Callie can use the scroll of blur.
I also would kind of like the ring, but for an entirely random reason (Callie was loosely based upon a very old AD&D character, who had won a Ring of Feather Fall in a fight). Someone who has an actual rational reason for taking it should have dibs however.
To your other comment, I presume if the GM identified the dust of appearance for us, it is already ergo identified. (As a GM myself, I usually presume if the party has Detect Magic, someone takes 20 on identification checks, so as to not waste time identifying crap one... roll... at a time.... ETA: And I see Birch operates by a similar philosophy).
Callie's with Eltanin on the Elixir of Love -- it's rather squicky by nature and she'd rather be rid of it (as in pour it down the sink rid of it).
(600+500+50+125= 1275/2 = 637.5/6 = 106.25 +100 from the sacks makes it 206gp 2sp 6cp OK?)
BTW, happy for you to round up to the nearest gp when you do the sums - so on this occasion 207gp...
Apologies for the delays...I'm in the middle of a house move and vacation - and the plan to have uninterrupted internet has been dampened by the news I'll have to wait 6-10 working days!
Please hum to yourself until normal service is resumed. I may be able to do some posting from my phone but my data is all on my laptop!
I hope you're not using the same cable provider we had for our move...just over a month before getting hooked up :/
Mmmm....
Yikes. Good luck with the move.
"Still humming, after all these years..."
*Hums the Girl from Ipanema*
*hums elevator music*
Proper internet next Monday but I'll post when and where I can between now and then...
Glad to see you for however long you can post! :)
And then there was wifi! I have the Internet again – thanks so much for your patience…
In case you're wondering (you probably weren't to be honest) the AP calls for a sort of chase game right now - which probably works really well around a table. I've experienced it once on the boards and it took us three weeks to get half-way across a bridge before the GM gave up. I've taken the coward's route and given up before we started, so I'll RP the chase as best I can...
That's cool--and I don't think it's a coward's route. Looking at the Chase system in the GameMastery guide--which I presume is also the system or one similar to the one suggested in CoCT--it's a cool idea, but it is initiative-based, which itself is guaranteed to slow things down on the boards. The other major flaw is that it does not give good options for failure. "To get past this part you must succeed a DC 25 Acrobatics check" -- fine, but, if it's a, for example, typical 3rd level party, probably only your skill monkey MIGHT succeed on that. By the rules, the rest of the party could get easily mired--and then what? Are there other ways around? A lot of times these systems seem to presume ultimate success for the party and don't give the GM many options for what happens when things just go totally unexpectedly, and different GMs handle on the fly adjustments differently.
Obviously if we fail, she gets away--and I'm okay with that. I've left her a note and we can have Majenko follow her as needed.
One thing if you do want to get some skill checks in to at least give a sense of peril and difficulty ---- I am totally okay with you rolling FOR me in the interests of speed. E.g., if Callie needs an Acrobatics check to jump a roof, you can make it rather than wait for me to log on.
Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes I do roll for you - it's better than waiting a few days whilst I ask you all to roll for something like Perception (in much the same way it makes sense for me to roll Initiatives).
So I assume it's 3,000 for all of us total. And I don't think we have to spend all the credit now.
But I wasn't kidding about the buckets of holy water--I'm thinking at least a few vials of that wouldn't be a bad idea--I mean, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but I hear "necromancer" and "graveyard" and assume undead encounters are likely. A wand of cure light wounds wouldn't be a bad idea--could both heal us and hurt any undead we come across. (Unless Gwernach already has one?)
All of the above is available if you want it. And yes, it's 3,000 between you.
Hope our cleric is ready to slam the channel button.
I wonder if our necromancer favors zombies or skeletons? Oh well, Roran has both types of weapon for the situation.
Gwernach does already have a wand of CLW with 49 charges. He's not a very capable channeller so let's keep that in mind. For 1,650gp and GM approval, we could procure a NECKLACE OF FIREBALLS (Type I) as a last resort kind of thing. For 750gp, we could get a wand of HIDE FROM UNDEAD or perhaps Gwernach could write up a couple scrolls of the same; as CL3 this will only ward three at a time and need two scrolls + two days to scribe to cover everyone once. A wand could cover everyone for cheaper. If we are going to go with 'bombs' perhaps Eltanin can find us an equivalent to ALChEMIST'S FIRE. It's a bit cheaper than Holy Water but more versatile - there will undoubtedly be more than just undead down there and undead burn just as readily as most creatures :)
A direct hit by a flask of holy water deals 2d4 points of damage to an undead creature or an evil outsider. Each such creature within 5 feet of the point where the flask hits takes 1 point of damage from the splash. Temples to good deities sell holy water at cost (making
no profit). Holy water is made using the bless water spell.
I suggest: Necklace of Fireballs (1,650gp), Wand of Hide from Undead (750gp), Alchemist's Fire x5 (100gp), Holy Water x8 (200gp) totaling 2,700gp
Gwernach would also like to take at least one day to prepare as well - adjust his spells and perhaps scribe at least one scroll.
Bring on the horde. I took cleave.
With all due respect, those items sound questionable. 3 scrolls of Fireball would total 1125, and all three would be 5d6, rather than 1 5d6 and 2 3d6. Either way, it's a big investment for a one-shot item. There is the issue of not having a wizard, but someone has UMD, right?
Hide from Undead in a wand would far more expensive than a scroll, especially for something we won't cast 50 times. A scroll of CL 3 HfU would only cost 75 gold to buy, and half that to craft, and even then, it's only useful as an escape mechanism, because if you attack anyone, even non-undead, the effect of the spell ends. We certainly can't just kill the necromancer and flee, and leave a bunch of undead milling about.
Holy water and Alchemist's fire, for 25 and 20 GP a pop, don't actually do that much damage. 2d4, and 1d6 (for 2 rounds) damage is not all that impressive when I do 2d4+9, and Roran does 2d6+13. When you consider we both have cleave, I wonder about how effective they really are. I'd use them for sure if we happened to find some, but I don't know how wise an investment it would to buy any.
If I had my way, I'd have us divvy up the credit line, and I'd cash out for my 500 GP, which would put me at just enough to buy a +1 Falchion I've saving up for it. If you would like to buy holy water and the like with your allotment, that's your business, but I know what I'd prefer to purchase.
I dunno, just thinking out loud here.
2d4, and 1d6 (for 2 rounds) damage is not all that impressive when I do 2d4+9, and Roran does 2d6+13.
*feels left-out*
I actually like the necklace of fireballs idea--given that no one in the party is actually capable of casting from a scroll of same (it is not on bard, alchemist, or cleric spell list, and Callie and Eltanin don't have UMD trained). It could come in handy in a number of scenarios beyond the current one as well---because the point is, we DON'T have a lot of area of effect damage stuff between us, save in specific circumstances (Gwernach's channel).
I like Holy Water as it's relatively cheap and is a good backup--I was presuming its use for the NON-melee powerhouses in the group. :) I think Eltanin also gets a bonus to its damage from Throw Anything. It can also serve useful story purposes as well (helping reconsecrate areas and such). But I can certainly see what I can purchase from my personal funds in that regard. Eltanin may have the best thoughts on what might be nice to have alchemically.
I agree with Wilthorn, however, on the hide from undead -- I really don't think it would be worth the cost. The spell itself may be useful, but not 50 of the spell. I suggested the wand of CLW because it not only hurts undead but is also of course a good backup healing device both Gwernach and I can use. I won't insist on it either, but it tends to be a standard party early purchase for a reason.
I have no problem if anyone wants to use some of the chunk of money to upgrade weapons. While I'd like a +1 sword by 4th level, I think I'm okay for now (I have arcane strike to help bypass DR) but I am always for what's for the best for the party -- and setting aside 500 to help Wilthorn get a magical sword is fine with me. If EVERYONE wants one they'll have to duke out how to split it up.
2d4, and 1d6 (for 2 rounds) damage is not all that impressive when I do 2d4+9, and Roran does 2d6+13.*feels left-out*
And Valeria does 1d8+1d3+8! (We need to get you a shield of bashing to make that 1d8+1d6...)
I'm keeping Roran's build about as simple as you can get it. Full plate, biggest greatsword he can get, belts of strength and other items of moar damage. That being said, there is nothing at the current price that interests me without taking at least 2/3 of the entire loot pile. I have also recently acquired this very nice set of full plate, so I'm fine with getting no loot for myself.
Although overall, aren't we under WBL? Interest, I wonder if we've been ineffective at looting.
I've shared everything the AP has said and generally upped it due to the number of characters. My plan was always to take stock at the end of the book - see what a new PC would get and then work out what you've received. Then I can make up the difference somehow.
There is far less dungeon-crawling in this chapter than many Paizo modules, so this may have something to do with it?
If anyone wants to do the sums now - based on Level 4 (which you'll be by the end of the book) - I won't object.
Ah right, high number of PCs. That would make sense. Just curious was all.
I can't afford a +1 axe yet, so I guess I'll be waiting another level or so. And a shield of bashing would be nice, but even more expensive. >.>
Also, just letting you know I won't be posting much for the next couple of days. Tomorrow I'm running back-to-back PFS slots at a local convention, and the day after is my birthday, so I'll have family stuff going on. Try not to move too far without me!
Happy Birthday Val! Perhaps a new battleaxe will be in the cards soon!
Everyone else, some excellent points, thanks :) With the consensus leaning towards just dividing it all up, lets do that. 3,000 six ways is 500 so add that to your inventories and do some shopping!
I look forward to seeing Wilthorn's new sword in action ;)
@Callie, I think Gwernach has enough to pick up the necklace. I can't think of any urgent updates to his armor or weapons so I am inclined to purchase it. I will leave any other undead items up to you to work out with Eltanin.
@GM as long it is alright with you, Gwernach will purchase a Type I NECKLACE OF FIREBALLS
Sounds good to me. If you need a little help on the necklace, let me know.
I need to decide whether I will get the wand of CLW or an assortment of things.
Thanks for the offer, but I'll be fine. Two wands of CLW might be excessive - we'd purchased one already :)
Oh, I didn't see it on anyone's equipment list. Who is carrying it?
I am :) under Magic Items.
Ah, I didn't see you had it separate from equipment. Good to know. :)
In light of the "golems" revelation I think I'll get just a few vials of holy water (4 for 100 gp) -- never hurts to have on hand and save the rest for later. I think I can get a mithral shirt soon but don't need it yet. If Eltanin needs donations toward alchemical gear or an alchemist's lab I am happy to contribute as well.
God I hate golems. They're just unkillable bastards.
Once a high level party I ran was having tremendous trouble dealing with some powerful golems, using their normal high level fighting tactics (which involves a lot of magic golems are immune to, as well as the rogue/shadowdancer's sneak attack which golems are also immune to). Finally, they got clever, and a grease spell on a staircase later....
Well, that alone didn't kill the golem, but it sure as hell helped. (Even high CR golems tend to have lousy Reflex saves, and spells like grease don't have Spell Resistance apply to them, which means Magic Immunity doesn't apply either). The moral of the story is sometimes it either takes straight up battering or just using approaches you normally wouldn't consider for other creatures.
I think I can say that without encouraging metagaming. :)
Luckily Roran would be one of the few fighter types who is actually decent against golems, since his "one big hit" style of attacks does well against DR.
Also golems are no longer immune to precision damage in Pathfinder. Very smart choice IMHO.
You're right... I think the rogue's concern, now that I think of it, is that the golem had a high enough to-hit he was actually in danger of being hit. ;) (Pussy halfling rogues ;) ;) ;) )
If Gwernach mentions admantine as being effective against golems, I'll pick up some weapon blanch.
Otherwise, well, I guess I'll stick to my role of holding doors, since I don't have the luxury of the "one big hit" style. *sigh*
Don't worry Val, Roran is just at a high point in his power right now. Trust me, at level 6 you'll have more damage than me.
Your style will also pay off with other kinds of enemies. And if we get you some weapon blanch, you don't have to worry about DR, hopefully.
I have 500-ish of my own gold and 500 credit. I'm going to buy six vials of adamantine weapon blanch, one vial for each of us, plus four vials of holy water (never hurts). That's 700 gp--if the 10% discount applies, 630 gp?
The discount applies.
I'll go half in. Unless someone else wants to join that split, that's 315 a piece.
Thanks, Eltanin.
It would be helpful if folks who don't have anything to say IC would still check in and say they're here/ready to go from time to time so we know people just haven't disappeared. We WERE asked to try to post once a day, and I figure folks could do that in the OOC thread even if not in the IC. I realize I haven't done that either, mind.
I'll presume the items purchased, and as I said exactly a week ago, I am ready to move forward when everyone else is.
I've been reading along, but life's been getting me down again. I guess I've been waiting for this to move on, but I should have said something. My apologies. Maybe a few nights back in my own house will do me good - being away from home does horrors to my head.