Here Be Tryants: A Kingmaker saga.

Game Master Joy

Greetings all. I am planning to run the variant of Kingmaker for those of a less goodly bent.
So welcome to my recruitment thread for Tyrantmaker.

Guidelines for Character Creation are:
- 25 point buy
- No Good alignment allowed
- Max hp at first level
- Classes allowed: All Paizo approved.
- Races allowed: Core races will get preference, but all may apply
- Starting Wealth: Max
- Traits: 3 total, one must be a campaign trait
- No 3rd party material allowed

Other things to note:

Your characters are supposed to be building a kingdom together, so your character should be able to get along with the rest of you party to accomplish the goals set for the group.

I am altering the Bastard campaign trait and allowing anything half human to take it.

I would like for anyone interested to be able to post at least once a day.

I will likely keep this recruitment open for a weeks time, though if I get a lot of interest I may close it a day or two early.

dotting for interest.

Question: I'm running Kingmaker, but it's set in Shenmen all the way over in Tian Xia. Does that disqualify me from submitting a character? I've changed quite a bit for my game, so I doubt it'll be anything like yours.

if it doesn't, I was thinking of a human antipaladin, cavalier or samurai with a desire to set up a bastion of evil. He doesn't want to rule, he's more of a power behind the throne/sword of the king kind of guy. I was also thinking of a debuffing/undead-focused cleric.

dot. This seems really fun..

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Hmm. I'm already in another Kingmaker game, so, probably shouldn't apply, but this would be a hilarious campaign for a party of casual necromancers seeking to create their own rather evil kingdom.

I made a ranger. ^_^

Dotting for Urgathoean cleric

Just had to tweak a bit at the start but I am ready

Dot!

dotting

Dotting this for sure!

Got a swashbuckling brigand duelist for you. Equipment and back-story to come.

would you allow a LE antipaladin

First, let me add that my posting times will be mostly between 9 am and 9pm eastern standard time.

Next in regards to anyone who has played or run a Kingmaker game or variant before, you can still apply.

I have decided to amend my original post on the classes allowed. I had neglected to state that I would prefer no eastern concepts since I would prefer the PCs be native to the area.

For AntiPaladins, they would be my last choice over any other class to take. Their Smite Good ability would not get much use and I definitely would not allow more than one CE person in the party.

For alignment change, no. I will not change the alignment requirement of classes. Though if you are interested, you may later on take the LE HellKnight Prestige class and re-skin it to fit the kingdom that you are forming.

Going to try an archetype I've liked the look of since the APG came out: The sanctified slayer (inquisitor).

Thinking a Norgorber worshipper, kind of a spy/assassin type

First, let me add that my posting times will be mostly between 9 am and 9pm eastern standard time.

Next in regards to anyone who has played or run a Kingmaker game or variant before, you can still apply.

I have decided to amend my original post on the classes allowed. I had neglected to state that I would prefer no eastern concepts since I would prefer the PCs be native to the area.

For AntiPaladins, they would be my last choice over any other class to take. Their Smite Good ability would not get much use and I definitely would not allow more than one CE person in the party.

For alignment change, no. I will not change the alignment requirement of classes. Though if you are interested, you may later on take the LE HellKnight Prestige class and re-skin it to fit the kingdom that you are forming.

Is a cavalier (beast rider) permissible?

Dot!!

Dotting, hoping to submit an Elemental or one of the genie elemental bloodline sorcerer with the Tattoed Sorcerer archetype.

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Very interested. It's been a while since I was involved in a game where the PCs were a less than reputable lot.

@The Winds of Fate: Any idea on how many characters you intend to take into the game?

First thought that comes to mind is a Human Wizard (Conjuration) with the intent to move into the Diabolist prestige class.

Cavalier is fine. Beastrider is okay too, though you will have to ignore most of the list of mounts. There will be no dinosaurs in the Stolen Lands for example, that is just too comedic a concept. I'd only allow a mount that is native to this land or at least the surrounding lands. You would also be allowed to pick a juvenile something that can reach its adulthood when you hit 7th level. We'd have to add a few things to the mount list.

Cavalier is fine. Beastrider is okay too, though you will have to ignore most of the list of mounts. There will be no dinosaurs in the Stolen Lands for example, that is just too comedic a concept. I'd only allow a mount that is native to this land or at least the surrounding lands. You would also be allowed to pick a juvenile something that can reach its adulthood when you hit 7th level. We'd have to add a few things to the mount list.

I' agree, I prefer to avoid small cavaliers doe the same reason. I understand why they're possible, but I keep imagining Sir Diddymus from Labyrinth. Then I laugh. I was thinking of human cavalier with a horse to start, and then upgrading to like a dire wolf, or whatever the options are at 4th and 7th level. I've never done a cavalier, and I think I think it could be neat. I'll roll one up to day for your reading pleasure.

Drawbacks?

For group awareness, I'm making an alchemist.

I will allow one drawback per character.

Fey-taken would be rather interesting. Just maybe not in a good way.

For small cavaliers, I also envision either Sir Diddymus or the wolf riders from Elf Quest. Either are hard for me to take seriously.

Cavalier is fine. Beastrider is okay too, though you will have to ignore most of the list of mounts. There will be no dinosaurs in the Stolen Lands for example, that is just too comedic a concept. I'd only allow a mount that is native to this land or at least the surrounding lands. You would also be allowed to pick a juvenile something that can reach its adulthood when you hit 7th level. We'd have to add a few things to the mount list.

I'm not super familiar with a animals that would be native to the Stolen Lands. I'm thinking about making a Divine Huntmaster Inquisitor of Ghlaunder, but a strong parasite requires a strong host. I was thinking hopefully Rhino, or if not that ape or big cat for an animal companion. Would any of those be acceptable?

Dotting, will post a character later.

Are Gunslingers a thing? I'd like to submit a tiefling pistolero.

What is your stance on re-training?

In the build that I intend to submit, I will be taking Augmented Summoning as a feat early on. If I progress to my intended prestige class, Augmented Summoning is a granted class feature.

Maybe some kind of cleric for me, even evil people need healing!

One hundred percent interested. I'm thinking of a lawful evil (arrogant and self serving, not Stabby McKill evil) duelist type character, probably an Aldori Swordlord fighter wih the accompanying prestige class with amatuer swashbuckler and extra panache for a good parry/riposte mechanic.

He wouldn't be a ruler himself, but more like the chief enforcer for the ruler. He'd probably have his own small contingent of soldiers to carry out the rulers dark biddings.

For my part i'm cooking up an Asmodeous War Priest. Defiantly going down the Lawful Evil 'unholy knight' kinda vibe.

I won't take any major assumptions as to what role he'd play in the kingdom, but at this point it's looking to be the High Priest, General or Marshal roles.

Applying with Lord Ira Bramwell. If he gets picked, I'll update the sheet to conform with the character creation rules (basically add one trait and give him a 25-pt buy).

He's a manipulator wizard who lost all his family money and now wants to reestablish himself in the nobility. I'm thinking true Neutral; he's selfish, greedy and classist, and wouldn't mind working with evil characters (though he'll probably convince himself that he's morally superior to these people who dirty their own hands—but hey, he can still use them to his advantage!).

Talomyr - I would like to take 5 players, possibly 6 if I can't narrow it down to 5.
Also, there should be enough down time that I would allow retraining.

Dotting with an LE wizard concept.

My tiefling pistolero has his left hand cut off, and has a buckler strapped to the stump. He uses his prehensile tail to help him reload. He also has a second mouth on the right side of his neck. He used to be a detective, but compromised a job and was fired. He worked solo for awhile, but ended up taking clients in the wrong crowds, and got engulfed into mob life. He could be a drifter from riddleport, coming into town before it all begins to stir, as hired muscle.

This is bare bones lol. I'm basically rambling to you.

Dotting for interest. All kinds of interesting thoughts. Druid or monk most likely, although I will probably switch my ideas a half dozen times before settling on something.

I've sold myself on a LE Human Aldori Swordlord fighter archetype who goes into Slashing Grace and Amateur Swashbuckler-Opportune Parry and Riposte. I may or may not take the Duelist prestige class at level 6.

His name shall be Garrick Wildmane.

That Other Guy - I'm preferring all PCs be natives of the area and have a reason for taking the charter. Also your talk of detectives and mobs seems more Noir than Medieval to me and not really fitting the theme.

Also, it would be helpful if PC's gave a couple of choices for what their roles in the Kingdom would be.

I will be submitting a LE bard of one of the noble houses. Almost certainly a worshiper of Abadar and interested in taming the wild lands and bringing order to this filthy chaos.

I could totally see a "Littlefinger" style treasurer worshiping Abadar.

Also, as a reminder, Neutral aligned gods are fine to take for Evil characters as long as it is on your axis.

To my hopefully-future GM, I have this question.

How do you feel about me using this trait to gain proficiency with an Aldori Dueling Sword, so as to help qualify for Slashing Grace?

My plan has slightly changed for my character. I'm thinking of making a LE Human Swashbuckler who uses an Aldori Dueling Sword that she took when she murdered her father. She'll also use an Aldori Dueling Cape and use a lot of feinting, dirty tricks, and disarm maneuvers.

The Swordlord class is good, but I feel like not being one fits in with her backstory of being naturally skilled in combat, and arrogantly aware of it so that she became to lazy to learn the discipline it took to become one. Instead, she fights with her natural skill (swashbuckler) and killed her father in an argument about it. Now, she uses his sword as a sign that her skill was better than his hard work, and that she was always the superior.

So many Ideas...

Arcansist- Based off Kefka, CE (note, not chaotic stupid.. *shudder*)

Two weapon warrior/slayer- NN, Bounty hunter/Merc just doing his job

Zen archer monk- A monk that has taken a turn down aggressive negations on putting his views towards other. LN or LE, not sure yet. Basically he wants to bring discipline and order to the chaotic lands.

and last but not least

Daring Champion Cavalier- NN/NE Wants power, prestige, wealth, women and land. Order of the cockatrice.

Going the Ruler or General route. If your going to be a swaggering prideful duelist might as well go full tilt, all hail the bandit king.

Here's one that would fit this hilariously well!

Falthariox the Reborn (Fal, for short) is a LE cross-blooded kobold sorcerer who believes he is a reincarnated red dragon. He belongs to a tribe that lives on the edge of the Stolen Lands. He believes he should start exercising dominion over them and figures that with the new settlers looking to inhabit the place, he has prime opportunity to get himself a capable group of "loyal minions and subjects."

He is generally selfish, self-entitled, and vain, and demands that if anyone wants his help, he needs promises of loyalty, treasure, and offerings (preferably anything shiny, but not everyone can afford such luxuries, so he'll take what he can get). However, he is also bound to his word and if he promises aid, they'll get it, and he is protective of his "dominion" and its residents. They are, after all, his loyal subjects and slaves.

Odds are, he'd probably be the resident magic enforcer, possible scholar, and treasurer (after all, it's HIS treasure, why shouldn't he look after it?) for the kingdom.

Are Aasimar/Teiflings with a rolled variant ability okay? (I realize core races are preferred, but just in case someone wants to apply with one of these?)

I'm very interested in this game

Working on an Arcanist or Investigator of as of yet undecided race. They guy would be a LE/LN worshipper of the Infernal Duke Mammon, the Argent Prince.
The guy would be a watch/toy maker who is used to cater to the rich and powerful and now wants a chance to become rich and powerful himself.

Most fitting kingdom role would be Treasurer or Spymaster, though he could become a Magister or even Grand Diplomat if needed. He'd prefer one of the first two though.

-Fal, for the game you would still need to be a race that would be given a charter.

Or at least anyone who wanted to submit a monstrous race would have to be attached to another character who would be given the charter.

And given your description of the kobold, he doesn't sound as if anyone would want to keep him around. Or that he would become a comic relief character and I try to avoid those.

-Steven_Evil, you may take Heirloom Weapon trait for any non-masterwork simple or martial weapon that you want. Though it only gives you martial proficiency with that specific weapon. You would still need to take Exotic Weapon proficiency to use a dueling sword as anything other than a longsword.

-Aptinuviel, Aasimar/Teiflings are acceptable and their variant abilities may be rolled out in this thread.

-Aptinuviel, Aasimar/Teiflings are acceptable and their variant abilities may be rolled out in this thread.

Sounds good. I'll probably be making a human, but I figured this would get asked and wanted to make sure!

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Thinking Lawful Evil priestess of Asmodeus. Definitely looking at High Priestess, possibly charismatic enough to take on other roles, if needed.

I haven't completely thought out a background yet, but I know I wanted something to do with banditry...possibly bounty hunting. Maybe both. lol