GM Silbeg's PFS: Eyes of the Ten (Inactive)

Game Master GM..Silbeg

A friend was supposed to let you know, I just recently learned he didn't.

I have some fairly major health issues. I am unlikely to be back on the boards any time soon. Sorry for the late response.

Oh man. That sucks. Don't worry about us, go take care of yourself!

Yeah, take care of yourself and I wish you a speedy recovery!

I surmise that at the very least we are expected to reach the Raven's hideout, and if we bypass the encounter by striking a bargain, it should still count as a victory by a creative non-violent solution? Whatever response you come up with, I'm sure it will be interesting. :)

You are correct that you would still claim victory and get rewards for bypassing the encounter with a creative solution. There may be other consequences that stem from doing so that may ripple across the series, but non-violent solutions to problems are very much encouraged!

I have to say, as someone who has ran this before, I find the capture and domination of the Red Raven amusing. Good job so far GM for handling it with class :)

I am tempted to use a pilfering hand spell to grab that vial of blood back from him. It wasn't part of the deal, it was given as an act of goodwill, but he's been throwing a tantrum has petulantly hurling our goodwill back in our faces, so I'm not going to feel bad at all about taking back my token of goodwill and telling him that I'll hold it until he delivers on his side of the deal.

Trust is a two-way street, and we've tried putting some faith in him, but he's really not giving us any reason to trust him. I won't feel bad about holding some security. If he runs, the blood will make sure I can find him easily. What do you guys think?

He's gone. And don't like the idea. Don't forget he have influence in Galt. And we still need to have a lodge here.

Yeah, this may be a case where we have to suck it up for the better of the Society. After all, RR said that while he hates Adril and Ralph, he's still on the edge about the Society as a whole. May have to set aside our feelings for the guy for better cooperation for the lodge, lest Woodsedge gets on the bad side of the Galtan government.

And I hate doing the alignement thing but should Ralph be close to the chaotic alignement? He is very selfish.

And I hate doing the alignement thing but should Ralph be close to the chaotic alignement? He is very selfish.

Seeing as you're the only party member who thinks Red Raven is acting reasonablty, and that there's no logical flow in that statement, I'm just going to ignore your comment.

Touché.

Careful - you are all on the same side here. There is some interesting things going on with morals here, but be careful on how you treat your fellow players.

Careful - you are all on the same side here. There is some interesting things going on with morals here, but be careful on how you treat your fellow players.

You are right. I will try to be careful.

Careful - you are all on the same side here. There is some interesting things going on with morals here, but be careful on how you treat your fellow players.

I was consulting my fellow players about an action precisely because it would affect the group, and was not impressed with being accused of selfishness when I was specifically being careful about how my actions might affect the others.

But I'm content to leave this matter be.

GM Mars wrote:

Careful - you are all on the same side here. There is some interesting things going on with morals here, but be careful on how you treat your fellow players.

I was consulting my fellow players about an action precisely because it would affect the group, and was not impressed with being accused of selfishness when I was specifically being careful about how my actions might affect the others.

But I'm content to leave this matter be.

Oh gosh... it was not about that post... It was just a reflexion about how Ralph acted since the beginning. (No enforcement)It was not reliated. It is my fault for not expressing my intention.

I more than appreciate when you had consult us for this. It gives me the impression that you thinks of us like a group and I like that. I would like to be able to write in a less cold tone.

For the rest of the part, i will give my out-of-context posts a positive tone or at least a positive renforcement.

To be honest, I am uncomfortable with Ralph's personnality. I understand that is something I need to work with.
I am so immerge with the story that i forgot that this a game. And i need to have fun first and most.

Which I have difficulty now because i am too focused on the "moral" side of thing.

So a second objective is to just have fun in this game and not stress over it.

Just a side note, props to our GM for how he handled the Red Raven thing. It's not easy to get an emotional response via text. Seems like he managed to get under a few characters' (and players') skin (including Scotty's/mine) with his portrayal of the character.

It was just a reflexion about how Ralph acted since the beginning.

I'll grant that Ralph is strong-handed when crossed and is a touch arrogant (ironically similar to Red Raven), and indeed that part is an intended aspect of the roleplay. Ralph is not a heroic character. He was never meant to be and does not pretend to be. He was even partially designed to be a foil to a more heroic character my friend was playing, and though he is not in this game Scotty has done a great job of playing the same role. I am happy for Ralph to be called out on his character flaws. I even expect it.

But I do not think 'selfish' is a fair characterisation because it is contingent on actions, and I as a PLAYER I endeavour not to be. Ralph healed the servants at the lodge and hid his demon from them to avoid scaring them. As for the domination, Ralph used it to extract information that furthered the plot and aided the group. This was at a time when we had no bloody clue what was going on and why we were attacked. It was not about leadership, it was about capturing a hostile character and making him talk in the most efficient way where his truthfulness could be assured.

Most importantly no one in the party made the domination an issue until the Red Raven started whinging about it just now. Red Raven himself was given the chance to "speak freely" several times earlier and made no effort to. And keep in mind that it was Ralph himself who offered to let Red Raven go if he agreed to return us the sword and give us the evidence. Ralph was the first person in the party to talk about undoing the domination.

I can understand on the GM's part that he had to guide us to the encounters, and that probably affected Red Raven's responses. It's part of GMing a scenario with a limited scope. I can understand that, and our GM has actually handled it remarkably well, even if it meant he needed to make Red Raven an unlikeable character. But if a fellow player had all the time to protest, but was happy to ride the wave until it was used (I think unjustifiably) against Ralph and THEN have that fellow player turn around and say "yes he's right and I was against it all along" is I think disingenuous. To then turn around and say I was selfish, all the more so.

Géatan Émond wrote:

It was just a reflexion about how Ralph acted since the beginning.

I'll grant that Ralph is strong-handed when crossed and is a touch arrogant (ironically similar to Red Raven), and indeed that part is an intended aspect of the roleplay. Ralph is not a heroic character. He was never meant to be and does not pretend to be. He was even partially designed to be a foil to a more heroic character my friend was playing, and though he is not in this game Scotty has done a great job of playing the same role. I am happy for Ralph to be called out on his character flaws. I even expect it.

But I do not think 'selfish' is a fair characterisation because it is contingent on actions, and I as a player I endeavour not to be. Ralph healed the servants at the lodge and hid his demon from them to avoid scaring them. As for the domination, Ralph used it to extract information that furthered the plot and aided the group. It was not about leadership, it was about capturing a hostile character and making him talk in the most efficient way where his truthfulness could be assured.

Most importantly no one made an issue about the domination until the Red Raven started whinging about it. Red Raven himself was given the chance to "speak freely" several times earlier and made no effort to. And keep in mind that it was Ralph himself who offered to let Red Raven go if he agreed to return us the sword and give us the evidence. If anything, Ralph was the first person in the party to talk about undoing the domination.

I can understand on the GM's part that he had to guide us to the encounters, and that probably affected Red Raven's responses. It's part of GMing a scenario with a limited scope. I can understand that, and our GM has actually handled it remarkably well, even if it meant that Red Raven became an unlikeable character. But if a fellow player had all the time to protest, but was happy to ride the wave until it was used (I think unjustifiably) against Ralph and THEN have that...

In the intention to better communicate, I will explain what I understand of this.

I am reading that you say that Ralph is strong headed and a bit arrogant and explain the intention behind this (anti-hero)

You present solid example of why Ralph isn't selfish and explain how he have help us. I was thinking more of the confrontation with Osprey and how he seems to reject authority and like individual. I was not basing it on all his actions so far. An error done by me.

As for the domination, I am reading from you that nobody has object this till the Raven whine and that Ralph was the first person in the party to talk about undoing the domination as an another example of why he isn't selfish. In that, you are also right. I will like to add that, personally, I don't have much interest about domination as a player and it was a good idea. Gaétan, in the other hand, don't have the same opinion as I and he wasn't there when the spell was cast. I should have done a sense motive roll but I played as Gaétan didn't know it. Gaétan is against for the reason he has think.

As for the last paragraph, it is difficult to me to understand. I am reading that I, as the player, did not protest to it and then turn against ralph thinking: He is right.

I understand that you are hurt if this is how you saw this. (Which was not my intention) I skip part of the Raven post. I have attention's deficit so it explains a part of my reaction. Like I said, I play as Gaétan didn't know about the domination and the "he's right " part was more written like epiphany for Gaétan's behavior than his personal opinion since the start.

In resume, I know now that Ralph isn't selfish and I hurt you. There was a miscommunication on my part. I know of what I think of Ralph was exaggerated and based on partial impression and single events.

I feel better now and I have renewed my motivation of this game. I happy that you have show us your side and I hope that it is give us a better understanding of each of us.

Long day at work, was a little annoyed when I typed that last post. Sorry for the tone.

So yep, that was why I was angry.

I will not have internet the next days. return monday

I realize that I've spent a lot of time talking as the Red Raven and not as the GM, so let me step back a moment and say that while the Red Raven is pissed at being dominated, I think that you guys have done a fine job so far and that most of what you've done has been acceptable and appropriate in the eyes of the Society (with maybe the exception of setting a demon loose on the battlefield. a big maybe on that too, since it's only summoned.)

And quite frankly, it really only matters about what the Society thinks and what your own moral code thinks. The Red Raven can complain all he wants, but none of you answer to him.

I will also add that the conversation got a little more heated than it usually does because of *spoiler*.

Still gone.

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rawr brains...

GM is exhausted and braindead - will be dealing with cultists when I get time tomorrow. If there's any buffs you want to do before hopping into the red raven's portal, then do them. I'll probably advance that tomorrow evening.

So I should mention that a few key pieces of my gear got rekt (when something is so wrecked even the word to describe it is wrecked) by the recent change to Ultimate Equipment. How do we want to handle that in game? Are we going to grandfather the old items through to the end of this session? If not, are we able to swap out our gear outside the scope of the scenario?

Luckly, I don't have those items on Gaétan.

But i would propose to wait till the end of the scenario.

Yeah, those changes don't apply until the end of the scenario. So you'll have to switch between parts 1 & 2.

I thinks this teko is more of pawn because of a hostage.

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The ring is more of a souvenir.

If cale and the hobgoblin fall, the fight is finishs.

Ok I am going to admit to being a little confused here.

Who did Geatan assume cast flame arrows for him? I do not have the spell.

What makes Geatan think Teko is a pawn due to a hostage?

I will wait to see the results of Geatan's actions, especially Teko's reaction to Geatan's words, before deciding what to do.

I will take my turn after Koraq.

Gaétan own spell. (1/day)

Second... Gut or story sense?I eat stories, and sometime I can predict something from my expérience.

A ring is more defensive. We didn't know anything about him and i think you have spill all that we know all of the organisation and this name didn't stuck.

Why he wasn't there in the attack? Something is fishy.

Cale seems to convince this man of there no one who will help him.

He doesn't ping evil. And we have a theme in this story about pressure and hostage. And Cale loves taking people hostage.

A ring could be a sign of engagement.

And in same way, Gaétan's god is family. He could have just jump into conclusion.

Anyway, I couldn't kill him with my roll. And Cale seem to be the" autority" and our little pathfinder field guide says that hitting the leader is how you do it.

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Quite alot of speculation, but if you managed to take down Cael, that works for me. He and Teko are the obvious main players here. I was considering a quickened fireball on Teko and a readied fireball for Cael when he casts. No matter.

Let's see what Teko's reaction is. If I insert my action just after Koraq, I can act after seeing his reaction and the results of your attack, but before Teko gets his action.

Ok, if I get to free the phoenix and he agrees to let me give him a place to stay, I am going to buy the island vanity and direct the phoenix to it. GM I understand that I will not be able to get any actual in-game benefit out of this, but I will still ask you to make a note on my chronicle sheet that Ralph owns an island that has a phoenix living on it! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Will he heat up the sauna?

Ha. Well, he'd be an indefinite house guest with lots of mutual benefits (mutual protection for starters). I'll start to shape Ralph's fire spells with a phoenix theme as Ralph uses Zaliex's fiery nature to further his knowledge fo fire magic. Zaliex on the other hand wiill have access to Ralph's ridiculously broad selection of spells if there are things he needs doing. Basically, they'll be good neighbours. Two very powerful good neighbours.

If the island has a solid bedrock, several castings of wall of stone and stone shape with Ralph's ranks in knowledge engineering should enable him to make anything he wants. Soften earth and stone and transmute rock to mud spells will allow him to set foundations and then firm up the ground around them. With that as a basis, there's quite alot I can do over time.

Ralph will of course have his own tower (probably more of a ziggurat for more stability). Whether Zaliex wants his own roost at the top of Ralph's tower, an artificial mountain with a cave or a stone nest at the top of a plateau, Ralph can accommodate.

And anyone who comes looking for trouble will have to risk facing off against a phoenix, a high-level wizard, or both. When I get to retiring Ralph, it will make an incredibly kickass anecdote in his retirement plan.

#S!@@OnlyWizardsCanDo - and spell sages take it even further with 4 spell lists to grab spells from

So, I forgot to bring a charger with me this weekend, so I'll see if I can type out a full post response on my iPad or not. I might not be able to post anything substantial until Monday though.

I am on vacation from June 3rd - June 12th. May be able to check things periodically, but otherwise, feel free to bot me as needed.

Well, Koraq's away, but we haven't heard from Scotty in awhile.

Are you still here, Scotty? I think we're waiting for you.

I have the same question.

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I'm still around. Sorry, I didn't realize that it had been so long since I checked in. I'm moving to the OSU main campus in August and prepping for that got me really distracted. I'll get caught up and back in asap.

As for the guillotine, there a big chance that they are final blade. Artifact that is THE symbol of galt and once the head falls, it need a wish to have chance of ressurect.

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Heads up guys - I'll be at Origins this weekend (running Eyes as well - I'll be running Eyes of the Ten while running Eyes of the Ten!)

I'll be making an effort to check the thread while I'm there though. I won't be bringing my laptop however, so the major thing that might come up is that if we finish the scenario this weekend (depending on how well this plan works out it might be the case), I'll be a little delayed on getting chronicle sheets to you because I can't edit pdfs on my iPad (or at least, I don't know how yet). I'll post all the info though so you have it.

Good luck on this speech Scotty! You've got a decent shot at skipping an encounter here!

Chronicles can wait since we are planning on playing the whole arc. Just need to know how much gold we get for shopping. Enjoy Origins!

I'm back from Origins - will push for this to get a move on - I want to get us past this soon. Post coming tomorrow. (The last bit of Origins was a bit... distracting)

Congratulations for your three digit.

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Sorry guys! I'm doing prep for running our local con that starts tomorrow; I will probably be quiet until Monday. Thank you for your patience!

It's mainly Scotty at the moment. I think you will be ok to take the weekend off. But you'll probably either come back to find us in the middle of a fight with Foofy of at the end of the mission.

Idea of item. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/m-p/one-w ay-window

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Sorry guys - been a busier weekend than I expected. Will have something up tomorrow.

There will be a post up first thing when I get home from NYC today.

EDIT: ugh, and there's another where I'm switching aliases again.