~God Save The Queen: Victorian Curse of the Crimson Throne~ (Inactive)

Game Master william Nightmoon

Ah... Well technically the gnome was also unconscious, no one checked if he was still alive so...you just threw a living person Into the pool -_-

If the gnome wasn't dead before, the crocodile definitely finishes the Job, thrashing and quickly grabbing the unconscious gnome, dragging the body under.

Tasche recognized the rifle as a special Hunting rifle, commonly reffered to as an elephant gun. This particular model is a breach loader like a shotgun, but it takes large Rifle rounds. It's said these things can take an ogre down. From a hundred yards away.
Mechanic wise, it has the same range as a rifle(80ft) but deals 2d8 damage and can fire both rounds simultaneously. Attacking like that works like the feat Manyshot for bows, except that because of kickback the attack has a -4 to it. It takes a full round to reload

The magus is also able to identify the wand pretty easily as a wand if acid splash. Frankly it's useless compared to a good gun, but when your out of ammo...

You hear sound coming from the door below, as someone shouts, to hard for you to make out any words though...

lol... oops.

"S&~*E ON A STICK!" grumbles Arratu, annoyed that there are voices coming through the door before he got a proper chance to look into the pool.

Arratu advances to the lower door, standing against the wall with the door to his left, and slightly lowers his head, readying an action to gore the first non-child to come through it.

Barely making any progress on his goon, thanks to his abysmal strength, Tasche gives up dragging it and watched the gnome. "Woah. I really hope that filled 'im up. I do not want to be next on the menu."

He tosses the wand to Veronica. "Acid splash", he calls out, hoping she'll agree with his analysis. "Could be useful as a backup. Probably better sold to cheap street magicians who can only emulate the real thing. Definitely not as powerful as this beauty", he remarks while tapping his new gun.

Thinking about the economics, Tasche decides he has to chime in "Woah there big guy. Give the money to Doctor Evans? With his faith in the establishment, I think that's the worst place for it. We'll decide later, but I too vote to start a charity of some sort."

Noting that Arratu is in trouble, he starts reloading the elephant gun, eager to try his new toy.

Oops. Oh well. At least we didn't know he was alive.

Am I proficient with the rifle?

The rifle is a martial weapon, also please note there are 11 bullets for it, including the one the gnome put in there and didn't fire, oh! It's only a standard action to reload one round, a full round to reload both, forgot to mention if you reload just one ;P

The sounds from the other side of the door stop and it becomes silent... Tension grows.

Arratu stands poised at the door. He listens carefully.

percep: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (7) + 7 = 14

"Uh", Tasche whispers, glancing around. "Ideas?" He shrugs, and points his revolver at the door. His new toy is slung over his back, fully loaded.

Gotcha. Already half loaded. I'll pop another one in so that both barrels are loaded.

Crenshaw aims his revolver at the door. "Yeah. Open that and we rain fire."

Readied action to shoot on anyone seeming hostile when the door opens.

Readied Shot: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 5 = 13
Readied Damage: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 4 = 10

For the sake of moving forward, let's assume the group is arranged around the door, Urhal and Arratu on the sides, with the ranged folks standing ready to open fire. Maybe under cover, if there are any boxes or crate nearby.

Arratu nods at everyone, and staying to the side of the door, tries to swing it wide open.

Sounds good to me.

Luckily before Arratu decides to open the door, he hears the sound of a click as he listens, sounding something like the trigger on a fuse Arratu has detected a trap on the door, likely recently set up, do you still want to open the door?

heck no

Arratu's ears hear a small click, and he motions Urhal to back away as he also backs off.

"Detective... is there a device on this door? I think I almost blew myself halfway to the outer planes."

Tasche narrows his eyes, contemplating the possibilities. Concluding that the lock picking detective may be ever so slightly better than him at identifying the nature of this trap, he decides to stay out of her way. I've annoyed that poor woman plenty today. She doesn't need more problems. He stays back, but lowers his gun a little such that he isn't pointing it at her workspace. "We could go around. Try and flank them. They're expecting us to come through here", he whispers.

"Let me have a look first. But that sounds like a good alternative."

She moves forward, making sure to not approach from the front, in case of another giant gun on the other side.

Disable Device: 1d20 + 6 + 1d6 ⇒ (4) + 6 + (4) = 14

"Did it work, Detective? Maybe we should go around the other way... Unless someone knows how to pop a door open from afar. Gun wizard... any spells? "

"Hah!" Tasche laughs at "gun wizard". "Good one big guy. You are certainly most comedic." Snickering, he shakes his head. "Nope. No spells. Door magic ain't really my thing, although I do know a guy." He glances around, and pauses staring at the entrance way. Eyes gleaming with menace, he whirls around. "No spells. But a good wizard uses the right tool for the right job".

He pockets his revolver and aims the elephant gun at the door. A wickedly amused grin covers his face. He whispers to the room, unable to keep his excitement out of his voice. "Hey Madam Belle. Stand back and watch this"

"Good idea. Let's do this." Crenshaw still holds his revolver, ready to shoot at whatever is behind the door.

Arratu quickly backs up about 40 from the door, before Tasche does something rash.

Veronica follows suit, not really sure what will happen once that door is opened.

She readies her revolver so she can fire at anything that should charge out when the door is destroyed.

Ready action. Shoot any hostile that comes through the door.

Urhal follows suit with Arratu, though readying himself to attack anything that might come bursting out once the door opens.

Tasche's hand glows with magical power as he drags it down the barrel of the gun, leaving little glowing runes behind. "Bang."

Two glowing bullets streak out of the gun, tearing into the door.

Blow the door open!: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (13) + 4 = 17
Kaboom!: 4d8 + 2 ⇒ (1, 3, 8, 3) + 2 = 17 Firing both barrels. +1 from arcane strike per barrel.

Not quite a critical hit on a doorframe Veronica, but still a sizeable blast I'd say :D

Veronica easily disables the Tigger, it seems someone had rigged a shotgun to the door, and it would have fired had someone not taken the time to cut the cord holding the door shut.

When she finishes the magus lifts his gun and fires at the door. If in bullet was enough to blow a hole in the door, both was enough to blow it away, the door how has a sizable hole down the middle, easily the size of a man's head. You hear the shouts of children and the vile voice of Gaedren shouting. "Quiet, you come in here I'll blow this child's brains out!" he says, firing a warning shot to make sure you got the picture. You hear the scream of a girl as he says this. "you just tell me what you want, I'll be willing to talk about some middle ground if you're willing to talk before you shoot."

Arratu pauses and considers. That isn't my kid in there. My daughter has been dead for weeks, murdered by that scum. Wonder if I should let the others with more skin in the game talk this out. Still...I've been known to sweet talk a thug or two in my day.

Since I have trained in diplomacy and bluff, I will give this a try. Others please pipe in yourself if you would be helpful.

bluff: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (12) + 4 = 16

Arratu shouts back: "WE CAME TO KILL YOU GAEDREN. But we are also interested in a couple of children in particular. You speak of a middle ground... how about this? Send out all of the children you have in there, and we will leave. We will probably try killing you again someday, but we'll declare a truce for twenty-four hours."

Maybe he'll buy that. A lie sprinkled with some truth is the easiest lie to accept, but gods help me, I will not voluntarily leave this building until he is as dead as my daughter.

Sense Motive: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21
Gaedren laughs, You think just because I'm old that I'm senile? Your dumber than you sound, that's for sure... Gaedren can be heard moving, and those of you who can see though the hole see movement about 15 feet in, shuffling to the left. How about this then, slide your weapons through that hole you so kindly blew into the door, and I'll walk away from this without sending goons to pin your intestines to your front door when this is over. Otherwise...He fires his gun and another scream can be heard. I'll keep shooting Everyone in here.

"Ok. Let's put it this way." Crenshaw speaks calmly and slowly, tasting every word. "We know you. You've been the cause of many children's disgrace, the ruin of their lives... of my life." He secretly hopes the others will take the chance, given that chance appears. He only needs for the old man to doubt for a second...

"So, if we don't surrender, you'll kill this little one. And? You've killed by the dozens. Do you think you can blame that death on us?" If Gaedren feels intimidated enough, perhaps... "Kill the child. Then tell me, where are you going to hide? Who are you going to use as human shield? You're outnumbered five to one. You've lost, Gaedren. Face it, be a man at least for once in your life."

Hopes here are that he is intimidated enough for the rest to either shoot him without him noticing, or grabbing the child from his claws. I guess he can't watch everyone at the same time.

Intimidate: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (19) + 5 = 24

Arratu approaches the door again, so he can stand alongside it. Given the proper moment, he wants to charge in and smash (overrun) Gaedren to the ground... but the children in there are making him hesitate.

I don't see a way out of this situation that doesn't involve bloodshed. Mine and his.

Now's a good a time as any.

She says, pulling out an extract and downing it. She can feel the affects in less that 6 seconds, and her vision doubles, an invisible eye manifesting just through the hole.

She moves it a little further in, to a vantage point within 10 ft. as she is looking every direction to get the best idea possible of what they are dealing with.

Perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21

"Give me a few seconds everyone. Intel is coming shortly."

She whispers to the others, concentrating on her Arcane Eye

I'm kind of assuming that this is kind of like combat where everyone acts at the dame time almost unless not possible (like talking), so she's taken it at least before or while one of the others is talking? Otherwise, it's 6 seconds for it to work.

Urhal creeps to the other side of the door and nods at Arratu, ready to charge in at a moment’s notice.

Tasche drops the elephant gun, concluding that he doesn't have time to reload it. In it's place, he takes up his handy revolver, with a grim look adorning his face. "LAMM", he roars, about to remind the monster who exactly had come to kill him. Then he pauses.

Augusta is in there. Don't let him know that he has power over you. And besides, you don't want him to mention your debt in front of the others. Do not tell him who you are.

He swallows, and concentrates. With a lack of a better plan, he continues the conversation to buy Veronica time. "What goons? If you had goons capable of stringing us up by our intestines, they already would have done so. The only thing you have left is a bunch of scared children." He laughs without humour, and advances towards the door. We'll form a plan after we know more

Untrained Intimidate Aid Another: 1d20 ⇒ 15

Gaedren remains silent, a moment passes before you hear something. Something hits the floor near the door, and a door can be heard opening, it's creaking hindges squealing in protest from being opened to forceably. Gaedren is running!
Initiative is the party (Doesn't matter the order as long as your first), then Gaedren. However any attacks at the moment against him have full consealment.

Urhal slams open the door and runs into the room, through to door Gaedren went through if possible.

"Holy Shyte!" Crenshaw quickly runs and tries to pursue Gaedren while attempting a wild shot in the hopes he at least manages to cripple the criminal.

Swift: Judgement of Justice (+1 to Hit).
Move: Pursue him.
Standard: Shoot him (and hopefully hurting him).

Shoot, Judgement: 1d20 + 5 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 5 + 1 = 10
Damage: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9

"GARWWWWARRRR! ARRATU! " The angry monster sprints in on Urhal's heels.

If Arratu can reach Gaedren, he will attempt to overrun him, leaving him prone. If Gaedren is too far, Arratu will double move, pursuing Gaedren as best as he can.

overrun: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (9) + 7 = 16 +5 strength with my mutagen buffs, +2 powerful maneuvers feat

Blue lightning dances over Tasche's hand, and slams it downwards in one swift motion accompanied by a sharp cry of a strange arcane language, before dashing forwards with unearthly speed.

Ignoring anyone in the room, he heads straight for Lamm, pushing his way past his companions. "I can catch him" is the only yelled explanation given. Tasche knows full well that he can't afford to be distracted by the possibility of encountering Augusta at this time, so he charges without looking.

Casting expeditious retreat and sprinting 60 ft towards Lamm. I may not be able to injure him this turn, but the next one...

As each of you burst I to the room, Gaedren had strategically thrown his hostage just right to have anyone charging through the door trip over them.
some saves: 1d20 ⇒ 10
some saves: 1d20 ⇒ 1
some saves: 1d20 ⇒ 19
some saves: 1d20 ⇒ 11 Sebastian trips over the little girl and faceplants, most of the others able to easily step over her, however each of you is slowed down. Sebastian is now prone, the rest of you only move 25ft(except Tasche who moves 55ft.)

The room is wide, and open in the middle with the deck dropping off into the beach below, where low tide has exposed the black sand.

Gaedren had slipped through a door to left, Veronica goes to the girl and checks if she is alright, finding the child unwounded, although brused a little.
It appears Lamm was bluffing, as the girl is the only child in this room. The door to the left leads outside, where you can see the docks leading to the fishing boat at the end. Gaedren fires a shot at Tesche, who had manages to come out onto the docks,
Ranged touch: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13
The magus successfully dodges, able to step out of the path of the bullet just in time.

Will a 30 foot move put me in melee range?

"He's heading for the boat!" cries Tasche, ducking the oncoming fire. Again, he forces his power into his hand, causing it to glow with power.

You know, I've never actually done this outside of testing. Here's hoping it doesn't blow up.

He brings his hand to his revolver, charging it with power. It glows brightly, the runes holding the excess well. "Remember Ada? She sends her regards".

Revolver Touch Attack: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (5) + 6 = 11
Damage: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5

He pauses only momentarily to shoot, before continuing to chase the human monster.

Swift: pool point for +1, standard: shoot, move: try to get onto the boat. If he has an obvious melee weapon drawn and he can't get around, Tasche will just stop out of reach.

Did you say something about the Locksmith card giving me bonuses here?

Urhal runs as fast as he can trying to get to the fishing boat.

Come on, can't fail now. The bastard's so close, I can almost feel my fist slamming into his face. He'll pay, I'll make sure of it.

Double-moving to try and get onto the fishing boat.

"Damn!" Crenshaw stands up quickly and runs towards the fleeing Gaedrel.

Arratu continues his pursuit. If he can reach Gaedren in a single move action, he will also do a overrun maneuver.

overrun: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (15) + 7 = 22+5 strength with my mutagen buffs, +2 powerful maneuvers feat

If he has to double move, I will stop on the dock next to Gaedren, blocking his way back to the factory.

There's explosions of gun fire and shouting as the group stampedes after Lamm. Veronica takes chase as well, hoping to get to him to talk before the others can get their vengeance.

Yes, Tache received a +2 on all rolls that are Dex based, including attacks, for this combat.
Gaedren takes a hit in the arm, he curses, the other approaching him Although a double move would get you on the boat, it also puts you right next to Lamm, and unfortunately he's blocking the way to the boat. This dock is only 5ft wide so Arratu manages to get his manuver off, and Urthal is blocked by Gaedren.

Gaedren is slamed as the strange man Arratu blasts past him, blocking the way.
Gaedren curses, looking around.
He quickly realized he was both outnumbered, and outgunned. It wasn't gonna be a good idea to try and fight either of the men blocking his way, and soon he'd just be shot.
In one last attempt to get away, Gaedren dives into the water off the dock Geadren provokes AOO from Arratu and Urthal, likely ending the fight.

"ARRATUUUU!" bellows the monster as he puts his head down to gore Gaedren before he jumps into the water.

Gore to-hit: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8 (strength)
Gore damage: 1d6 + 7 ⇒ (3) + 7 = 10 (primary natural attack: 1.5 str damage)

Mutagen Buffs: +4 alchemical str, +2 natural AC, -2 Intelligence

Grinning, Tasche calls after Arratu "Crush him!". His revolver tracks Gaedren as he falls, and as he splashes into the water Tasche fires, the bullet sparking with magic power.

He will not escape. I can't afford that.

I don't suppose I can shoot him while he's in the water, can I? Just in case...
Attack roll: 1d20 + 6 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 6 + 2 = 24
Damage with Arcane strike: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6

As Gaedren is shot in the water he begins to flail in his last attempts to remain conscious before sinking below the murky water...

If he's still alive, won't be for too long before the criminal mastermind drowns.
If not, then now is the day that Gaedren Lamm has payed for his crimes. May his soul rot in the deepest pits of the abyss.

Despite the commotion and gunfire, no-one seems to have payed your escapades any mind.

Urhal dives into the water and grabs Gaedren, hauling him up onto the dock. He spits in the gangsters face and smiles, saying, ”Gods, I’ve wanted to do that,” before kneeling and muttering, ”You’re not gettin’ out of this that easily you bastard.”

Swim: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (8) + 4 = 12

Crenshaw is not too thrilled to leave Gaedren to drown, since he doesn't believe in leaving a loose end and the possibility that Gaedren once more escapes by sheer luck. He's about to give his revolver to anyone and dive himself, when Urhal jumps.

"Bring back the bastard, we need to be sure he's properly dealt with."

"Let's tie him up and then bring him back. Do you possess healing power to bring him back, Mr. Crenshaw?" inquires Arratu. "Otherwise, thanks to my time with Dr.Evans, I do know first aid and can at least stabilize him. He certainly has much to answer for. "

heal check to stabilize: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (16) + 6 = 22

"Actually, with 'properly dealt with' I meant we must be sure he's dead."

"Bwa ha ha ha! I absolutely agree, Mr. Crenshaw. But first, maybe we can get some answers. I'm sure we all have questions. Let's tie him up, leave him unconscious, and finish exploring the rest of this place. I'll carry the mook with me. Not about to put him down and give him a chance to escape. After we are done looking around, we can.... deal with him."

"Indeed. Well done Mr Urhal." Tasche claps Urhal on the back, grinning.

"Why wait?" Tasche trails off. "What answers could he have beyond lies?" He shakes his head and beads his revolver on the corpse. "We should 'properly deal with' him now." Swallowing nervously he continues, "I'm sure a casual search of the facility will turn up our missing children. I'm sure."

I think I just killed a dog in it's sleep and I feel like s%!$ :C

I swear if this was avoidable I'm gonna hate myself.

Veronica won't, she's dealt with the consequences of guard dogs but I love dogs and nooooooo.

I wanted to add that if it looked old or not guard doggy she wouldn't do it, but that wasn't her.

She is a woman looking for her daughter. This dog was risking that. Now everyone's gonna hate her!

I'm freaking out a little. Just me. Stupid RP forcing me to type how my character unflinchingly kills a sleeping dog.

My dear, I personally think you are all tougher and more respectable for doing what needed to be done. I bet that stupid dog would have gotten you all killed.

Meh. A dog trained by Lamm is no friend of ours. If you're really too squeamish, we could try sneaking around the back. What's that? Me? Why don't I kill it? Uh...

I'm, uh, not very strong.

...What if you took the -4 to hit and went non lethal?

A coup de group is an auto hit, auto crit.

I wasn't going to risk not hitting it, definitely not going to risk not hitting it and then risk it regaining consciousness later.

I just hope I actually killed it.

Oh true. You're right. Maybe one of us should consider investing in a sap if we're gonna keep this sort of thing up. We can't be cruel to all animals.

Urhal would probably have a better shot at one hitting it. Maybe we should've had him go? Oh well, too late now...

bumpity bump (I think everyone is waiting for a GM push to get us into the next room)

You said it doc. Not much I can do until I know how the dog plays out. And it's not really the place for banter or other social interaction, given that we're trying to be quiet.

Sorry for the delay, work has been pounding me and I have had very little time to get on XD

Update soon

Woops! I just realized the room you actually opened up to was a completely different room! Ha! I read the map wrong, aw well, I guess I'll just play with this new, if slightly rearranged Fishery...

Ugh, Update in the morning, it's late for me :P

Oh no! Any plans I had to read the adventure and spoil everything are completely ruined!

Kidding. I forgive you. I'm sure it'll be fine. I know I've done that as a GM countless times...

I have no non lethal. I'm gonna see how Urhal does before I declare anything.

You can attack with the butt of the pistol or end of the rapier, it's just -4 to hit unless you're Urhal.

Argh! I completely forgot Tasche isn't actually a martial character. Oh well. I just remembered.

Time to be the wizard this party deserves...

@Veronica I would, but I feel my strength penalty means I have very very little chance of actually helping that way.

Don't forget that we're using the Feat Tax Rules, so Weapon Finesse is a granted feature.

I'm still here and still waiting for the right moment. When I took myself out of the storyline I thought it would only be a couple of days. Sorry about that. Hope the action can pick up a bit.

I'm gonna apologise for any slowness I may have in posting, work is in my heels, but don't worry I won't abandon you all!

thanks! I am really looking forward to this story.

Oh right. I am not doing well for knowing my character options thus far. Sorry. I'm going to review my sheet and be more careful.

Dude I don't know what 31 will get me but I'm gonna reveal in it until the GM gives results.

I feel like although you rolled amazing on your lie, it's extremely unlikely what your tried to lie about.

And this is where things get grey...

I honestly don't know what to have them do, so I just decided to go hostile... Not like it would have changed anything the second you encountered someone else,

Also, please note what information you have that I DIDN'T give out.
I never said the dogs name, so you knowing it sorta throws stuff off...

I definitely understand the grayness and difficulty of attempting bluffing/diplomacy during battle... hardly ever works... so I totally agree with how all that went down. BUT, you totally did say Bloo's name. I mean, the guy didn't know that we heard his yelling through the door, but it was kinda obvious that the dog's name was Bloo so it was a smart move for Veronica to use it.

Yah you said we heard shouting and him say
"Swear you mongrels are more dogs than Bloo!"

Since my character has an 18 intelligence I figured she could put two and two together.

But too late now, we've just had some random guy scream and break onto the scene so stealth is gone anyway.

"YOUR STEALTH WAS REALLY BORING ME."

XD

Let's just hope those children don't have proficiency in improvised weapons or some sort of drug bonus to hit :P

Dat nat 20 dough.

Well rolled Urhal!

don't forget that you provoke attacks of opportunity unless you have the feat, so be cautious

Is that the first crit of the game? Well done Urhal!

We really have lost the stealth approach, huh? I just hope we find Lamm before he disappears into the night. Perhaps we should split up. Or perhaps not.

I wouldn't worry Veronica. I expect most of them to run from the screaming monster. I hope. Otherwise we're all gonna be taking a lot of -4's.

Still playin' right? Can the post frequency go up a bit? I know I asked this before, but it is hard to get any momentum without more posts.

Our hands are tied. We can't do anything until the GM tells us how our most recent actions went.

Sorry, My work has been on me, so if I go a few days without posting at times it's because work is on my butt, in addition I also used up all my data streaming Netflix when I thought I was on WiFi so my posting is even more limited :P

I'll get an update in a minute, sorry fir the delay.

So, I'm not saying we should split the party, but I'm also not saying we shouldn't...

no need to split us, yet... :)

GM, in response to what you wrote in the gameplay thread.

That was only two blows actually (two hooves), that third damage was the critical hit portion.

Natural attacks are weird and written poorly in the rulebook. I read up on it quite a bit when I was designing Arratu. This is my understanding-- if it is the same attack type- like two hooves- there is no penalty for using both of them at the same time.

If I was using two attack types-- like a gore, followed by two hooves-- then the gore would attack normally and the two hooves would attack at -5 each.

The hooves, because they are they same attack type, are linked and always use the same attack bonus.

It really isn't clear. But I think the best evidence for this is that in stat blocks of monsters, it will always list 2 claws or 2 hooves as having the same attack bonus.

HOWEVER, where I think I messed up, is that hooves are considered "secondary attacks". They do not get full strength bonus, but rather get 1/2 strength bonus each. The means you probably should subtract of 9 from the damage I did that goon (3 for one hoof, 6 for a critical hoof)

A gore, as a primary attack, would get 1.5 times the strength bonus.

Arratu can't gore and 2 hoof yet, since his skinchanging ability only gives one of these things at a time. But in later levels I am hoping to take a feat to have both.

Does all that make sense?

I found a couple of more things to help:

this one: http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Kirin

This is a monster that has a gore and 2 hoofs. The hoofs get the same to-hit bonus.

and this: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/53539/how-to-read-2-claws-in-a-path finder-monster-stack-block?noredirect=1&lq=1

And this is link talking about how 2 claws get the same to-hit bonus.

Ok, reading yet more. This is all very confusing. That is because no monster out there has 2 hooves only as their attack. They always have first the gore attack as a primary, and then the hooves as secondary. I am very strange in having 2 hooves with no gore, and so I don't fit into the rules at all.

To simplfying things, GM, how about this? Until I advance in levels at least, I will stick to goring things only and not do the hooves.

That means a single attack that does 1.5 strength damage. That is totally in the rules. Crystal clear.

If you want you can retcon my first attack to just do 11 damage. That is how much I would have done if I had simply done a gore attack.

Horses have just hooves, and if I remember correctly they still count as secondary weapons... Although I think horses also have a bite attack but I'd have to check to make sure...

Just do what you have been(adjusted damage of course) and I'll roll with it, and for the sake of easy transition I'll still keep the previous damage, it's hard trying to patch things up after the fact.

Also, from now on basic cartridges are separated into three ammo groups: Pistol, Rifle, and shotgun shells.
This keeps folks from using the universal "oh I have a pistol so I'll just stick my ammo from that into my shotgun."

Sebastion, how are you doing +4 damage on your revolver? I am intrigued.

Part of it is that the gun is Masterwork (+1 damage/attack from that), I believe the rest of it is a mix of Judgement, spells, and other boosts.

Black Powder Inquisition gives Gunsmithing. Under "Guns Everywhere" rules, Gunsmithing is turned into Gun Training.

It's actually a rule for Gunslingers, but I'm pretty sure I asked about it applying to other cases of Gunsmithing being received as class feature or similar, and receiving approval. If I'm confused, please let me know.

I forget, would brawlers be proficient with guns using your gun rules DM Waz up?

Yes, one handed guns are simple weapons, two handed martial, and those I specifically specify as Exotic (these include literal hand cannons or early automatic guns.)

Wizards, sorcerer, and monk are the only ones I listed as not proficient with guns.

Although some others arent as well, but none of your classes are Witches, Psychic, or Kineticist.

Black Powder Inquisition gives Gunsmithing. Under "Guns Everywhere" rules, Gunsmithing is turned into Gun Training.

It's actually a rule for Gunslingers, but I'm pretty sure I asked about it applying to other cases of Gunsmithing being received as class feature or similar, and receiving approval. If I'm confused, please let me know.

Oh nice! I was really trying to figure out how you got the dex damage, I was reading about it and couldn't figure it out. I wasn't blaming or anything but figured it was something that I missed. Trying to be a student of the game.

I'm gonna pocket the wand for now, and the big gun if no one else has any objections. We should probably divy up the rest of the weapons based on what we can use and what we'll sell, and create a communal money pool.

Dex to damage would be really nice. It's what's making me really consider a spellslinger wizard dip. I would lose a level of magus casting though, so I'm still not sure.

I could start a google spreadsheet to keep track of loot and what has to be sold. Does that sound good?

Yes it does. Thank you very much.

google spreadsheet link

I think it is a good idea to kinda record who gets what in here, so we can sorta try to keep loot distribution over time even. Not to get things perfectly or anything, but just to have a sense.

Yeah, I agree. Do you mind if I add a value column so we can approximate how much everyone is carrying?

No problem, I believe anyone can edit it and this now belong to all of us

Thanks for doing that, I'm just terrible at doing things like that on my phone...

Rules question: I have a ranged weapon bond, which functions as a wizards favoured weapon. At somepoint, it may be appropriate to designate a slightly higher powered gun as the bond. Am I paying 200 gold per level and performing the ritual to designate another one? I think that's what the rules are saying, but it doesn't really talk about just wanting another item.

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