Games of Chance (Inactive)

Game Master lynora

This is a homebrew setting, although we'll be using the Golarion pantheon, quite frankly because it's easier. Characters should be level 3 gestalt. 25 point buy to offset inevitable MAD. If you want to play something with a level adjustment you can take levels in your race as half of the gestalt. No restrictions other than level adjustment on character races. Also, psionics are allowed/encouraged, and most 3.5 stuff will be allowed. The setting is a large port city called Chance. While the kingdom of Sorryn is very humanocentric, Chance, while technically part of Sorryn, has a separate government and is very friendly towards all races. It is this world's largest city.

Chance is separated into districts surrounding the harbour. The game will be mostly taking place within the poorest district of the city, known as the Warrens. It is a lawless area ruled by gangs. The sort of place where admitting to being a law enforcement officer is tantamount to suicide. So you might want to hide those badges since you'll be new recruits to the city watch. Whether you're a hopeless optimist who believes you can make a difference or a petty criminal working off your sentence here because you pissed off a half-giant named Bubba back in prison and this seemed like a less messy way to die, you are now Watchmen/women/sentient beings...oh,for crying out loud you knew what I meant. Stupid thri-kreen always being overly sensitive about the recruitment speech...;P

Okay, this is the part where you post character concepts. Please, please, please do not worry about stepping on each other's toes. You will often be separated into smaller subunits for missions and even if we ended up with a subunit who all have similar skillsets, there are times when that is just what you need. Also, don't worry about patching holes to make a traditional team. As members of the watch you will all have access to resources that will help make up for anything you might be missing. No interested player will be turned away. I can work with just about anything, but no PvP (unless both parties have worked it out with me ahead of time via PM). And no evil alignments unless your character can work well with others, at least mostly within the law, kinda sorta. Oh, and my game posting style has been described kindly as 'chatty' so there may be a lot to wade through at times. I am always happy to give a 'story-so-far' summary to someone who had that pesky real-life stuff come up and needs to catch up quickly.

It will be next week sometime before I can actually start gameplay since I have a bunch of NPCs to update so that gives plenty of time to make characters and work all of the kinks out.

Hey Lynora, I've done a lot of research on Gestalt, but I've never played one. I'm going to roll something up, as I like the way you described your GMing style, and I'm interested in getting a feel for the Gestalt rules. I'll have something rolled up soon.

Thanks Lyn!!

I'll post my full concept later, but Inquisitor/Ninja is the base. Is it possible to add Drow Noble in, or are they not a LA race?(since PF races don't have an LA)

If not, I am fine with being just a Tiefling, though I wonder if I could choose a specific bloodline, but keep the Darkness SLA??

Dotting. This is Edgar, and I'll be submitting, at some point, a Dwarf Fighter/Barbarian specializing in the Dwarven Dorn-Dergar. I've got to work out stuff for him, but I'm thinking right now that he's going to be a Barbarian 3(Invulnerable Rager)/Fighter 3(Weapon Master). Actual build is nowhere near completion, not even started, though I know the majority of what's gonna go on.

How would you like character wealth to be done?

I was going to say standard wealth by level, but with two classes together that might be a little on the low side. Start with 3500. You can find whatever equipment you can afford. Anything can be found in Chance for the right price.

Anything can be found in Chance for the right price.

You may regret having said this.

;)

Thanks Lyn!!

I'll post my full concept later, but Inquisitor/Ninja is the base. Is it possible to add Drow Noble in, or are they not a LA race?(since PF races don't have an LA)

If not, I am fine with being just a Tiefling, though I wonder if I could choose a specific bloodline, but keep the Darkness SLA??

Based on all the extra you get from drow noble, I would say you would sacrifice one level of half of your gestalt for it. So either inquisitor or ninja would be level 2 and the other would be level 3 because you took a level in badass...I mean drow noble. :)

If you go with tiefling...I'm not sure what bloodlines have to do with it. The darkness SLA is a racial ability. It would make sense for you to keep it. Is this some sort of racial alternate option or something that you're asking about?

Wow! So many options! A mentioned in the other thread, I think I'll go with that sorcerer/wizard. Glass... We'll see about the canon part. Might specialize in something else. What archetypes are in scope? Specifically, can we grab from Golarion-specific stuff like from Inner Sea Magic (e.g. Thassilonian specialist, shadowcaster, etc.)?

lynora wrote:

Anything can be found in Chance for the right price.

You may regret having said this.

;)

Just remember....if the PCs have it, it's fair game for the bad guys too. <evil grin>.

Tieflings

On that page are different tiefling bloodlines. The bloodlines are technically a separate chart from the abilities that replace darkness, so you don't necessarily have to use both, Monkeygod.

Wow! So many options! A mentioned in the other thread, I think I'll go with that sorcerer/wizard. Glass... We'll see about the canon part. Might specialize in something else. What archetypes are in scope? Specifically, can we grab from Golarion-specific stuff like from Inner Sea Magic (e.g. Thassilonian specialist, shadowcaster, etc.)?

I'm fine with golarion-specific stuff, but I'll probably reflavor it to fit better to the world we're playing in. That's something I will discuss as part of character review once you know what you want to do. But it would be pure fluff. :)

Also, forgot to say it, but you also can choose two traits as part of character creation. I don't know why, but I always forget about traits. :)

Tieflings

On that page are different tiefling bloodlines. The bloodlines are technically a separate chart from the abilities that replace darkness, so you don't necessarily have to use both, Monkeygod.

Thanks, Edgar. For some reason that didn't come up on my search. I appreciate the assist. :)

Yeah, I'm fine if you want to have the flavor from an alternate bloodline but not trade out the darkness SLA.

Dotting. This looks very interesting. I'm thinking Bard/Ninja for a master spy feel but I'm not sure yet.

Dotting

Cleric, Gunslinger

What I'm referring to is the different fiendish bloodlines originally presented in Bastards of Erebus, and reprinted in Blood of Fiends.

There's one for each of the fiendish races, so Devil, Demon and Daemon are all different(along with all the rest), with different ability score modifiers, skill bonuses and SLAs. I want to keep the Darkness SLA however, as I plan to use it in conjunction with some other stuff from Blood of Fiends, all of which is up on the d20PFSRD btw.

EDIT! Lyn, did you mean I would need to be either Inquisitor or Ninja 2/Drow Noble? Or did you mean Inquisitor 2/Ninja 2/Drow Noble?

When ever I've played Gestalt, it was always equal, so if I stuck with a normal race, it would be Inquisitor 3/Ninja 3. Not sure exactly what you mean, sorry!

Dotting. This looks very interesting. I'm thinking Bard/Ninja for a master spy feel but I'm not sure yet.

This is similar to what I'm doing. Lynora said not to worry bout steppin on each others toes, but I just wanted to give you a heads up.

If you go more master spy while I lean more toward infiltration it should be fine.

She means You'd be either an inquisitor 2/Ninja 3 Drow Noble, or Inquisitor 3 Ninja 2 Drow noble.

Skirmisher Ranger/Cross-blooded Draconic-Primal Sorcerer

Fire... mo hotta mo betta.

Intrigued as Gestalt is always an interesting thought experiment... though there's always one to push the boundaries...

Query - how would you rule the interaction between Summoner (Synthesist) and Aegis (from Dreamscarred)?

Can I put on the eidolon suit... then layer a set of Aegis armor on top?

I've alternative ideas, but thought I may as well ask ;)

I'm not sure, exactly. You said psionics, and now my concept has changed a bit. Maybe Zen archer/Marksman (Psi)? Soulknife/Aegis?
Grr...

Intrigued as Gestalt is always an interesting thought experiment... though there's always one to push the boundaries...

Query - how would you rule the interaction between Summoner (Synthesist) and Aegis (from Dreamscarred)?

Can I put on the eidolon suit... then layer a set of Aegis armor on top?

I've alternative ideas, but thought I may as well ask ;)

Could you give me a link to aegis? My search-fu is weak tonight. In general I play with the default psionics/magic transparency, so if it does the same thing then no, that won't stack.

It's not exactly the same thing, although they are similar. They both put a type of "skin" around you. The Synthesist encases you in a monster, while the Aegis brings into being an ectoplasmic suit of armor. Aegis is from the Psionics Expanded: Unlimited Possibilities release.

Narkari wrote:

Dotting. This looks very interesting. I'm thinking Bard/Ninja for a master spy feel but I'm not sure yet.

This is similar to what I'm doing. Lynora said not to worry bout steppin on each others toes, but I just wanted to give you a heads up.

If you go more master spy while I lean more toward infiltration it should be fine.

There's a whole spy network in Chance, and even if you have the same concept, all I'll do is assign you to different subunits. Really, it's fine. :)

It's not exactly the same thing, although they are similar. They both put a type of "skin" around you. The Eidolon encases you in a monster, while the Aegis brings into being an ectoplasmic suit of armor. Aegis is from the Psionics Expanded: Unlimited Possibilities release.

Ah. I don't have that yet. So far I just have psionics unleashed. Hmm...that is complicated. I think it's similar enough that I would lean towards no.

She means You'd be either an inquisitor 2/Ninja 3 Drow Noble, or Inquisitor 3 Ninja 2 Drow noble.

Thanks for translating. That's exactly what I mean. :)

Aye - Edgar has it right. I don't think the Psionics Expanded stuff is on any of the SRDs - but the basic is below:

It's cheesy as it gets, but it would be predicated on the flimsy assumption that the synthesist replaces the base humanoid form - and the aegis abilities then call ectoplasmic armor onto the form of the eidolon.

The cheese comes from the fact that the eidolon form provides the buff physical stats as well as natural armor bonus; which the aegis then supercharges with normal armor and other benefits.

If it's too much of a mind screw then I'll look at something else.

I always wanted to try paladin/synth summoner (angel style Eidolon), and gestalt would be a great way to try it. Not sure how well it'd work in the presented scenario though. Might try anyway, see what happens.

Edgar Lamoureux wrote:

She means You'd be either an inquisitor 2/Ninja 3 Drow Noble, or Inquisitor 3 Ninja 2 Drow noble.

Thanks for translating. That's exactly what I mean. :)

You've been my DM for how long now? I think the least I should be able to do is translate for you. :P

OK, going hog wild with archetypes since gestalting Sorc/Wiz doesn't net much other than more spells than one can shake a stick at...

A Dhampir Crossblooded Sanguine-Umbral {and maybe Razmiran priest} Sorcerer / Thassilonian Pride specialist (Illusion - Shadow) Shadowcaster Wizard

Prelim crunch:

I'll need to think about feats, spells and items little more. And a name of course.

Not sure how to weave a history into your world as I don't know much about it.

I'll work up my character morrow. Give race some thought while at work.

Thanks again for taking up this crazy idea...I just better get in to this game, LOL

Hmmm - cheese confirmed.

Just did a quick paper exercise and a 3rd level Synthesist / Aegis could have an AC of 25 (10 +9 Armor +6 Natural Armor) have a bucketload of effective HP (6d10 + Con between base and eidolon form) and be swinging a large greatsword at +7 for 3d6+9 damage... and that's before feats.

Perhaps it best that particular sleeping dog stays lying...

Cleric/Gunslinger (Musket Master)

dotting

"You, 'ey you, a'm jost here to blow stuff op, and keep dis town safe too."

Fluff/backstory to come

dot me very interested!

you said 3.5 stuff is allowable? even prestige classes? im just slightly familiar with gestalt rules. Can you gestalt prestige class levels as well?

im thinking human wizard (necromancer)/binder.

Hmmm - cheese confirmed.

Just did a quick paper exercise and a 3rd level Synthesist / Aegis could have an AC of 25 (10 +9 Armor +6 Natural Armor) have a bucketload of effective HP (6d10 + Con between base and eidolon form) and be swinging a large greatsword at +7 for 3d6+9 damage... and that's before feats.

Perhaps it best that particular sleeping dog stays lying...

You hit the nail on the head here. While I think it's a bit like trying to wear two amulets at once (you can do it, but you only get the benefits of one), I would still allow it in Avalon cause it's creative thinking and you'd have to try harder than that to break a high level game. :)

OK, going hog wild with archetypes since gestalting Sorc/Wiz doesn't net much other than more spells than one can shake a stick at...

A Dhampir Crossblooded Sanguine-Umbral {and maybe Razmiran priest} Sorcerer / Thassilonian Pride specialist (Illusion - Shadow) Shadowcaster Wizard

Prelim crunch:** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **

I'll need to think about feats, spells and items little more. And a name of course.

Not sure how to weave a history into your world as I don't know much about it.

I have to get the kidlet to school this morning, but I will help with this once I get back.

I'll work up my character morrow. Give race some thought while at work.

Thanks again for taking up this crazy idea...I just better get in to this game, LOL

All interested players who want a spot in this game will get one. I'm perfectly comfortable dealing with large groups. It really helps keep a PBP going. :)

Sounds awesome, I'm very interested and will submit a character this afternoon.

I have an idea a for a ninja magus that could be a lot of fun.

Hey Monkeygod, Maybe I'll make him/her a drow and we can be cousins/siblings/twins. ;-)

This is Tiny coffee golem.

I have this character from another game that died a grisly death. I LOVE the concept and would like to work him into a gestalt character if that's cool. I don't want to step on Dark Network's toes, but it could be fun to have two Uber arcanists who have a healthy rivalry. Perhaps even friends or siblings of some kind.

I will definitely be incorporating stealthy and social skills as this charactere is a drow and those are useful skillsets.

This is Tiny coffee golem.

I have this character from another game that died a grisly death. I LOVE the concept and would like to work him into a gestalt character if that's cool. I don't want to step on Dark Network's toes, but it could be fun to have two Uber arcanists who have a healthy rivalry. Perhaps even friends or siblings of some kind.

I will definitely be incorporating stealthy and social skills as this charactere is a drow and those are useful skillsets.

Though perhaps a different class combination. Perhaps a fighter type / wizard who eventually takes the dimension door feats so he can pop around in combat.

I love Gestalt and my mind is going a bit crazy with possibliities. Bear with me while I narrow down my concpet.

So for purposes of this game, no, I think that allowing them to stack is just overdoing things.

Yep - pretty much, was merely a passing thought at any rate ;)

Will let the concepts swill around a while longer and throw up a more reasonable character come morning.

Black Blade Magus/ Teleport specalist wizard. ;-)

That's what I'm going to run with until told otherwise. Drow noble race probably, because I love them and rarely get to play them. Though I am going to browse through the MM to see if anything else looks fun.

What do you think of this idea?

A fat and lazy (relatively) halfling wizard (maybe sorcerer) / Master Summoner with an improved familiar elemental (earth or air) that is in the shape of an easy chair that he rides around instead of walking. ;-)

Black Blade Magus/ Teleport specalist wizard. ;-)

That's what I'm going to run with until told otherwise. Drow noble race probably, because I love them and rarely get to play them. Though I am going to browse through the MM to see if anything else looks fun.

Sorry to sound like a spaz. Ignore everything else. I'm going to run with this idea as a drow noble. I'm going to play him as a stealthy Eltrich knight type character.

Its funny that Kolm and Meredian are making a come back for this game as the concept I'm going with is a variant of the DMPC I was planning on using in our game LOL!

I have absoultely no problem tying my character to yours Mer. We get along well enough to make it work.

Its funny that Kolm and Meredian are making a come back for this game as the concept I'm going with is a variant of the DMPC I was planning on using in our game LOL!

I have absoultely no problem tying my character to yours Mer. We get along well enough to make it work.

Groovy. Drow Noble Blackblade Magus/Wizard teleport school. I suspect you have a backstory in mind. Feel free to put it in a spoilder here or PM me. I'll work myself into it.

Dotting for interest. I checked this thread first because I've always been interested in a gestalt game, but Chance sounds pretty intriguing too!