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@haruhiko / Nover - what items did you gain from your starting infamy acquisitions? As an Iron Warrior, a solid plasma or melta weapon could be a wise choice.
Hmm, didn't take a look at that, I have got to get to my books and I completely forgot about that. Probably a melta weapon.
Darn, I can't get a Legion Melta weapon... but if the GM approves could I perhaps get a Best Quality Legion Flamer? I have the Ancient Warrior trait so I treat Legion weapons as one step lower. It would be a reliable, never jamming, I see it I burn it close range weapon.
You may take the flamer.
Unfortunately, it seems the rest of our group has not posted yet. I will give them until we make planet fall to make themselves known aboard the Malevolent Savior. Otherwise I will be forced to count them as lost to the warp.
Has this game just died as it began?
I hope it hasn't
Sorry, had an unexpected work crisis, through off my timing.
Nover, your infamy bonus is 2, so you get 2 special items from acquisitions, each with a total modifier of -10. So the Best craftsmanship Flamer, and then a Legion Meltagun if you want (yes, you do qualify for it - see below).
Legion Meltagun: starts as extremely rare (-30), but Ancient Warrior reduces it to very rare (-20), then for Amount: Single it is reduced by a further 10, making it a -10.
Legion Flamer: starts as scarce (0), Ancient Warrior reduces it to average (+10), Amount: Single increases it another 10 (+20), Best Craftsmanship reduces it by 20 (0), and you still have space for an upgrade to it. Maybe our GM will give you a couple cans of High Grade Promethium to use it up.
I've always been on the gm side of the screen when my group played warhammer fantasy, I haven't played in the 40k universe.
I was also hoping to get some ammo for the weapon as well, while having a meltagun would be awesome having a meltagun sans ammo would not be fun.
Ammo section of Black Crusade: CRB offers the rule of 3 - simply stating that you can start with three loads of ammo for a weapon. Now, depending on how long we are planetside, that could become an issue. But as we are being dispatched by Abaddon himself, perhaps we can get a boost of ammo.
Ah, very nice, I think I will aquire that Legion Meltagun then. That or a legion shotgun and all the ammo I will ever need... Ever.
Did anyone else create a human heretic as well? If so, how are we going to get them involved? Are they being deployed with us, or will they be recruited on planet? Just want to know if/when I should introduce Wraxus.
@Taalik: In fact have him be the heretic that is sent to summon you from your chambers, introduce him that way.
Should I just build my heretic?
You don't HAVE to make a heretic. Its just as you know you will be hiding out alot as a CSM until night. So you won't be able to post as much. So the heretics are nice for a filler for day and possibly even night.
Well, I have been working on a Heretek that specializes in weapons mongering. In theory he could start a black market for weapons that either he builds or acquires through other trades. Possibly setting gangs or rival groups against each other. I don't know enough about the warhammer universe to make an apostate, although I could build a renegade.
A couple pieces of rare gear Taalik-Amun will have tried to acquire on the battleship prior to be dispatched planetside.
I will take 1 out of 3, though the refractor field probably would've been the best for survivalibity.
How many clips of ammo do we start with? Are things like frag & krak grenades readily available?
I think I'll be good with just the flamethrower, maybe a few grenades and a shotgun.
Legion Frag Grenade - Infamy 25 + Average 10 + 0 (2-4)
Legion Shotgun: Infamy + Plentiful 25 + Single Item 10
I will have to say yes to Frag grenades being readily available as they're easy to find off of dead Imperial Guardsman.
You may roll for up to 5 pieces of additional gear to bring with you. Same modifiers apply and you can only get items -10 or above. Taalik you have rolled for 3 already I see. Nover you roll only once, because the grenades are available for free. I actually would like to revise what I said before about the flamethrower. If you could go ahead and roll for that as well.
Alright so you have 5 slots to fill before this mission. So say you really really want this weapon but its modifier turns out to be -20 at the end. You can simply expend another slot to increase the modifier by -10.
So for that one weapon you would have used two slots but had an increased chance of getting it. There is no limit on the amount of slots you can expend to get a single piece of wargear. Just no even if you fail the roll to get something, you still used up a slot
I'll answer any questions if I was unclear about this
Based on his Infamy, Nover should get 2 items at up to -10 each automatically (no roll) as part of his character creation. So he could get the flamer and something else with those two, then still have 4 rolls left to attempt.
Would scavenged grenades then be human grenades rather than legion grenades for statistical effects (damage)?
Scavenged Grenades are human for DMG effects however you may choose to take up a slot for character creation with no roll, or attempt to roll for it with your 5 attempts to get LEGION grenades. Frag or Krak.
On some rolls I don't see a quality modifier for your acquisitions, is that normal in black crusade?
Edit, probably just means common quality..
Okay, the rest of my acquisition rolls for both characters.
Remaining Acquisition Rolls for Taalik-Amun:
Acquisition Rolls for Wraxus Drake:
I can think of a lot of gear I want, but the only gear I think I might really need would be a shield. Let's see if I can get one. I'm using 2 rolls for it because I want that +25% to parry, and one longshot for a best quality data slate.
So 25+10 (my extra rerolls)+10 (single item). DC 45
So 25+10 (Single Item)+20 Common - 20 Quality. DC 35
Okay so I have a very nice shield, and of course a very nice data slate which will be used for developing strategies. I wonder what might have been left on it.
Alright guys when your ready please post a list of all items rolled for or otherwise for your character. That is your final draft of items carried.
Nover has been updated with all of his equipment. If you'd like I can post a list of my equipment in the discussion tab.
Recoil Gloves
Common +20, Single +10, + Infamy 24
Cameleoline Cloak
Rare -10, Single +10 + Infamy 24
Combi Tool
Rare -10, Single +10 + Infamy 24
Got the first two, but no combi tool. Maybe I can find one on the ship.
This is Cyberius' alias that'll be the CSM.
I've got my equipment list pretty complete, just need to figure out the armourer trade thing and it should be complete.
Samsun, the DM is allowing us acquisition tests for up to five items. You used three, so you have two more.
Sorry, my heretek is up and will be running a few, I just need to make my first post in gameplay and I'll be fine.
Starting Acquisitions from infamy: Guard Flak Armor, Mechanicus Assimilation 1.
EDIT: Didn't realize I started with light carapace armor, I will change my Guard Flak Armor to a Carapace Helm.
Acquisition rolls
No
24 + 4 rolls into one for +30% +30 % plentiful - 40 for Legions worth. I have enough to start a lot of gang wars on Rheelas with this.
Combi Tool
Rare -10, Single +10, Infamy +24
MIU
Rare -10, Single +10, Good Quality +10 Infamy +24
Sweet got them both, should be Good Quality -10, not +10.
Cyberius you realize a big part of getting to Rheelas will be in the Jungle. Do you wanna carry 1000 shotguns through the jungle?
Oh no, that was me, figured we could go back for them later or steal a truck. I mean I have nothing else I really really want other than various amounts of trade goods. Baelir's pride is wealth, and material objects are a large part of it. Unless the Imperium has some form of currency I could use instead.
Thank you Taalik, I forgot my power armor customization I start with. Once again never played Black Crusade.
Chain Loinguard for me
So before I asked about taking the trade armourer but didn't get a reply...Been doing more reading so I've got a few questions and suggestions.
I'm just getting into space marine literature trying to come up with my back story and I want to be from the Salamander Chapter with your approval. I know that'll alter my appearance some and I'll take that into account if need be. Also, it goes well with Path choices like Craftsmanship and Greed, got some good ideas for the story. Not sure if you know of them...but I'm sure you do, then you'll know their forgery background and trials etc. I'm wondering about replacing my knife with the "Forge Hammer" which I read about Salamanders doing in the "Index Astratas Vol. 1" pdf (if you don't have that I'll send it to you..)Not sure if I need to say more, you might already know this stuff...It's all new to me :)If other things are applicable to Chaos Space marines from that Index let me know, but it seemed like things for another game...Good read though, learned about the Iron Hands, which is the chapter of the other marine in our party I believe.
Basically Salamanders carry forge hammers instead of knives, not really more powerful, (1d10, Pen 4 I think..you could alter)but gives +10 to crafting, repairing, etc. I plan to take the armour monger eventually and habitually be tweaking and maintaining armour and weapons, like the scavenged noise blaster. Pursuing my path of craftsmanship, greed, and my Salamander roots. My purpose is hoarding, building, modding, etc. Perhaps I'm exceptional or just adequate at it. Up to you.
Short background intro, just some thoughts, let me know if its ok, and I'll flush out more details:
As a young boy in the Salamander chapter, we were taught from the age of 6 to build and maintain weapons, I became a great soldier among the ranks, but my greed got the best of me. Additionally I wanted to learn more about xeno tech and archeotech and maybe that didn't sit well, heretical crafting, obsessed with tech outside the chapter and Adaptus Mechanicus... I left or was banished? Something to do with my greed, perhaps in pursuit of something, or left b/c I refused to give something up.. Not sure about Marines and how they do things. Yet.
As a final thought on the remainder 400xp:
As Im reading, it seems tech-use skill is what's ued for crafting, maybe I don't need armourer trade? But then there's the prerequisite and I read through the errata and theres a mention about this dilemma and Armour monger..I still can't find a purchase for it...IF it were 100xp for example, then I'd buy Armour Monger for 300xp, if that's not possible or buying the trade is more expensive, then I'll probably just use the XP for Tech-use +20 at 400xp. Up to you. Maybe I don't even need the trade...
BTW, I know this came up in the recruitment thread, thats where I brought it up. You said that you believe Tech Use is only Repair, but from what i read on Pg. 94 of Crafting, You can use Chem, Survival, or Tech-Use.
From page 94.
Tech-Use:This Skill allows a character to create complex or technical devices such as those commonly created within the
forges of Imperial worlds. With the GM’s permission any weapon, armour, explosive or piece of tech can be created using this
Skill. However, unlike Survival and Chem-Use, many items created using this Skill are fiendishly complex or their design a
closely guarded secret and are only available to character with the right knowledge and access to advanced workshops
You said I wouldn't need to purchase the trade in recruitment thread, but that means I couldn't ever get possibly craft and/or buy Armour Monger. That's ok, maybe its only meant for the Heretek or something...If that's the case, just let me know and I'll drop it.
I know the salamander has some unique armor and mantles etc, in my background I lost those or they were destroyed, I had to rebuild my current armor from scratch...Maybe lost my forge hammer too, could be something I'm looking for or trying to construct in the future if I can't switchout my knife now.
Unfortunately, from a turn of events in RL I won't have time to continue this campaign unfortunately. I will hopefully get it started again much later. Again, sorry.
Well sir, I am terribly sorry to hear that. I hope you are safe and all your family is well. Hopefully it is just work getting busy.
To those other players, I might be willing to run a 40k game. I have the most experience with Dark Heresy, though also have the rulebooks for Black Crusade/Deathwatch/Only War/Rogue Trader. I would likely run an updated DH, with some of the newer rules from the other games to tighten it up a bit.
Thoughts? Interest?
Yea, I'd be down for any 40k game, that's why I joined this site. There was plenty interest here for 40k games, a RT game was just started before I joined this game. I've never played DH, but it'd be fun. I've never played, mostly just RT.