mistake. You could use a charge and say that it was expired, for fairness.
No, there’s an exhibition inspired by Gardens by the Bay at the NY Botanical Garden. I think they may have shipped some over too, since we go every year and there are some new ones here.
They also partnered with the Singapore Botanical garden National orchid Garden, apparently.
Because when I typed manacles, this is one of the images that showed up
The definition of manacle:
confine (a person or part of the body) with manacles.
It does not say which part. And I will tell you that hauling your sorry arse up the stairs while in a dress which restricts your leg movement definitely slows you down - it's like climbing stairs wearing resistance bands around your thighs/knees. Doing rough terrain with feet in manacles, I imagine would be a royal pain.
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I was busy playing with my new toys, AIA vitality.
You see there's a monthly fee of $8, but you can get $5 of grocery vouchers every week at bronze tier. Get to platinium tier and its $10 every week.
All you need to do is clock 250 points per week.
To clock 100 points:
60 minutes at average of 300 calories /hour
60 mins physical activity with 300 kcals burned (at a rate of at least 300kcal/hr)
So that's pretty easy, one body combat session. The only problematic part is having to stick your phone in your pocket cos it's uncomfortable.
You can get 50 points per day for walking 10,000 steps, but since it's not stackable and you can only get 100 points per day, I don't bother.
So yeah I'm using Samsung health App to sync to AIA vitality to get more grocery vouchers, while I'm exercising. The experimentation took a while so I went silent here.
Then there's a go take a physical fitness assessment for 1500 points at Fitness first. Trying to book an appointment slot on the 15th April, I wonder how I'll do. I suppose I make a passable runner(but I s*ck at sprinting) and I Still can't do a pull up =(
I can plank for 2 min straight, but I haven't done sit ups in a while.
That's really cool, I like the gamification of exercise and stuff. It's a good way to have reminders.
Also, there are so many earth themed creatures in this adventure creatures that it is crazy!
Just generally busy with RL today. Baking and all that.
Anyway this part will likely take longer since there's going to be a lot of dialogue in this. That's why I haven't been posting that much because of all the details it takes to paint the scene.
Actually this whole sequence is to be done via verbal duels rules. Now I'm wondering if I should require all of you to read the document or just auto tabulate it myself. It's not as if you have much other skills other then diplo to use anyway and if others other then Nigel are participating, the group determination will be an average of the participants, rather then Nigel alone.
Group vote on if you'd just like me to auto tabulate it(Nigel will be continually using diplo on rhetoric and flattery) or you want to get into the details of it.
Father Noelan will not participate since it means the GM has to write more dialogue.
And since it has already started, you may not retcon buffs.
It seems pretty complicated, and Gren's skills aren't amazing, so if Nigel wants to do it solo, I'd say go for him alone.
Regarding auto-tabulating, it would be interesting to go through the process, but I prefer whatever is easier for you.
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Ah, sub-systems :-/
Unfortunately, my new Cohort was supposed to take some of the load for things like this (since I had noticed that basically the only 'face' skill the party had was my Diplomacy, and I figured we needed some diversity)...
It sounds like we will be at a significant disadvantage for this, further so if anyone other than me does anything (which is unfortunate).
That said, I don't know what arguments we will be able to present beyond what I have already said - I kind of led with everything that we had...
Basically for auto tabulation, all participants need to do is to dialogue and roll diplo, or whatever skills that are applicable(I will give you the list).
If non auto tabulation, then participants need to state which verbal tactics they are using, dialogue following that verbal tactic, then roll the relevant skills. I expect you to read the document beforehand and roll whatever relevant skill necessary in this case.
I need to know if you're doing it as a group or just Nigel alone for the purposes of calculating the determination. If Nigel is doing it solo then there will be no aid another's from the party, since if you want the benefit, you must bear the burden(determination score calculated from participants).
Also if Nibbitz and the other refugees are with the party or not because there will be differences in dialogue. I have already stated my reasoning for why I saw things as they are.
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Well, reading through the rules, it appears that we would be *significantly* penalized if we just used Diplomacy, so I guess that we will have to do out best to diversify.
Fortunately, looking at the various options, it appears that we can cover Diplomacy, Knowledge(various), Linguistics, and Sense Motive (the last by Gren), so although the situation isn't great, at least we are not utterly screwed before we even start.
It's a either they're all with you or they're all not with you. I can understand that the hobgoblin would be with you since you'd have every reason to keep him in your sights day and night.
Also state how many people in the party are participating so I can calculate party determination. For various knowledges it can only be rolled if explicitly stated under the verbal tactic, or it relates to what the dialogue is about. I.e knowledge engineering when talking about the state of the walls.
Like you wouldn't be able to roll knowledge arcana when talking about how the walls are not properly maintained.
Also buffing at this point of time will incur unwanted attention since you're spellcasting in the middle of a crowded town hall in full view of other muggles.
OK. Since there is a whole load of dialogue that I need to work out, I don't intend to deal with it until tonight when I get back home since I have a lot of things to do and places to rush to today.
Yeah, they’re all with us. There is significant urgency from our character’s perspective, so we want to deal with the discussion ASAP.
It sounds like Nigel wants me to help, with some of my skills? If so, it sounds good to me. The responses may take a little longer to respond with if we go in that direction, as I don’t want to boff up my response as a player.
According to the verbal duel rules, magical buffs are frowned upon anyway.
That post, by the way, took like 1 h 20 min to formulate, so I wouldn't get the necessary concentration if I were doing it on the subway or on the move.
Thank you because I have been having some rather busy and crappy work weeks(like having lots of things to do, IT issues), so I don't really want to formulate a post just to get it crash on me and lose everything.
So I have to rightfully tell you of delays while I mull over the replies and give you a proper one. Else I wouldn't be doing my job, either.
Also I've been on 5h+ sleep per day for the last 3 days. I really need to make an effort to sleep earlier but meh, too many things to do.
Looks good, I assume that the duels take place in turns, right?
So do I go after the response from the mayor? Or does Nigel keep doing it? Nigel, you didn't really respond up here. Do you want to do it or do you want me to assist you?
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After rechecking the section on multiple participants in Verbal Duels (right at the end), paradoxically, I think it would be a bad idea for you to help, Gren... since if there is more than one participant, each time a participant speaks (beyond the first time), they suffer a cumulative -2 penalty on their checks, regardless of whether or not they use the same skill.
So basically, you either have one person do all the talking, or have a large group, where everyone contributes.
Just having two or three speakers is actually quite bad...
Thanks for the update, I appreciate you letting me know. I think it’s important that we coordinate so that we can be as effective as possible.
Since I am not doing anything else, I thought I’d mention that some people in my other game are insisting that inspire courage is mind-affecting, but not language dependent, as discussed here.
A closer reading indicates that only suggestion and mass suggestion are language-dependent. Take a look and let me know if their argument is fallacious.
Each bardic performance has audible components, visual components, or both.
If a bardic performance has audible components, the targets must be able to hear the bard for the performance to have any effect, and such performances are language dependent.
Inspire Courage (Su): A 1st-level bard can use his performance to inspire courage in his allies (including himself), bolstering them against fear and improving their combat abilities. To be affected, an ally must be able to perceive the bard's performance. An affected ally receives a +1 morale bonus on saving throws against charm and fear effects and a +1 competence bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls. At 5th level, and every six bard levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +1, to a maximum of +4 at 17th level. Inspire courage is a mind-affecting ability. Inspire courage can use audible or visual components.
Archive of nethys said that so I'm not looking any further.
Use the visual components mode for inspire courage and I won't be bothering about language dependent.
I generally do not question the rules - I just see them carried out.
I think Sanity rules are more complicated to be honest then verbal duels.
I do appreciate your sympathy. Players always wonder why I am not pushing plot/posting and if you've been tracking me I still maintain some board presence.
The issue is that answering to a long post requires a long span of concentration which I do not get if my computer is constantly giving problems or if I'm travelling, where I have to get out and transit to the next station. Its easy to free spam, less so to talk on a specific topic with specific requirements.
I would be a poor GM if I just rolled dice without actually saying something that has to do with your arguments and following the description of the verbal tactic I am using. And if I were really going to do that a half arsed job, I rather not do it at all.
Actually, the text from pfsrd conflicts with archives of nethys. In addition, the text of the actual player’s handbook (unless it has been errata’d since mine was printed) matches pfsrd, and conflicts with archives of nethys.
See here.
“If a bardic performance has audible components, the targets must be able to hear the bard for the performance to have any effect, and many such performances are language dependent (as noted in the description). A deaf bard has a 20% chance to fail when attempting to use a bardic performance with an audible component. If he fails this check, the attempt still counts against his daily limit. Deaf creatures are immune to bardic performances with audible components.
If a bardic performance has a visual component, the targets must have line of sight to the bard for the performance to have any effect. A blind bard has a 50% chance to fail when attempting to use a bardic performance with a visual component. If he fails this check, the attempt still counts against his daily limit. Blind creatures are immune to bardic performances with visual components.”
There appears to be a significant inconsistency across the different system reference documents. I was not lying or making this up...
Archive of nethys is considered to be the more accurate source compared to d20pfsrd. Most VCs(mine included) will let you get away with using archive of nethys but not d20pfsrd. If there is a conflict between archive of nethys wording and d20pfsrd, archive of nethys takes precedence.
Archive of nethys is now official reference for pathfinder
If archive of nethys has nothing to say on the subject, I am happy to take up what d20pfsrd gives.
I don't have any hard cover copy rulebooks(updated with errata or otherwise) so I'll just take what the official reference for pathfinder (archive of nethys) gives.
The way I see it is that archetypes that can only use audiable components for their inspire courage are already stealing the bard's thunder while getting benefits of their class(like evangelist clerics have full 9th level casting). They do not need to have the full version of the bard's inspire courage that can affect all, including summons. Why would anyone roll a bard, a 6th level caster when you can have the benefits of one on a 9th level divine caster?
So I am actually happy that those archetypes that can only use audiable components for inspire courage are bound by language dependent.
I am aware of the nature of archives of nethys as a standard.
You are entitled to interpret the rules in whatever manner you like. But if we were playing in a PFS game together in person, and you told me that I couldn’t reference a rulebook that I owned, and instead must rely on what was online, I would ask for clarification after the game from the VC. After all, my book in person (as a customer of Paizo) should generally take precedent over an internet reference, except insofar as the book can be outdated (which mine may well be).
Bare minimum, someone should address the discrepancy. I will be doing research tonight and contacting the guy at AON about why theirs is different from all other sources. I can’t be the only person who has noticed this.
As a side note, I don’t really know what the issue with archetypes has to do with this? Perhaps you can explain your logic? If you’d like to, and have time. I know you’ve been busy recently. The original time it came up was in discussion regarding the choice of a bard as my cohort, I believe. Not an alternative archetype that does a similar thing.
Go ahead and contact the guy updating Archive of Nethys. Up to date information is always good. But since I know nothing on that subject – I am not going to bother about it – since I always want my facts in order before I start presenting arguments.
And at the end of the day, this is a game. It is not an obligation for me to buy anything other then the AP from Paizo to run a game – the PDF version of the CRB costs US$ 9.99. Especially since the rules can be found online on archive of nethys. So if you wanted to convince me, bring me the pdf/image of the page involved, with all the errata – I think they’re up to the fifth reprinting now, Nigel would know better. He’s got more money then I do to spend on this hobby anyway.
If you’re using a bard as your cohort, then we don’t even need to have this conversation – your inspire courage can be in visual form, and I will say it affects animal companions since all they need to do is to see you. So why am I even wasting time arguing on rules that at the end of the day, don’t matter?
If I wanted to have rules arguments I’d pop into the rules forums and watch flame wars.
About archetypes - this is all my opinion.
It is in players nature to cherry pick all the options that gives the greatest benefit. And honestly I share Nigel’s opinion on bards – only if you have a fifth party member then you should get a bard. You’ll want to cover melee, face, arcane caster, divine caster, range and disabling traps(maybe – there’s always summon monster). In a small party, a bard partially covers arcane and face and either range/melee. This could be better used in getting an evangelist cleric which could cover arcane, face(at a pinch due to cleric poor skill points), and possibly range. So since the slot could be better used for something else (like I view rogues are waste of party space).
So by using a archetype, you get the bard’s best ability (inspire courage), and another class that can cover more roles. I don’t find that bards are totally hopeless(unlike rogues), but I feel its not fair to them that they get their best class feature “stolen” by other classes so to speak. Many people play a bard just to give the party inspire courage buff. But why do so when there are other classes that can use inspire courage that bring more to a table?
Indeed, I was merely pointing out the discrepancy most recently.
I had considered the matter closed otherwise, as is the case with all of your house rules, rulings, and answers that I've had to questions. There would be no need to revisit them had I not uncovered that *someone* is wrong. You should not care about it any more, either way, as it does not matter, as you said, and it isn't worth the time for us to discuss it.
I think you're right regarding archetypes. The evangelist is kind of badly designed in that way. I do think the bard adds a bit more than you might, but it does seem to have been designed as a 5th wheel style dude, to its detriment.
Edit: Turns out that this was errata'd as of the 6th printing (the most recent one, as of May 2013) to use the "some performances" (pfsrd's) language. Verified on my digital copy of the core rulebook that I picked up in a humble bundle, which matches my physical one. So I definitely have to contact the AoN guy. A lot of people are likely running things incorrectly due to AoN being out-of-date.
Edit 2: Looks like the "Legacy SRD" is also correct, which is run by Archives of Nethys, so that's pretty weird that they conflict.
Note that you have already ruled otherwise, I'm just mentioning it for informational purposes (especially for Nigel), and consider the matter closed.
Doing gear, very complicated, sorry that it's taking a while. Mort, how does enchanting existing gear, such as my rock crystal morningstar, work? Is finding an enchanter like purchasing one? That's really the only thing I *really* want to enchant - but I'd like to if I can for sentimental reasons.
I'm almost done with a cohort, sorry for the delay with that too. I've been working on it for weeks but only recently found something I like.
For reference, how would it work if my cohort had craft wondrous item? Could they have crafted their wondrous items, and therefore gotten a discount, or would it benefit us in the future instead?
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@Gren: Enchanting a non-magical item takes 'standard' crafting times - so to make your weapon +1, you would need to give it to them for two days.
However, once it is *is* magical, Mort allows the use of 'upgrade dust' to instantaneously 'add' to the existing enchantment.
Re: Retroactive crafting, generally, if you have the feat, you can have used it to make your existing equipment.
You can always use masterwork transformation to make it masterwork then use upgrade dust to fix it.
And Nigel is right re equipment. Please get a portable alchemist laboratory if you want to get crafting done while you travel and go as per crafting rules of reduced number of hours for working, and no, keep watch cannot be used for crafting.
Anyway my weekends I rather not PBP that much since I have a whole load of things I need to do, like prepare pizza rations for an entire week.
/rock climbing/swimming/running with BF. I still have a date loaf to bake eventually. Then there's all that assorted family things like cleaning up my brother's fish tank filter etc.