Grimm Tales

Game Master Red Velvet Tiger

A dark fairytale-based campaign where heroes stand against The Five, a coven of five evil witches whose sinister schemes threaten the known world.


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I think your point buy is off anyway Doc. I have you at 22 pts for the off-stats. Besides that, I had assumed you couldn't further dump your foible stat, though I was perhaps mistaken in that regard. Still, you could stand to shave your Wis down to 16, Dex to 10, and then bump Con to 12. Or, you know, shave more off Wis & Cha to get yourself some real Con and Dex.


Monkeygod wrote:
I was asking, because out of all of them, it seems one of the weakest for the PC. Granting others wishes is powerful, sure, but it seems like it doesn't benefit the PC as much as say, any non artifact magic item, or a companion or always getting a natural 20 after three tries(Which could be strong in the right hands and situation).

Reposting in case it was missed.


Attempt #2 at a Tale Feat.:

The Hopeful: In a world where witches have the run of things, children get kidnapped right and left, entire families get killed for little reason, burning forests illuminate the night sky, and madmen treat the innocent as mere guinea pigs, it can be a little hard to keep your chin up. But don't worry, because I'm here for you. We don't have time to wallow in sadness, the world needs us. Now c'mon, get up. Let's try it again together.

Benefit: Gain an aura of Heroism: Greater for rounds/level.

Penalty: Always give an enemy a second chance, cannot perform Coup De Grace.


I think my stats are correct.

Str 8(foible)
Dex 12
Con 11
Int 18(focus)
Wis 16
Cha 14

So, I spent 10 on Wis, 5 on Cha, 2 on Dex, and 1 on Con.

-3 Physical/+2 Mental for Old Age. +2 to Dex from being human.


Ah, old age! I forgot that was a thing. You win.


I'm not to certain any of those Tales Feats really fots the idea I was going for. Originally this was something I brainstormed. Thoughts?

Tales Feat:
Earn your Happy Ending
Some people get the world handed to them on a silver platter. Princes in their Ivory Towers, well off Kids with 2 loving parents. Others get their hard knocks, but do little to earn their new life. Red haired Orphan Girls swept off to mansions and the like. Then there's some who have it taken by force. Those who have their life ripped away, and nothing will stop you from rebuilding it from the ashes.

Benefit:Gain the resolve class feature

Penalty: Work with the GM and choose a faction. When facing something affiliated with this faction you are consumed with a fiery hate, causing a -2 to AC, a -2 to hit, and you cannot resist killing them (no non-lethal). You will never view them as anything higher than Hostile and are unwilling (not allowed) to make any sort of Diplomacy or Heal check towards them. Can be resisted with a DC 20 +1/2 Character Level Will Save.


@Eli: Does "forest tramp" count as a faction?

Cuz if so, that kinda sucks for me and Emmie.

@Cake, I want to fight all five, but really delve into each world and fight one at a time.


Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:

@Eli: Does "forest tramp" count as a faction?

Cuz if so, that kinda sucks for me and Emmie.

Uhhh...no it's not mean to be a broad thing. More like "Forces of X Witch" or "Kingdom Y" so you two are safe unless I guess I said Fey or something, although Fey is also a really broad statement so it'd have to be more narrow, like "Fey of the Emerald Forest" or something.


Did I hear "PvP"?
Summon all the spiders!


Alright! Just checking. ^_^


Spidre wrote:

Did I hear "PvP"?

Summon all the spiders!

ALL OF THEM!

Also cats. Because cats are good and cool.

I feel like you're a more effective summoner than an actual Summoner. You should work towards the Augment Summoning feat so that your spiders are truly a force to be reckoned with.

@ Doc, it should be only -2 physical.


Actually, if you check my profile, you'll see I already have Augment Summoning. :)

RVT:
Say RVT, seeing as how you seem pretty couth about rules-slinging, is it cool if my summon spells summon spiders of the same CR as other things that I can summon? Mostly I'd hate to only be able to summon spiders for 2nd-level spells, and have to summon rats and elementals around that.
I figured you'd be cool with it, but better to ask now than later.


So, like, apparently Google did a Pokemon challenge that would allow people to be hired by Google where you would travel around the world and catch pokemon, which is purty cool and all, but... the challenge ended 7 days ago! If I had just learned about it, I coulda landed a job at Google before finishing high school! ;_;

Also, Spidre, your character reminds me of a Gremlin (homebrew Goblin variation) Witch I came up with named Graziggi. He was totally adorable and his familiar was a mangy cat named Cat.

I thought he was adorable, anyways.


There's a barbarian in a RoW game I'm in who's got a weasel pet named "Weasel".


The difference being that Graziggi has 18 intelligence, he's just incredibly childlike. Also he's neutral good rather than chaotic evil because he was bullied his entire life by the other Gremlins.

If you can't tell, he's one of my favorite characters.


He sounds deliciously fragile.


Yeah, I saw that the spider familiar was a scarlet spider and I was like, "That seems like a good name."
But you probably meant my own name...


Spidre wrote:

Yeah, I saw that the spider familiar was a scarlet spider and I was like, "That seems like a good name."

But you probably meant my own name...

No, it's mostly just the fact you're a Witch, and I felt like gushing about the single most adorable little monster I've ever come up with.

You could display your full title in your name if you want to make it more interesting.


Witches can be pretty great. They are thematically my favorite class.

Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
You could display your full title in your name if you want to make it more interesting.

Already have 10 posts though.


Though I'd be happy to take only a -2 physical, I'm pretty sure it stacks, so middle age is -1/+1, old is -3/+2, and venerable is -6/+3.

Also Ms. Spidey should be able to use spiders at all levels because she's the Spider Woman.

Or maybe be psychic/psionic, to really confuse people.


Yeah, thematically and mechanically they're my third-favorite class (tied with the Alchemist) behind the Summoner and the Goodfellow.

It sucks that you have 10 posts already.

What was your title, again? Mistress of the Spiders or something similar?

You sound like you could have been one of the Five - but then, I don't think there's a queen of spiders in any fairy tale.

@Doc: Nope, it's -1/+1, -2/+2, and -3/+3. That way the character doesn't get much weaker as time goes on.


Does anyone else besides Emmie feel like being associated with me before the beginning of the story?


Good lord, what happened in this thread? There's been almost 200 replies today!

Something I've been thinking about as this has progressed that might be worth considering:

When RVT first pitched this game the idea was that we would be playing in a rather oppressed/oppressive setting kinda like ravenloft with a less 'gothic' and more 'fairy tale' theme to it's horror.

The intended party seemed to be (fairly) ordinary people (with the exception of monkeygod's fae character).

Looking at things now, we have quite a few completed submissions that would probably have townsfolk going for torches and pitchforks.

Please don't take this as a personal criticism. I'm just concerned about losing the intended themes of the story under the flood of intersting-but-strange character concepts.

It might be a good thing if the inhuman characters tried to include some way of at least passing for human when needed. Hats of Disguise are pretty cheap and could be re-flavored as just about anything.


Still working on the sheet. Gonna a lot of it tomorrow, since I have a day off to do it.

Basic concept is that he's the third son of the Lady of Mirrors, having unearthly good looks and charm from his mom, but largely raised by courtiers and tutors, so her madness didn't rub off on him or his brothers. He IS vain and pompous, but more in a naive and adorkable way than cruel and malicious. His brothers have gone on a quest, and both have disappeared. In true fairy tale tradition, it now falls to Valemon to succeed where his older brothers failed.


Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
Does anyone else besides Emmie feel like being associated with me before the beginning of the story?

We should probably wait until the final party is selected before we tie characters together. It's easier for the GM to choose if characters aren't being submitted as a package deal.


@Royce: I can always pass for a (very strange) child, but I'm none too sure about Xerxes. Maybe a hat of disguise to make him appear as a mastiff? Thanks for pointing that out though, we were definitely starting to lose sight of the original intent among all the pure, unadulterated awesome.

Poor Emmie might have to stay on the outskirts of the town, though, since apparently even people with deformities were regarded as demons or witches back in the fairy-tale days.

Speaking of which, Royce, you're almost certainly going to be called a demon child at some point or another. Good boys should be out playing tag or with their mothers, not orphaned and creepy. Really, all of us will probably be cast out of town, except for Eli and Doc, and MAYBE Neils.


Doomed Hero wrote:
Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
Does anyone else besides Emmie feel like being associated with me before the beginning of the story?
We should probably wait until the final party is selected before we tie characters together. It's easier for the GM to choose if characters aren't being submitted as a package deal.

Well, nothing ESSENTIAL, just a "we have met before" type dealie.

Dark Archive

When will recruitment close?


Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
What was your title, again? Mistress of the Spiders or something similar?

Mistress of the Many Legs

Royce the Orphan wrote:

When RVT first pitched this game the idea was that we would be playing in a rather oppressed/oppressive setting kinda like ravenloft with a less 'gothic' and more 'fairy tale' theme to it's horror.

The intended party seemed to be (fairly) ordinary people (with the exception of monkeygod's fae character).

Looking at things now, we have quite a few completed submissions that would probably have townsfolk going for torches and pitchforks.

I had rather noticed that.

Step 1: read instuctions--only humans allowed, +1 pre-determined fey.
Step 2: read thread--nobody is a human.


Rajon wrote:
When will recruitment close?

Sunday at noon


Spidre wrote:
Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
What was your title, again? Mistress of the Spiders or something similar?

Mistress of the Many Legs

Royce the Orphan wrote:

When RVT first pitched this game the idea was that we would be playing in a rather oppressed/oppressive setting kinda like ravenloft with a less 'gothic' and more 'fairy tale' theme to it's horror.

The intended party seemed to be (fairly) ordinary people (with the exception of monkeygod's fae character).

Looking at things now, we have quite a few completed submissions that would probably have townsfolk going for torches and pitchforks.

I had rather noticed that.

Step 1: read instuctions--only humans allowed, +1 pre-determined fey.
Step 2: read thread--nobody is a human.

Hey - I didn't start this! Emmie did! *points accusingly at everyone else*


To be fair, I asked the DM about a backstory, and she offered the idea of a caliban to me. I saw the potential for a much more in-depth backstory, so I took it.


Emmeline wrote:
To be fair, I asked the DM about a backstory, and she offered the idea of a caliban to me. I saw the potential for a much more in-depth backstory, so I took it.

and mine would make absolutely no sense if I weren't a Gnome. Well, MAYBE if I were a Halfling, but still, they look similar and Gnomes are better, so.


Royce the Orphan wrote:

Good lord, what happened in this thread? There's been almost 200 replies today!

Something I've been thinking about as this has progressed that might be worth considering:

When RVT first pitched this game the idea was that we would be playing in a rather oppressed/oppressive setting kinda like ravenloft with a less 'gothic' and more 'fairy tale' theme to it's horror.

The intended party seemed to be (fairly) ordinary people (with the exception of monkeygod's fae character).

Looking at things now, we have quite a few completed submissions that would probably have townsfolk going for torches and pitchforks.

Please don't take this as a personal criticism. I'm just concerned about losing the intended themes of the story under the flood of intersting-but-strange character concepts.

It might be a good thing if the inhuman characters tried to include some way of at least passing for human when needed. Hats of Disguise are pretty cheap and could be re-flavored as just about anything.

Aren't you playing a booged?


Spidre wrote:
Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
What was your title, again? Mistress of the Spiders or something similar?

Mistress of the Many Legs

Royce the Orphan wrote:

When RVT first pitched this game the idea was that we would be playing in a rather oppressed/oppressive setting kinda like ravenloft with a less 'gothic' and more 'fairy tale' theme to it's horror.

The intended party seemed to be (fairly) ordinary people (with the exception of monkeygod's fae character).

Looking at things now, we have quite a few completed submissions that would probably have townsfolk going for torches and pitchforks.

I had rather noticed that.

Step 1: read instuctions--only humans allowed, +1 pre-determined fey.
Step 2: read thread--nobody is a human.

...


Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
Speaking of which, Royce, you're almost certainly going to be called a demon child at some point or another. Good boys should be out playing tag or with their mothers, not orphaned and creepy.

Baseline difficulty to notice anything strange about Royce: Perception DC 22 (to beat my average Disguise), followed by Sense Motive DC 18 (to beat my passive Bluff from Childlike).

Someone might notice something odd about Royce eventually, but if they do it tells me that they are people worth being concerned about. It's like an auto-filter for high level NPCs. :)


Quote:
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I swear to the ever-chaotic Fey Lords, amalgamation, do you always respond with such eloquence?

@Royce: It's like you're secretly incredibly sadistic and you think no one knows.

I know.


I don't think she counts the five humans so far, Neils


Faerie Beast Xerxes wrote:
Quote:
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I swear to the ever-chaotic Fey Lords, amalgamation, do you always respond with such eloquence?

Better to keep quiet and let people assume you're stupid than to open your mouth and prove it. :)


Doomed Hero wrote:
Faerie Beast Xerxes wrote:
Quote:
...
I swear to the ever-chaotic Fey Lords, amalgamation, do you always respond with such eloquence?
Better to keep quiet and let people assume you're stupid than to open your mouth and prove it. :)

...Well played.


Faerie Beast Xerxes wrote:

@Royce: It's like you're secretly incredibly sadistic and you think no one knows.

I know.

That would be because you can spot your own. There isn't a creature anywhere that can out-sadist a cat.


Originally, yes, RVT's stance was all humans save me.

However, she has since relented some, as evidenced by her response to Arwyne's question about being allowed to be a gnome.

I'm making dinner right now, so I won't go look for it, but its there.


Royce the Orphan wrote:
Faerie Beast Xerxes wrote:

@Royce: It's like you're secretly incredibly sadistic and you think no one knows.

I know.

That would be because you can spot your own. There isn't a creature anywhere that can out-sadist a cat.

*hugs Xerxes protectively*

What about that shadow-thing that keeps following you around?


Monkeygod wrote:
...as evidenced by her response to Arwyne's question about being swallowed by a gnome.

^ how I read that


Monkeygod wrote:

Originally, yes, RVT's stance was all humans save me.

However, she has since relented some, as evidenced by her response to Arwyne's question about being allowed to be a gnome.

I'm making dinner right now, so I won't go look for it, but its there.

*baps on the head with a newspaper*

her name is Cake.

And to be fair, my character is probably a special case, since she would make absolutely no sense as a non-gnome. Not that she makes much sense now, but... you know what I mean.


Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
Royce the Orphan wrote:
Faerie Beast Xerxes wrote:

@Royce: It's like you're secretly incredibly sadistic and you think no one knows.

I know.

That would be because you can spot your own. There isn't a creature anywhere that can out-sadist a cat.

*hugs Xerxes protectively*

What about that shadow-thing that keeps following you around?

What about her?


The Shadow Lady wrote:
Arwyne Feywatcher wrote:
Royce the Orphan wrote:
Faerie Beast Xerxes wrote:

@Royce: It's like you're secretly incredibly sadistic and you think no one knows.

I know.

That would be because you can spot your own. There isn't a creature anywhere that can out-sadist a cat.

*hugs Xerxes protectively*

What about that shadow-thing that keeps following you around?
What about her?

Just judging from the two things you've said so far, you are the most sadistic one out of the three of us. I'm talking about myself, Anwyne, and you here, because Royce doesn't even count when compared to us.


*glares at Xerxes and nudges him*


Monkeygod, my reasoning with that story feat is not only could you gain small rewards by helping people, but if you're smart enough to trick a into wishing, well... lol.

Neils and Elijah, not strong enough. MOAR POWERZ! I can make some suggestions!

EVERYONE,YOU CAN SUMMON ANY CREATURE OF APPROPRIATE CR WITH SUMMON MONSTER(X)!

I am not disallowing non-humans, but trust me, non-humans make one wrong move and the pitchforks come out. Still, I would prefer at least 3 out of 6 of the final applicants to he human(ish). Calibans and Booged are both types of humans, twisted by the supernatural.

Recruitment does not close until Sunday.


Ah, so for type, what would I count as? Humanoid? Monstrous humanoid? Bestial humanoid? And Emmie will probably sit outside the towns to avoid that. She doesn't want to be burned or stabbed.

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