Ok, my ruling is that only the caster sees the auras. The spell description says "You detect magical auras." I believe this to be different from "You make magical auras visible."
I guess we could argued if even the caster sees the auras, as the verb used is detect and I'm pretty sure that blind beings can cast the same cantrip and obtain the same information (grimlock sorcerers come to mind).
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I already had a spreadsheet with various sets of adventure gear, including an expedition/caravan. I made another tab on the loot tracker and copied it over.
Oddly enough I already planned that Waylund spent time writing various list of equipment that a caravan from Sothis to Eto might need. He had a lot of free time at sea.
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Ok, my ruling is that only the caster sees the auras. The spell description says "You detect magical auras." I believe this to be different from "You make magical auras visible."
I guess we could argued if even the caster sees the auras, as the verb used is detect and I'm pretty sure that blind beings can cast the same cantrip and obtain the same information (grimlock sorcerers come to mind).
In crusader road, a pf novel, the main character hears the Aura. I think it's unique to the caster.
I'm fine with the auras only being visible to the person who casts the spell.
That room seemed like a spectacular place to figure out who could see what things.
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Concerning Prestidigitation: I'm a DnD/Pathfinder novice but I read on the paizo forums that Paizo really changed Prestidigitation from WoC's version. Apparently the change wasn't because Prestidigitation was too strong and needed to be changed mechanically but be cause the source book "Tome and Blood" isn't covered under the OGL and they didn't want to be sued.
Is it ok if I use the "Tome and Blood" version? It's just so much cooler and RP rich.
Here is the link: Fun With Prestidigitation
Theshen is one of my rare spellcasters who does not start with the detect magic cantrip. He is quite focused on spells that can directly assist others, as opposed to the more arcane applications (in multiple senses of the word).
Waylund, it should be fine, go for it. As long as you're not directly causing damage/abnormal statuses and not reproducing another cantrip, I'm fine with the more flavourful version of prestidigitation.
Sorry, Shu-kri, could not wait any longer.
Post is up. Tomorrow is my deadline at work, so I might be unresponsive during daytime.
I just checked the tracker and I don't see a column for the "party" share. Was a decision made to not do that?
Also, am I understanding correctly that the sage has just offered to pay for all the food, equipment, and transportation that we need to get to Eto?
Rawiya, yes, the sage will cover transport, accommodation and related costs (food, water, anything else I might be forgetting). If you want you are welcome to take part in planning and such, but my idea was to spare you from resource micromanagement.
Regarding the party share, it wasn't clear to me when I created the list whether everyone had agreed to it. Anyone can add it to the tracker, though.
Waylund, you're really getting into character, eh? =)
So, does anyone object to splitting things 7 ways? Essentially, the number of people who have access to the loot +1?
I'll add the column in about 24 hours if I there isn't any further discussion.
No, I think that would work.
I think it's a good idea.
Say characters take items they can use, then split seven ways?
Say characters take items they can use, then split seven ways?
Essentially we track the value of what people take, but don't go all penny-pinching at every single division.
@Waylund
Let's not move ahead until everyone has had a chance to comment. We don't know yet whether there's any discussion. Let's not assume that everyone agrees with us until they've had a chance to talk about it.
It's not fair to people who can't get on right away to ignore their input and act as if it doesn't matter what they think. That's why I said we would wait 24 hours for their comments.
Since my idea is different from Theshan's, I see that we don't actually have agreement yet.
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Waylund is working on a new cantrip and the memory magic of the molokhiya could be the breakthrough he needs to complete it. If it's too powerful, I can make it a level 1 spell. He's been mentally working on a non-magical version of the memory palace. (He had a lot of free time at sea).
Waylund’s Memory Palace:
School enchantment [mind-affecting]; Level bard 0, sorcerer/wizard 0
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components S
Range Personal
Target you
Duration Concentration (D)
Saving Throw Will negates (harmless); Spell Resistance no (harmless)
You create a virtual library in within your mind. Immediately after reading a book you may cast Waylund’s memory palace and then concentrate for one full minute to place a virtual copy of that book within the library.
A special shelf within the library contains a number of crystal balls equal to your wizard or sorcerer level. You may spend one full minute of concentration to place five minutes of memory within one crystal ball. While exploring a memory you may pause time and move about within it. However, you may only see and hear things that were within your sight and hearing at the time of the
‘recording.’
For the duration of the spell you perceive yourself as inside of the library are blind and deaf to events in the real world. One round in the real word is perceived as one hour within Waylund’s memory Palace.
Guys, just an FYI: I'm clocking in 12 hours at my job now, so my post today will be fairly short (but hopefully informative ;)
Considering everyone playing will be effected by any change to how loot is divided, it's best to have consensus if possible. If someone doesn't weigh in at all, fair enough. But it's been barely 12 hours since the GM's last post in this thread.
Edit: Ah, for the sake of a final refresh.
It's fine, it relaxes me. As long as you don't mind a few typos.
Regarding the loot decision, it's entirely up to you. Just don't fret too much about it and find a compromise that seems fair to everyone.
It is definitely too powerful for a cantrip. Also, I would rather you slowed down with all the custom content, especially given that you are not that familiar with all the mechanics of pathfinder. There are plenty of tools on the paizo spell list to tell many good stories – and as long as the mechanics remain roughly the same, you're free to flavour them as you see fit.
A couple minor things, since we're at it:
* Generally speaking NPCs are under the control of the GM, so I'd prefer you didn't assume their reactions to Waylund's actions – in this case it was fine, but for all you know this might even be a succubus disguised as Nenet. I am happy to take suggestions (and critique, if I handle her incorrectly), but also have my own plans in how she will fit in the story;
* I'd prefer if you stuck to simple present when posting to the gameplay thread. It creates a bit of dissonance if we're all writing in different tenses.
That said, it's really nice how you absorb ideas and then use them in your own way to create new things and progress your character. great job =)
I don't have a strong opinion on the loot.
I'll wait a couple more hours to see if Badhru and Shu-kri have any other questions for the sage/Nenet and then move forward to the feast.
Also, a reminder that you should finish any tweaks to your characters before we depart to Eto (which I expect to happen tomorrow, unless you want to use the feast to interact with one another).
Two questions, dear players:
* going through the discussion thread it seems everyone has agreed to one post a day during weekends. Is that correct or have I misread something?
* would you be ok with ditching XP tracking and go for milestone-based leveling (i.e. you will level at appropriate intervals, usually at the end of each main mission/plot point)?
Proposed Loot Split process
Right now I'm counting Rawiyah, Badhru, Shu-Kri, and Wayland as agreeing.
I think Theshen is in agreement as well. Theshen, let us know if that process is too different from what you were expecting.
And Asmani as indifferent, which I'm taking to mean she will go along with whatever the rest of us decide.
So I'd say there is consensus on how to split loot, and we can add a 7th column to the loot tracking sheet.
Shu-kri, since you're the main loot tracker, could you do that? I think we're probably better off with only a few people messing with that sheet, since all of us have editing powers. I've already discovered that my "total" cell was mysteriously turned to white letters so that it looked empty.
Yes on 1x/day even on weekends
Yes on milestone leveling rather than XP tracking.
Interesting. My Loot Cash Tracking column text keeps getting switched. The text is being turned into white letters so that it is invisible. It has happened three times. This last time, there was another person who started editing the sheet shortly after I fixed the problem, but they were signed in anonymously.
Perhaps we could consider locking the sheet so that only Shu-kri can make changes.
Waylund, you may want to check your column since changes were being made there, as well.
I'm down to do what the group decides. I'm usually way more available on weekends...between former students headlining a hip hop show, dinner with goddaughters, and seeing a friend today I've been afk.
And, yes, I'm good with dumping xp tracking.
I'm fine with dumping xp tracking, too.
That loot split is fine by me.
I will say yes to posts daily at weekends, that's not usually a problem for me.
I'm fine with dumping xp.
Hmmm…that's worrying. I will definitely need Shu-kri to PM me their gmail account, but perhaps everyone else could do so too? This way you do not depend on Shu-kri's availability to update every minor expense of yours but still have somewhere to track your own cashflow? Waylund, would this solution work for you?
I hadn't posted here about the inventory.
I have no objection to either the sheet being locked to one volunteer, or to handle our inventories ourselves. I do object if the sheet is open to the public. If it's open to public changes then we have no guarantee that a random person can't fiddle with the sheet, with zero accountability.
Edit: Ninja'ed by the GM again. ;)
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Hmmm…that's worrying. I will definitely need Shu-kri to PM me their gmail account, but perhaps everyone else could do so too? This way you do not depend on Shu-kri's availability to update every minor expense of yours but still have somewhere to track your own cashflow? Waylund, would this solution work for you?
That's fine. I'll also keep track in my own spreadsheet and give you the link.
I have my own spreadsheet for all my active characters both online and offline, so I'm fine with Shu-kri handling the group loot without having to also track individual non-loot expenditures.
Keeping the group sheet up to date for my character expenses is duplicate work for me in any event. But if you need that info for GMing, I'm fine with whatever system works best.
I don't need to have access to your expenses, as I trust everyone to play fairly. I had kept the cash tracker column because I thought it could be useful, but I see it's best to remove it completely.
To summarise everything:
* loot sharing will be handled as suggested by Rawiya here
http://paizo.com/campaigns/GMOmelassDestinyOfTheSands/discussion#9
* the spreadsheet will record items you find and who got what, plus the amount of money set apart for raise dead;
* we will remove the cash tracker from the spreadsheet;
* individual expenses are tracked privately by each player.
If someone has any objections to this system, post it here, otherwise we'll consider the matter settled.
Will wait for Badhru another couple of hours and then we can start the trip.
That sounds fine.
Works for me. And I'm joerice@gmail.com.
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I think everyone one just wants to get underway, but in case anyone wants to do anything in the market I found a few good videos of the Souk in Bahrain. I lived there for a year and made a trip to the Souk about once a month. The Souk in Agadir Morocco was pretty similar. I Know it's not the same as a medieval fantasy city based on Cairo but it could help stir imaginations.
We might end up in the Eto market too.
This video includes only the "medium wealthy" area. The center has high end stores and the outskirts are dirt roads.
This video does a good job getting the feel right, maybe better than the first.
This guy's video is super shaky but is good coverage of the textile section where I usually went. They have some talented tailors, and it's a great place to get good suits hand made.
Souk El Had in Morocco.
Sounds good to me