GM Nel's Kingmaker Campaign

Game Master CRobledo

Lol..hopefully tonight I will have my noble missionary ready for you all, and I will leave only upon "true" death( in character of coarse)

And I will gladly become your healer and head for wisdom. Plus she's a mean cook and a decent singer.

Posted Lady Ionnia Orlovsky in the recruitment thread for you all to gander at

Yeah, welcome to the Stolen Lands. Don't leave your luggage unattended.

I know

Since the 21st has already begun where I am:

Happy Apocalypse Day everyone!

Especially Dris, 'cause it got to count as Name Day. ;)

Its the Apocalypse, Everybody Dance!

Yeah i couldn't go to work, do to the storm....*begins to dance*

Happy 13th Bak'tun everyone

I'm going to be traveling a bit until New Years. You can run Kaeso if you like to keep the story moving. Just keep him earnest, bashful around women, and eager to protect and preserve the group.

I'll try to check in, but I don't know how often I can.

EDITED to include stuff from mite stronghold

Quest Related:
plain brass wedding ring set with a single pearl with the names Oleg and Svetlana engraved inside

Tartuk's simple leather-bound journal

Written in charcoal in Undercommon, the paper consists of two columns, one labeled “Us” and one labeled “Them.” The “Us” column lists only two things: “kobold statue” and “lots of spears and coins.” The “Them” column lists “magic dust,” “lots of coins” and “shiny human ring.”

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Who wants:

a wand of Magic Missile CL3 with 25 charges (Dris wants but will give Mornie first choice)

scroll of fly (Dris wants but will give Mornie first choice)

bracers of armor +1

cape of resistance +1

boots of elvenkind (wouldn't these be good for Bingo?)

one leather bag

masterwork light metal shield (medium)

seven +1 flaming crossbow bolts

a small masterwork cold iron sickle- Bingo

12 small spears

Tartuk's quarters also contain the tribe's promised treasure, which contains:
74.20 gp in copper
213.2 gp in silver
302 gp
300 gp
130 pp gp in platinum

1.93 gp in copper (Mites treasure)
12 gp in silver
32 gp.
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1065.33 gp in various coins / 5 =

213.07 gp each (in assorted coins)

Thanks Dris. New year maintenance time! Upon returning to Oleg everyone will be level 3, so feel free to get your character sheets updated, and either send them to me or simply let me know when you have updated your character here in the forums.

Remember this should be the last time to change anything out you don't like about your character. If you want to swap out a feat, etc... now is the best time to do it.

For Norn, I think I will be picking up the Divine Hunter archetype, and leave Kaeso and Bingo the frontliner roles.

Regarding Tickbiter:
I had Mornaura act that way under the assumption that a familiar keeps most of its powers when the master dies. At least it was that way in 3.5. ;)

Regarding Loot:
Thanks for the list, Dris.
I'd really really like the magic missile wand, but sadly I can't use it as long as I don't have a reliable way of making that dc 20 UMD check, so I'd take the fly scroll instead. Might come in handy sometime.
Don't have much use for the other items.

Regarding Levelup:
YAY!

Regarding Ingame-Planning:
I'd go for the berries and the Stag Lord camp right now, but of course we want to go back to Oleg's to introduce our new cleric! :)

Yay! 3rd level!

I completely agree on the mission strategies. It would be nice to press on, but we have to go meet our geased- to- never- leave- us cleric.

Mornie-- since both of us arcane casters are also focused in mind-affecting spells, perhaps we should coordinate a bit to cover more situations. For both of us sleep/slumber is our best spell. Great when it works, and hideous when it doesn't.

I will try to get Dris some more blasty abilities, even though she's enchantment-focused. And if I understand correctly, witches are great at debuffing. Do you have more thoughts on this?

Hitpoints: 1d6 ⇒ 4

And if I understand correctly, witches are great at debuffing. Do you have more thoughts on this?

I think she has been doing quite well with evil eye already :P

Was I greased?

I don't feel greasy?

Drispeera D'Lith wrote:

And if I understand correctly, witches are great at debuffing. Do you have more thoughts on this?

I think she has been doing quite well with evil eye already :P

Yes, Yes, she has!

@Lady Ionnia-- But are you sure you don't feel the slightest bit geas-y?

*mumbling* Well, I doubt any of the guys would object if you two start greasing up each other.

Anyway, um, Dris, yeah, seems we both need some more options against those pesky mind-affecting-immune monsters.

I'm indeed planning to focus Mornaura on buff/debuff capabilites, with the occasional blast and utility spell/hex.
Additionally, I'm going to take Craft Wondrous Items as one of her next feats, and start making nice little emergency-fetishes and other things for everyone. :)

No I feel clean as a babys bottom..even have a nice rose scent to me :)

Lol! Geas! GEAS! Doesn't anyone get Geas-ed anymore? Did pathfinder do away with geas-ing people? Do only those of us who remember painting bison on cave walls in France with Gary Gygax remember Geas-ing?

(You are all probably too young to understand my very witty joke just then.)

-Bangs head on strange glowy magic box-

I am so old.

In other news-- I may change one of my extremely rare first level spells known. I am trying to decide between Enlarge Person and Burning Hands. Basically, if Mornie or Lady Ionnia is taking one, I shall take the other.

PS. Yes, I actually did playtest AD&D with Gary Gygax at Gencon *mumbles the number*. This is not an advantage, however, when playing with the new rules you young pathfinder whippersnappers have dreamed up.

Geas still exsists, and yes I've played 1st and 2nd edition as well as Hackmaster!! But I digress And I can't take either of those spells

I am trying to decide between Enlarge Person and Burning Hands.

Just as a reminder, Enlarge Person is also a 1 round cast time. In case it's a bother like Sleep.

Gnihihi... Well, Dris, of course I got the geas thing, just wanted to tease a bit. ;)

l got Enlarge Person already - just didn't see a good opportunity to use it since our fights took place in those small caverns which probably would've gotten a large Kaeso stuck.
Of course you can still take it if you want. I'm probably going to craft emergency-fetishes with that spell someday, though.

K, thanks. I'll take Burning Hands for the blastiness then. I may ask for some scrolls or fetishes at some point ;).

If I have room I was hoping to take a craft feat myself at 5th level... perhaps craft wonderous items. but we'll have to see how feat starved i am once we get there.

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GM Nel, I forget; Do we roll for HP? Or to we take the average, rounded up?

GM Nel, I forget; Do we roll for HP? Or to we take the average, rounded up?

Average round up every level. (so, 4/level for Dris)

Will post when I get home..yay I'm so excited

So I hope y'all don't mind while we're all recovering from the various holidays- (the 13th Bactun being my personal fave) -if I catch us up on some clerical work.

Carrying GM Nels Quest List forward...

Find Bokken the Alchemist - no reward (check)
Kobolds in the hills - 800 gp from swordlords (check, need to claim reward)
Svetlana's Ring - 1000 gp in trading post credit (check, need to claim reward)

Find a Tatzlwyrm head - 600 gp
Find the Temple of the Elk - free spellcasting from Jhod
Falgrim Sneeg - 4 or 2 masterwork weapons if captured alive or dead
Find Fangberries for Bokken- discount on alchemical items (??)
Deal with the Stag Lord (Justice is its own reward???)

(I know Bingo wants to charge off and get the Stag Lord and his crew of evil bandits. But metagaming it a bit, I wouldn't mind picking off some of the other quests so we gain as much strength as possible before facing the Stag Lord.)

And the magic stuff...

a wand of Magic Missile CL3 with 25 charges (Dris)

scroll of fly (Mornie)

bracers of armor +1 (Mornie or Dris since it doesn't stack with armor. I think it should be Mornie since she hasn't gotten the shiny wands)

cape of resistance +1 (who doesn't have one? Bingo? Kaeso?)

boots of elvenkind (Bingo?)

masterwork light metal shield (medium) (Kaeso or Norn?)

seven +1 flaming crossbow bolts (Kaeso or Norn?)

a small masterwork cold iron sickle- (Bingo)

12 small spears- sell ? (2 gp x 12/ 2= 12 gp)

one leather bag- sell ? (1 sp /2 = 5cp)

Thanks for both of those Dris. Norn will pass on the items, since if I'm going Divine hunter, cant use the shield.

If it's all the same to you, I'd take the shield. I suppose I can pick up a crossbow, in case we need to set something on fire. Bingo should armor up as much as he can, it seems to me, so take the boots and the cape.

I want to do some shopping--213gp each? Hmmm.

So continuing to update...

a wand of Magic Missile CL3 with 25 charges (Dris)

scroll of fly (Mornie)

bracers of armor +1 (Mornie or Dris since it doesn't stack with armor. I think it should be Mornie since she hasn't gotten the shiny wands)

cape of resistance +1 (Bingo?)

boots of elvenkind (Bingo?)

masterwork light metal shield (medium) (Kaeso)

seven +1 flaming crossbow bolts (Kaeso)

a small masterwork cold iron sickle- (Bingo)

It feels weird shortchanging Norn. Can he use the bolts? (Also, I see that Lady Ionnia uses a crossbow, so perhaps we can give them to her in a bit.)

And then the cash... There was 213.07 gp in coins each from the mites and kobolds.

Additionally we should be getting

800 gp for settling the kobold problem. (If Kresten can stay with Dris's explanation until the part where she asks for the reward.)

And minor sales...

12 small spears- sell ? (2 gp x 12/ 2= 12 gp)

one leather bag- sell ? (1 sp /2 = 5cp)

Totals 812.05 gp /5 =

An additional 162.41 gp each

Also... we'll be getting a 1000 gp credit from Oleg for finding Svetlana's ring. Would it be possible, and would you all agree to getting a wand of CLW (700 gp) from that credit?

And Lady I: It feels weird not to include you in party treasure (yet), but I'm presuming GM Nel was fair with you in starting treasure?

Yes but I don't think I bought any magic items

Stat block adjusted to reflect L3 and change to Divine Hunter :)

Happy with no treasure, as I traded some gear I had for a comp. longbow which is not that cheap.

LOL at "a Rostlander pays his debts."

Does that mean winter is coming?

Oh... and can the party use the "store credit" at Olegs to get a CLW wand?

;)

Yep. CLW wands are 750gp though. Unless you want them partially charged, but those are rare.

For the record, Norn has issues with wands of infernal healing :)

Just as an FYI, I will be home on vacation next week. However, I should have plenty of internet, so still expect regular updates. Just in case I skip a day, that's whats going on.

Well, I've thought about giving Mornaura the Winter Witch archetype... :D

And if there's one AP in which Game of Thrones references are appropriate, it's got to be Kingmaker. ^^

Anyway, I'd agree on buying a CLW wand.
Mornaura could use it (at least the cure spells are on the witch's spell list) and be a secondary healer, or we could have Norn or Ionnia (our primary healers) carry it to enhance their healing capacities.

GM Nel, if you're okay with that, I think I'll take Craft Wondrous Item as Mornaura's 3rd level feat and start making single-use items (or maybe 1/day, but those are probably too expensive) of her spells.

Regarding our future plans: as much as I'd like to finish the fangberry-quest first so that we can grab some cheap potions before tackling the Staglord, it's probably impossible. Going from what the alchemist said, they seem to be on the other side of the river which we can't cross.
Moving to the Staglord on the most direct way possible means moving through known territory again, which doesn't help us at all.
Our options are thus:

a) Take the most direct route through unexplored hexes (moving along our known territory) and take out the Stag Lord asap.
b) Prepare for a really long trip and explore the whole western half of our charter territory (everything to the west of the lake) before we attack the camp.
c) Compromise. We explore the forest-y area between our known area and the Skunk River and attack the Stag Lord after that.

Personally, I'd vote for c. Thoughts on that matter?

Sorry I haven't been around for a while, just got out of the hospital. Caught RSV, a respiratory infection that's only dangerous to premature babies and people with compromised immune systems. Thank the gods I'm not a preemie or compromised... Oops, I am. Compromised, that is, not a preemie. I take immune suppression drugs so I don't reject the heart that some really nice family in Maine let me have when their son stopped needing it. :( Had a really high fever but I'm doing better now. I'll try to get caught up on my all PBPs.

Bingo agrees with the distributions discussed and option C works for him as well.

Bingo's all updated and ready to go.

Glad to see you back, Bingo.

Glad yer feelin' better, Bingo.

It looks like enough of us agree... let's head west, see if maybe we can find the Erastil temple before poor Jhod has a seizure, and maybe pick up the Tatzelwyrm head or Sneeg too. If we're lucky, maybe hit 4th level before going up against the Stag Lord.

Thought I was gonna place an order with Oleg, but I have to keep saving up, so onward ho! (no comments from the peanut gallery)

GM Nel, if you're okay with that, I think I'll take Craft Wondrous Item as Mornaura's 3rd level feat and start making single-use items (or maybe 1/day, but those are probably too expensive) of her spells.

I need to know more about what you want to do here... I have no issues with the feat but are more wary about custom items. They can get out of hand quick.

Looks to me you are looking for Scribe Scroll? That's what I think of when you say single-use items of your spells. I'd be wary of allowing an item that mimics a scroll, when scrolls are already there to do that.

PS glad to have you back and healthy Bingo.

@Mornie-- Would you be willing to make me one of these?

Page of Spell Knowledge

Its one of the things I've been saving up for and can't afford yet.
I would pay you a % above cost. (I have another character with craft wondrous and she charges a 10-20% markup above cost, depending how long it takes her to make.) I think craft wondrous is terrific-- a real help to the party.

Also if there's a spell I know that you need for crafting an item, I'd be willing to help. And I'd be willing to "Aid Another" with the spellcraft check when there's a tough one.

Dris, I noticed you put the flaming crossbow bolts down as going to Kaeso but he's got a longbow. I think our new cleric, Lady Ionnia, is the only one who carries a crossbow.

Yeh, I put in my wall of words somewhere that we'll probably give them to her in a little bit.

@Bingo:
Urgs. Good to read you're okay. :)

@Nel:
Well, the problem with scrolls is that only people who got the spell on their own list can use it (w/o UMD), and I want to craft for the group and not just for myself. Potions can be used by anyone, but got limitations regaring spell choice and level (3 might be enough for now, but I like to plan characters ahead).

Of course, Craft Wondrous Items is pretty versatile as it is, and while I can understand if you don't want to dive into custom items, I think the versatility is balanced by the longer crafting time (potions and scrolls up to 250gp only take 2 hours, but wondrous items take a least 8) and possibly higher cost.
I would like to craft items like... fetishes with 1/day enlarge person for our frontliner(s) or other buffs to enhance our group's versatility.
And of course I'd ask you about every non-standard item I plan to craft.

Ultimately, it's your call. But I think I'll take CWI either way, since I'll probably find some useful things to craft in the standard list. ;)

@Dris: Sure, which spell would you like?
Spellcraft DC seems to be 22 (CL for the item is listed as 17, +5 base) for a spell I know and 27 for a spell I don't.
Mornaura got a spellcraft skill of +10. With your aid and taking 10, I could craft the item with a spell I know. An unknown spell would need an actual check of 15 or higher - your money, your call, but as I know the forum's dice rolling system, I wouldn't risk it. ;)
(On that matter: I still have to decide which level 2 spells to take...)

Crafting up to 1000gp takes 8 hours. It depends on when we take off for our expedition, but let's say I get to craft 4 hours before that.
4 hours crafting time left actually takes 8 hours, with 4 hours per day max means it'd take 2 adventuring days to finish.
Since my experience with crafting is rather limited (we haven't used it in my pen&paper group) - how much would you charge for that? ^^

@Everyone:
I think there are 2-3 days at Oleg's for us to do various things: train animals; create items; conduct services to introduce yourself and your deity; wait for Kresten to send for our money; wait for Oleg's goods to arrive, including our wand; etc. So I suggest that

A) Anyone that has something they want to do before heading out, speak up. I think there's time. And

B) Is everyone good with the idea of heading West, exploring some territory, and hopefully fulfilling a couple more quests before heading South to the Stag Lord?

@Mornie & GM Nel:
Caster Level 17 for the Page of Spellknowledge???? It must be a typo. The *Ring* of Spellknowledge is only Caster Level 7! And the ring is a 50% more valuable item. The stat-raising tomes that require a wish to create are caster level 17. I guess that'll be a GM call. -looks over at GM Nel, hopefully-

I was thinking of taking Craft Wondrous myself, because all the single-use creation feats are more expensive for a sorcerer to create (a level higher). But I can't do it for 2 more levels, so Mornie, you should go ahead. Maybe I'll take rings or armor creation when I get the chance. There are a lot of great standard items to create with wondrous--bags of holding, cloaks of protection, belts/headbands of stats. No need to go crazy creating your own items anyway.

The spell I wanted was Enlarge Person, for reasons which will become apparent soon. But if you can make fetishes, then it may make more sense to have gobs of those, and think of another spell. I'll ponder as we await a ruling from GM Nel on the caster level of the page.

I did some asking around and someone pointed me towards this:

Pearl of Power: What is the caster level required to create this item?
Though the listed Caster Level for a pearl of power is 17th, that caster level is not part of the Requirements listing for that item. Therefore, the only caster level requirement for a pearl of power is the character has to be able to cast spells of the desired level.

—Sean K Reynolds, 08/18/10

Still your call tho, GM Nel.

@page of spell knowledge
Yep, I was going to say it's most possibly the CL of the highest spell needed to make it, like for POP. There is a sorcerer versions of the pearls of powers (runestones of xxx) that also do that.

@ fetishes
For the fetishes, if they are to be one-use items like potions, then my guess would be that their cost would be 2x the potion cost. Ioun stones which replicate another item, like +2 stat ioun stones, are 2x the base item to account for slotless-ness. I guess it depends on how you want them to work. For example, enlarge person is WAY better in potion than a scroll/wand because it makes it a standard action instead of a 1-round action. So would these fetishes emulate a scroll or a wand?

If they emulate a scroll, then they would be 2x the scroll cost.
If they emulate a potion, then 2x potion cost.

I like the 2-3 day layover and I also agree with going west

I agree with the general plan. I'm no hurry to take on the Stag Lord, if delay means we are stronger.