GM Burglar's 4-20: Words of the Ancients
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The Young and the Brute Squad, Episode 2: Copper Conundrum
Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27
Yeah, I will do the bluff roll again after the other 2 throw in their 2 copper. Then maybe Taurus can offer a rematch, lol.
Male Bear Burglar 1
The eyeball watches the story, but zones off a moment during the tale's retelling. He gives a moment's pause before responding. "Right. Look, I'm gonna be frank with you guys. I thought about the whole situation, and realized that wrestling match wasn't the best way to judge someone's character. It seemed like a really good idea at the time, but now I just really want you guys to show me you're not... something I shouldn't have let in there."
Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27
Guessing that was too low for possible aid to matter?
"We found the information we came for, but aside from some creatures and traps that wanted to kill us, there was not much of worth in there."
Bluff 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (12) + 10 = 22
Male Bear Burglar 1
Yup. DC for that was 20+, and you guys aren't Helpful Halflings of the Order of the Dragon.
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
Hey, I've got a shirt rerol— oh, wait, never mind. ;-)
KULIK looks at Erin, then at the nebulous eyeball and nods.
Erin human shpeak true. Many empty roomsh.
Bluff(?) w/guidance: 1d20 + 0 + 1 ⇒ (17) + 0 + 1 = 18
He's not an advocate of lying, but will support Erin's words with truth. KULIK will also bestow Desna's guidance on anyone else's Bluff or Diplomacy roll.
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
Intimidate: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (18) + 13 = 31
"Wrestling not a good measure of a man's character? Bah! What kind of dragon are you? You can tell everything about a man from a good wrestle."
Can I get guidance too? =P If so, +1 more!
Male Bear Burglar 1
I want to make sure; you're casting spells in front of the dragon?
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
On second thought, hold the Guidance. There's no magic in wrestling!
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
Oh, rereading, I see that it's the actual dragon, not a scry-ball. My bad.
Which undoubtedly makes casting guidance at this point a Very Bad Idea. Though, I'm sure it has Spellcraft and would know it to be a non-offensive spell. But that's neither here nor there.
Male Bear Burglar 1
Kulik wrote: Which undoubtedly makes casting guidance at this point a Very Bad Idea. Though, I'm sure it has Spellcraft and would know it to be a non-offensive spell. But that's neither here nor there. It does, but if you think something is lying to you and one of his friends casts Guidance on him, what would you think? I.e. there's text about this. So, casting or no?
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So, we've got two attempts and an aid right now...
Taurus Intimidate of 31, no attempts to aid
Erin Bluff of 22, Kulik aids, but no other attempts
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
No casting. Casting bad. :-)
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
Any indication of if anything has been successful or not yet?
Male Bear Burglar 1
From a metagame level, I'll note I haven't responded to any of the newer in-character posts but I am responding to that inquiry.
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
I am now more confused than I was during my previous post.
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
"What she said, it was all kind of uneventful. Boring even."
Aiding Bluff: 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (4) + 14 = 18
Male Bear Burglar 1
Nobody's hit the DC yet*, but are within the threshold of success.
*As of Taurus' post. I have 42 toners to change amongst 27 floors now that my order came in. Probably no post until tomorrow, but feel free to aid each other at stuff.
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
I assume that means people can aid Taurus's intimidate as well?
Aid Bluff: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9
"Certainly no rune-marked plates..."
Male Bear Burglar 1
Taurus-Strong-Like-Bull wrote: I assume that means people can aid Taurus's intimidate as well? Indeed. I'm picturing this more like how I can organize combat posts in order, as opposed to "this is all chronological."
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
You heard the DM. Get to assisting!
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
Intimidate a dragon? Sure, why not?
KULIK looks uncertainly at the Shoanti and tries to imitate his stance.
This is how we assist an Intimidate check: 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (8) + 0 = 8
Unsuccessfully.
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
Ashur will try be less forgettable and more scary. "Wrestling is the best way to judge someone!"
1d20 - 3 ⇒ (20) - 3 = 17 Bam!
Male Bear Burglar 1
Doesn't some inquisitor ability give half their level to intimidate?
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
And isn't Kulik a half orc? I believe they're scary by nature.
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
KULIK gave up the Intimidating racial trait for Rock Climber. So no bonus there.
However, he did not give up the Stern Gaze class feature, which for whatever reason isn't listed on my Intimidate or Sense Motive modifiers (hafta check HeroLab when I get home), so he gets a +4 and manages to assist. Yay!
Male Bear Burglar 1
Intimidate wrote: Special: You also gain a +4 bonus on Intimidate checks if you are larger than your target and a –4 penalty on Intimidate checks if you are smaller than your target. Performed in this order listed, since it makes more sense.
Taurus Intimidate of 31, two attempts to aid, one succeeds. Maximum of 35, were Erin to aid. Would fail anyways.
Erin bluff of 22, Kulik and Ashur aid, Taurus fails. Result of 26. Failure, due to the combination of Taurus failing and the sliding slope of increasing DCs for failing earlier. Silly Kulik.
"You're burgling Rune plates!?! I knew it! No normal people would come here just to wrestle and lie to dragons! You're just going to waltz back to your magic leader and leave with some Devil-summoning plates, aren't you?"
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
So the size penalty applies to aiding too? Never knew that.
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
At this point I don't any of our social skills are going to work.
"You're making a big mistake dragon. We're not your enemies."
"But we're leaving here and you're not going to stop us."
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
I'm inclined to agree, I don't think we have any way out of this.
KULIK looks at the dragon quizzically. KULIK not undershtand. Dragon not evil. We not evil. Why need to fight?
Male Bear Burglar 1
Ashur Glaber wrote: So the size penalty applies to aiding too? Never knew that. I also didn't apply it to Taurus' roll initially, so that was moreso the big factor.
You guys DID have a shot at social power, though. Kulik botching up the easier initial diplomacy cranked up all the DCs by two, which kinda got rid of your guys' buffer for failure (since you did really well the first time, by expectations for something named "Brute Squad.")
"You're not evil? Exactly what some evil, cultist would say! I bet you ran in there and got some evil artifact you're going to use to enslave the world! Admit it!"
Map.
We're basically at the point where we're rolling inits or you're trying to talk to him more (though that is correct in that it will be rough-to-impossible now for this group.)
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
"With that logic, you could be one of us. Fine, let's just take him down and leave. He's not gonna listen."
Male Bear Burglar 1
Ashur: 13 = 13
Erin: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (2) + 5 = 7
Kulik: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (9) + 7 = 16
Tarus: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6
Zonaladin: 1d20 + 5 - 1 ⇒ (6) + 5 - 1 = 10
Kulik is first! Then the not-man, because I am best at math! Then the dragon! Then, pretty much everyone else!
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
You rolled a 13 for me burglar, which even w/o modifiers beats the dragon.
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
KULIK shakes his head sadly. KULIK show you symbol of Desna. KULIK remove your exhaustion. KULIK heal your woundsh. KULIK would not do this for evil dragon. KULIK know dragon is not evil. KULIK know we not evil. KULIK does not undershand why mighty majeshtic dragon now want to fight.
Presuming this is inevitable...
Initiative: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (12) + 7 = 19
Male Bear Burglar 1
Yeah, Ashur; edited the original post for math correctness. You had an init roll in your post before, so I just copied the result over verbatim.
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
Ah okay.
Ashur moves forward, horns enlarging in size and tries to gore him.
Focus!: 1d20 + 20 - 3 ⇒ (5) + 20 - 3 = 22
1d8 + 18 ⇒ (7) + 18 = 25
Male Bear Burglar 1
Miniupdate for some obvious info Ashur and maybe Kulik has helped find out: A 22 does not hit, and he has Uncanny Dodge.
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
Gee I sure wish the dragon was still exhausted...
=P
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
KULIK will (reluctantly) cast prayer (which may make Ashur's 22 a 23).
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
Taurus-Strong-Like-Bull wrote: Gee I sure wish the dragon was still exhausted...
=P
In retrospect, me too.
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
It doesn't? Inconceivable!
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
No good deed goes unpunished!
In effect: Male Half-orc Inquisitor 16 | hp -39/130 | Init +10 | AC 28, T 19, FF 23 | CMB +22, CMD 36 | F +16, R +17, W +18 | Prcptn +28 (drkvsn), SM +31 |
Taurus-Strong-Like-Bull wrote: No good deed goes unpunished! Great, now I wanna turn green and fly. :-)
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
Aren't you already green?
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
True, but he doesn't fly.
Male Bear Burglar 1
Kulik prays to Desna!
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Ashur moves forward, but fails to pierce the dragon's hide!
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The dragon steps backwards and seem to focus on something! Perhaps a spell-like ability?
"You thought you could fool me, but now I can see the truth! You're speaking some foul language and empowering your demon-man with some vicious power from beyond the stars! I knew I shouldn't have wrestled your other horn demon!"
Erin, Taurus, Kulik, Ashur! MAP
Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
"Hey take that back! I am not a demon man! Devil? Yes, but not a demon. So let's get that straight." Ashur steps forward and unleashes hell.
1d20 + 18 ⇒ (1) + 18 = 19
1d20 + 18 ⇒ (3) + 18 = 21
1d20 + 18 ⇒ (16) + 18 = 34
1d4 + 19 ⇒ (1) + 19 = 20
1d20 + 18 ⇒ (13) + 18 = 31
1d8 + 19 ⇒ (2) + 19 = 21
Male Shoanti Barbarian 10 HP: 102/102 l AC: 12 /T: 12/FF: 10 l Fort: +13, Ref: +6, W: +9 l Init: +2 l Per: +5 l Movement: 40
Does the dragon appear to have reach? If so, Taurus will total defense and move around towards its rear for the flank.
Male Bear Burglar 1
It didn't express any on a possible AoO on Ashur, but I'm not exactly sure how Uncanny Dodge works in that case. I ruled in favour of "just against AC," since that's how I've always done it, fits what it intends to do by description, and couldn't find a quick answer on a forum search.
@Ashur: "Devils?!? Ha, even better! Do you know how many devils I've sent back to Hell personally? Hundreds! You're gonna be nothing, space cult scum!"
As Erin moves around, the dragon attempts to knock Erin to the ground!
Trip, negative level, fatigue: 1d20 + 23 - 1 - 2 ⇒ (5) + 23 - 1 - 2 = 25
EDIT: Redirected that provocation, since Erin provokes first. The power of cognitive thinking is not with me today.
Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27
Erin moves to the south to set up a flank with Ashur, likely provoking, and takes a vengeful swing.
"He will be staying here."
Move 30 feet to southern square and defensive attack on dragon. +3 AC, +7 if I provoke.
Attack 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (20) + 9 = 29 (Flank, Defensive, One Attack)
Damage 1d6 + 4 + 4d6 ⇒ (4) + 4 + (5, 1, 5, 6) = 25(Flank)
Confirm 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (17) + 9 = 26
Damage 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5
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