Alexander Kilcoyne |
However, AK - and this bears mentioning should things go South here - the difference between having this fight at 2nd and at 3rd levels is an entire extra d6 on every one of my channels. That's going to be vitally important, I think.
Yup, oh don't worry i've taken these things into account... but fights won't always be fair. Thats why we play an RPG not a tabletop wargame :). You have managed to split their forces with good strategy, your tactics are good and you have NPC's to help tip the scales a little.
I'm looking forward to this immensely *evil grin*.
Marcus Alanto |
Totally advertent really...
Yeah Gwen. If they did something intelligent like just form ranks around the bridge and bring everyone across its a total wipe although I guess we always have the old standby of challenging their leader to single combat. Assuming they're all barbarians they're awfully nasty with this many.
Time for your channeling dice karma to rebalance itself...
Gwenyth |
Yup, oh don't worry i've taken these things into account... but fights won't always be fair.
I know things won't always be fair. In fact, they rarely should be, what's the fun in that, after all? I'm just saying, the difference between 2nd and 3rd level is a huge one for me, personally.
Savarend Whiteroot |
3rd Level - Monk
These changes will, as discussed, take effect when we have a chance to rest. I just happen to have free time right now ;)
+1 BAB
Feat - Stance of the Xorn (Anyone else have suggestions? This is my first time playing a monk.)
Fast Movement (Ex)
Maneuver Training (Ex)
Still Mind (Ex)
+1 Acrobatics
+1 Perception
+1 Sense Motive
+1 Stealth
Alexander Kilcoyne |
Whats that feat and wheres it from?
Edit: Found it. That is quite nice defensively.
Defensive Combat Training makes for a very impressive CMD, netting the extra 5 points to catch up with the high BABer's. CMD is important for any grappling build as its what opponents test against to escape, so that might be a worthy investment.
Weapon Focus (Brass Knuckles)?
Alexander Kilcoyne |
I may have mentioned this to various people on MSN, but I thought i'd make myself clear with some copy-paste-fu.
I am completely swamped with work for university- i'm posting at 6AM after being up all night working on a damn progress report, and I have a paper on security due in a couple of days. I'm stressed, burnt out and exhausted.
Hence my slower post rate- but never fear, for my next deadline is on friday so I imagine i'll be back to normal posting rate on monday, after my melted brain has cooled down once more.
Thanks for your patience, and apologises for the slowdown on my end.
Tun'ada |
In the build I have in mind for Tun'ada there are at least 2 levels of Barbarian (so I can pick up a bite attack, along with the claws) What I am having difficulty with is deciding what to do at level 3.
I'm leaning toward taking the first barbarian level, with my 3rd level feat being extra rage.
My original plan went down the tubes when I remembered Improved Natural Weapon required a +4 BAB, so that will have to wait until level 5, assuming AK let's him live that long.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
Talomyr |
Work out how many rounds of rage you will have with the one and two levels, I often find Extra Rage is just not worth it... YMMV
With the 2 levels of Barbarian that I'm thinking about, he would max out at 7 rounds without the feat (5 rounds at first level), the extra rage would get me to 11 and 13 rounds respectively. In this case, I think it may be worth it.
Chi T'reignial |
For 3rd level, I see Chi taking another level of witch.
I always saw her a a tricky/deceptive witch so take Deception as her patron...
I had always thought I'd take the hex Cauldron and start brewing up some potions, even though it's not so useful long term, I think we could do with some healing potions....I'm open to other opinions...
I hope to take profession(cook), to be in keeping with her background, rather than to be exploited in game.
I'm not seeing the witch build as being overly helpful in straight combat, with the emphasis on deceit. So to use feats to improved perception and disable device or to get extra hex, the hexes in question being one from disguise, flight and tongues, all not being very useful in straight combat.
As I've never built a witch before let alone a witch/rogue build, I'd be interested in comments, and you ideas for spells? This level, I'll probably take spells Mount, Cure Light Wounds plus Ventriloquism(domain). I could learn other witch spells from a scroll, I was hoping for a cure light scroll to learn from, but we haven't got one. Anyway, your ideas are welcome.
Alexander Kilcoyne |
I honestly assumed you were heading for Witch/Rogue/Arcane Trickster.
If that isn't the case, i'd suggest no more than two levels of Rogue- each one is hurting your caster level and a witch is still essentially a full caster.
By the time your level 4 you will be off this island, but taking Cauldron now with the limited resources and downtime may be a mistake. Taking it at 4th or 5th will be more ideal.
Ambroze |
I'm not seeing the witch build as being overly helpful in straight combat, with the emphasis on deceit. So to use feats to improved perception and disable device or to get extra hex, the hexes in question being one from disguise, flight and tongues, all not being very useful in straight combat.
Just a suggestion, but I'd recommend either Cackle or Slumber if you take the Extra Hex feat. Both of your existing hexes can benefit from Cackle, and Slumber is pretty powerful if your target fails their save.
Deevor |
I honestly assumed you were heading for Witch/Rogue/Arcane Trickster.
If that isn't the case, i'd suggest no more than two levels of Rogue- each one is hurting your caster level and a witch is still essentially a full caster.
By the time your level 4 you will be off this island, but taking Cauldron now with the limited resources and downtime may be a mistake. Taking it at 4th or 5th will be more ideal.
Yep, my thoughts entirely about the rogue levels, still undecided whether to take a second level in rogue...originally thought it would be the next level, but not so sure now.
Marcus Alanto |
Slumber is just great and seems thematic for Chi. We cant fight vermin forever.
I like misfortune as well especially with cackle (and the two seem quite a combo with the evil eye she already has).
As above don't really see the benefit of more rogue levels unless your going trickster. How do you see Chi at say level 8?
Deevor |
I think Chi will go, cackle and misfortune or slumber, which seems a more common witch build...the more I think of it. I originally wanted the next rogue level for the extra +1 to hit, +1 reflex save and a rogue talent, like trap spotter....but not sure whether to forgo that and just do witch. I kinda see her as being good with traps, as part of her armory of survival, she would have learnt as a child with her tribe, and it might help the group more. The main problem with taking another rogue level, is that it means Chi is get new spell levels after a pure witch, but it probably doesn't make so much difference between lvl 18 and 19, which is just 1 lvl 9 spell.
Looking at Arcane Trickster, It might be something to consider, as the thing the build looses are hexes, although a 3rd level of rogue is required...So many choices...
Next feat will be to add Sharp Senses ...or Alertness...for increased perception...and then maybe increase disable device...hmmm!
Alexander Kilcoyne |
To be honest your best bet for increasing her aptitude as danger senser would be-
A second level of Rogue.
Take the 'Trap Spotter' rogue talent so you'll always get a passive roll from me :).
And for increasing perception, nothing beats a good ol' skill focus. Ask old Tun'ada over there.
I will say, having taken the one level dip, you definitely want the second level for evasion and rogue talent.
Chi T'reignial |
Umm...we're a bit light on action at the moment....still lots of Christmas games to be played on consoles first I guess...that or still recovering from the mass of turkey eaten...
Looking forward to getting back into the swing of things...yea oh yea!
Lord oKOyA |
If it makes you feel any better*, it seems to be a board wide trend. Those that I am participating in, and those that I am lurking, all seem to be suffering slow downs post holidays.
Hopefully things will get back on track for everyone soon.
Cheers
*I'm sure it doesn't, but hey, I'm trying... ;)