
Daniel Penfold 357 |
Looking for 2 more players to join our game - we are about 1/4 of the way through book 2.
Any class/race considered - see previous posts in this thread for full specs.
All we ask is that if you do join you try and post every 1-2 days minimum. If you can't that's fine provided you let us know in advance so we can keep the game moving.

oyzar |

I would like to throw my hat in the ring. I'm thinking a Virtuous Bravo Paladin of Shelyn with VMC Cavalier (order of the star). Do you allow VMC and would you allow order of the star to stack with paladin for lay on hands? Also could I combine the Bladed Brush feat with Slashing Grace for dex to damage with a glaive? For race I'm thinking Museborn Aasimar or halfling...
The character would certainly be able to fill the tank role. Though it seems hard to fulfill all 3 of those requirements with just 2 people. Though I guess you could have something like a caster rogue, an arcane trickster or seeker sorcerer. Or perhaps a tank rogue of some sort.
I've kinda been wanting to build an arcane trickster for some time. There are multiple ways to go about that. I guess I could take one level of rogue then into wizard. Another way involves VMC rogue and retraining the first level class that granted sneak attack once you get to level 7. Would that be ok? Would it be feasible in this game or is there no time for retraining?
What level would this be for and what gold would we start with?

oyzar |

VMC strands for variant multiclass. It's a ruleset that let you trade half your feats for a set of class abilities for a given class. You can find more information on this page: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement/
With the variant multiclass rogue option I would eventually get enough sneak attack that I wouldn't need a level of a class granting sneak attack to qualify. Though it only makes sense to go this route if I can then retrain. Do you think there will be time for retraining in this campaign (and do you even allow those rules?).

oyzar |

Ok, then I'll skip on the VMC idea, without retraining I think it gives up too much for the trickster idea.
I'm thinking to combine one level of a class that grants sneak attack with the feat Accomplished Sneak attacker in order to qualify for arcane trickster. One option is of course unchained rogue with regular trapfinding. Another option is alchemist with the vivisectionist archetype. That would normally leave me without trapfinding, but I could take the Vaultbreaker archtype. Though I wonder, can I combine those https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo-al chemist-archetypes/vivisectionist/ and https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo-al chemist-archetypes/vaultbreaker-alchemist-archetype/ (and also I would like to take https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo-al chemist-archetypes/crimson-chymist-alchemist-archetype/ but that isn't necessary for the idea to work)? And if I do so, could I use the vaultbreaker's Penetrating Charge ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/discoveries/paizo-a lchemist-discoveries/penetrating-charge/ ) despite not having the bomb feature?
Hope it's not too much troubles with the various archetypes. I could just go unchained rogue for the first level if that's easier for you.

oyzar |

Do you allow spells like blur to let you use stealth? The rules for stealth says "If people are observing you using any of their senses (but typically sight), you can't use Stealth. Against most creatures, finding cover or concealment allows you to use Stealth." And blur does grant concealment. Some say this only applies to dim light or darker though.
If I can't use blur I'll just have to use magical fog and walls or the like to hide. But it would impact my spell selection quite a bit as well as actual tactics depending on if this works or not.
I'm starting with scribe scroll. Can I craft half price scrolls for my starting money? Since they are consumables it won't really affect my effective gear value much.

Creeden Nash |

Are you folks still looking for a front-liner? If so, this is my submission.
Creeden Nash, reformed barfighter.
(Halfling Brawler 4)
Creeden Nash had never stumbled into a tavern brawl that he didn't like, or a tavern for that matter. In his opinion, there was nothing like several cold ales followed by a good knee to the groin. Many were the mornings when he woke up in a dank back alley or filthy gutter with little recollection of the night before.
All of that changed one day when, after being shanked and left for dead after a particularly nasty encounter, Creeden was saved and healed by a cleric of Irori. Grateful, and shocked by his near-deadly encounter, Creeden resolved to clean up his life and investigate more worthy pursuits. Just days later, he had the chance to test his resolve. As he wandering past one of his favorite taverns, resisting the call of temptation, he heard the tell-tale sounds of a mugging happening nearby. Instead of going inside, he hurried to the rescue of the victim, who happened to be Professor Lorrimor!
Creeden was sad when he learned of the man's death, as he interpreted their chance encounter with an intervention from Irori himself--a test of his resolution on his road to self-improvement.

Oniwaban |

Hm. Since there's a rogue and a tank now... I guess I'll give a shot at an offensive spellcaster (which is rad, because it's a class I never play, so I'm glad to give it a shot). I've been playing PF for nearly a decade now, and I've never rolled a wiz or sorc... any suggestions or ideas are welcome.

Oniwaban |

Here are two basic ideas... if anyone spots anything I did wrong, or has any ideas, I am open! Mostly looking for any "You can't do that, dummy!" or "Why did you not do <insert obvious thing that EVERYONE knows about arcane casters>?"
1/2 elf Wiz level 4
STR 12
DEX 14
CON 14
INT 18
WIS 13
CHA 12
HP (to be rolled)
AC 14
T 13
FF 12
F 3
R 3
W 5
Init +2
Mwk. Light Crossbow +5, 1d8, 19-20/x2
Ray +4
Ranged Touch +4
Touch +3
Skills - Appraise +8, Fly +7, Kn. Arcana +11, Kn. Dung. +9, Kn. History +8, Kn. Local +8, Kn. Nature +8, Kn. Planes +9, Kn. Religion +8, Linguistics +9, Perception +8, Spellcraft +11
Feats - Arcane Strike, Extend Spell
Spells - (Haven't determined yet, but it'll be mostly offensive)
Bond - Familiar - Hawk
Gear
Mwk. Light Crossbow
Ring of Prot. +1
Bracers of Armor +1
Pearl of Power - 1st level, x2
Human male, Sorc 4 (Efreeti Bloodline)
STR 10
DEX 16
CON 13
INT 13
WIS 10
CHA 18
HP (to be rolled)
AC 17
T 15
FF 13
CMB 2
CMD 16
F 2
R 4
W 4
Init +3
Mwk. Light Crossbow, +6, 1d8, 19-20/x2
Ranged Touch +5
Ray +5
Touch +2
Skills - Fly +8, Intimidate +11, Kn. Arcana +6, Profession (Soldier) +4, Spellcraft +6, UMD +11
Feats - Arcane Strike, Rapid Reload (Light Crossbow), Dodge
Spells
0 - Daze, RM, DM, Mending, Spark, Prestidigitation
1 - Grease, Burning Hands, Mage Armor, Gravity Bow, Magic Missile
2 - Flaming Sphere
Fire Ray (7x/day) Ranged touch within 30 ft., 1d6+2 damage
Gear
Mwk. Light Crossbow
Bracers of Armor +1
Ring of Protection +1
Amulet of Nat. Armor +1

oyzar |

Uh, the character I'm building will be a wizard as well, just a single level of alchemist in order to qualify for arcane trickster... But two full casters can certainly be in the same party, though there could be some overlap.
I'll be taking evocation school and using plenty of rays as well as illusion for defense, though other buffs and a few other offensive spells as well.

Oniwaban |

Uh, the character I'm building will be a wizard as well, just a single level of alchemist in order to qualify for arcane trickster... But two full casters can certainly be in the same party, though there could be some overlap.
I am happy to create something else, if needed. I assumed you were trying to fill in the rogue niche by being an arcane trickster, and I am instead trying to fill in the offensive caster role mentioned above. But I am not married to it, and can fill in whatever is needed. :D

oyzar |

I am happy to create something else, if needed. I assumed you were trying to fill in the rogue niche by being an arcane trickster, and I am instead trying to fill in the offensive caster role mentioned above. But I am not married to it, and can fill in whatever is needed. :D
I was honestly trying to fill both roles. Arcane Trickster is a full spellcasting progression prestige class. I would lose one level to qualify though, which makes my progression kinda like a sorcerer.
Make what you want. I see that one of the players have said they wouldn't mind having two full casters (either divine or arcane). I'll be having conjuration as a banned school, so if you focus on such spells we won't overlap much at all.