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Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines (Inactive)

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

I do hope I am playing a fledgling and my psychosis well enough. I'm trying not to constantly insert it but make sure it shows up often enough and especially vital times. (Mostly high emotional times)
5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 29/40 | Willpower: 8/8

Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:

"Of course, my sire." Lorenzo responds.

I would assume the downtime is complete from here unless you have more that needs to be played out (such as Yeti's choice)

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Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:
Yes, downtime complete. Yeti is still considering what he wants to do. Part of the issue is that he is not sure his Sire would respond to a summons nor is he comfortable with teaching secrets without his Sire's approval. A bit of a catch 22 for him...
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

I'm just hoping Lex overlooks the gnat in favor of the hornet.
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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
I'm just hoping Lex overlooks the gnat in favor of the hornet.

So you think that Alexander will focus on Robin Leeland then? :-)

Well i am back, the tournement was a blast :)
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Any hornet.
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Finn Garrety wrote:
Well i am back, the tournement was a blast :)

What was the tournament?

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I will hold there for the moment.
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
What was the tournament?

Single Player Warhammer 40k Tournement. I just got back to playing the game in feb after a 15 year hiatus...

The big Team tournement arent until december

Thought you guys were due a post, even though I didn't do, or say anything....
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Long day at work today and a ridiculous s~+@ commute home has resulted in no desire to think through and update the thread.

Will update tomorrow.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Rest up and chillax.
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Spent that last hour packing as I am moving next week. During that week my posting will be spotty.
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Couple of very busy days including today.

I have D&D table top tonight, I expect to post again Saturday evening.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Alessandro on stand by...
Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Ranerius actually meant what he said more to the Toreador table and room in general to test the waters and if the Prince liked it, so much the better but let me know if I need to attempt some sort of roll so the Prince doesn't stake him ;)
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Ranerius Bernerius wrote:
Ranerius actually meant what he said more to the Toreador table and room in general to test the waters and if the Prince liked it, so much the better but let me know if I need to attempt some sort of roll so the Prince doesn't stake him ;)

No rolls needed, I will let you know if a roll is necessary, I am a big fan of freeform roleplay unrestricted by the luck of the dice or lack thereof.

It was a ballsy point and one which Narses was hoping someone would make :-)

He did not of course expect it to come from a Fledgling! They say the damndest things!
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Ah, then I should slow down on my rolls. I know that roleplay is required and good roleplay is always appreciated but was unsure if I needed to add a roll to what I was trying to do on my various posts.
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Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Ah, then I should slow down on my rolls. I know that roleplay is required and good roleplay is always appreciated but was unsure if I needed to add a roll to what I was trying to do on my various posts.

Tis ok, if you make them i will account for them.

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OK thread is updated, I paused it there to give those at the Conclave a chance to speak.

It seems that the Fledgling's voice will be herd the same as that of the Elder, at least where Narses is concerned...

Finn, I will be getting to you in a few minutes.

I have not heard from Clan Tremere or Clan Nosferatu for a while, I will be advancing their plots without them in a few days if I do not hear anything.

Wow, this thread exploded again lol, time to read
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I will be moving from Wednesday through Sunday.

I will update the thread one more time Wednesday night and then again either Sunday night or Monday.
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OK, I will hod it there for a moment mostly cause I am exhausted.

I may try to post again on Friday morning.

Vitaliano, please ping me re your last post on Friday morning so I do not forget about it.

Thanks.
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Yep yep

Felt like I was due another post.

Though I do have some self and clan interest in the questions I am asking!
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Moving is a lot of work, don't over do it.
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I am overdoing it so I can rest tomorrow :-)
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Alright, I am finally moved in and mostly up and running, time to catch up on my threads, this one I will post an update to Wednesday night.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Cool, been at a conference so... The lull coincided.
Shadow's Status

I feel like s#&! will update friday.
Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Hope you feel better soon. Take care of yourself
Shadow's Status

Feeling a bit better tonight but need to catch up on work.

I will be working late tomorrow and will likely update the thread around 10 PM eastern time tomorrow night.
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Frigging site was down until 20 minutes ago, anyway, I will update tomorrow night, long day at work and I will need an hour to gully update. Sorry for the delay. Good news is I feel better and will be updating tomorrow night.
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Pausing there, will pick it back up tomorrow. Don't want to get too far ahead too fast.
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More tomorrow...

I went ahead and asked the questions in the game thread, but thought the presentations were completed.....
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Is the Inner Circle intended to be based out of Venice?
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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Is the Inner Circle intended to be based out of Venice?

Yes :-)

Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Blarg, playing an insane person is fun but exhausting. Good thing I have my own insanities to draw upon...BWAHAHAHAHA
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Will out together further update tonight Folks and we will get to the Business of how the choosing of Representatives will work! :-)

Finally feeling better and caught up on work.
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I will respond to specific table discussion tomorrow, feeling a bit tired tonight but I will push the plot along.
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I owe a few of you posts but work is kicking my ass, probably will not post again until Friday evening. Narses last comment I believe is vague enough to lead to plenty of questions though :-)

I am waiting to see if any other Salubri show up......that would be like Brian to just not mention it....
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Andrew the Hardy, Lord of Moray wrote:
I am waiting to see if any other Salubri show up......that would be like Brian to just not mention it....

Perhaps there is one here already, we will have to see.... :-)

Will have some updates by Monday night, work was really bad last week.
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Will likely update the thread tomorrow night, a 15 hour day at work is not conducive to clear gaming thoughts.
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Will get back to this over the weekend, been working 15 hour days this week so no time to run a PBP ATM.
Shadow's Status

I will not be able to update the thread until Tuesday night as I need to read through and remember where I was going with much of what we have done lately. It has been so bad lately I even had to cancel my table top D&D session last Friday, something have not done the night of a game since 2007!

This seems like a good lull in the action to reward 1 XP to all players.

Let me know ooc if you have any questions as to what direction we are headed in.
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Just gonna throw this here as you guys are fans of the verse too....

ZOMG WHITE WOLF IS REVIVED
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Alright, tomorrow is Friday night, I will have the thread up and running that night as I will be home form work early and energized to start this up again!

Thanks for your patience!
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