Agents of the Darklands: A Campaign for Monsters and Madmen

Game Master thunderbeard

I can also port at will. I think that's like half the party lol

Fun fact: As far as I can tell, the best way to fight ethereal creatures at low levels is with Blink. But a smart caster has no time for personal-range buffs, and thus nobody in the party seems to know it.

And your summoner is probably too shaken up right now to conjure any blink dogs. ;)

I can't believe I don't have that spell…

Ok, that's my magic shop order. One scroll of blink.

So with blink 80% chance to hit ethereal creatures if that's what you're aiming for?

With the scroll I can put it in my spell book. I have two empty 1st level slots. As soon as I copy the scroll I can spend 15 minutes memorizing it.

Then I can spend 4ish hours making a magic item that can cast it at will, for one round per activation. Normally an item like that would be all but useless and not worth the action economy, but for this it works perfectly and will be a lot cheaper than the number of times I'd have to cast blink in order to do 200+ HP worth of damage to an etherial creature.

I think I can even make the item usable after this instance.

GM, would you be fine with an at-will wonderous item that casts Blink for 1 round?

Blink is 3rd level.

Though not expressly stated I paid the scribing costs of every spell level 4 and below via purchase of a blessed book. The assumption I'm working under isn't that I dont have every spell, but I would have collected all the spells that I might have some interest in ever casting.

Being immortal and nigh unkillable would facilitate taking risks to steal a rivals spell book should I think they had anything worth taking.

Long story short I may have the spell in my book. Of course it will only exist until I return I end the astral projection spell and return to my body.

*blinks*

For some reason I was thinking of Blur.

Well that makes it slightly more expensive and time consuming to craft the item, but I think it will still work. I might need to cut some corners somewhere but I'll figure it out.

Also means that the minimum number of rounds will be 5 instead of 1.

Or you could buy a potion of blink and have a meleer land an average of 4 coup de grace's on the target.

I'll probably get myself a x4 crit modifer weapon too. I'm also a good choice if he happens to have any ethereal guardians, as I'm likely to survive for 5 rounds, and wouldn't mind my back up character. :P

Maybe secure this drow and offer me as payment for our lives spared.

I dont' want it dead. The corpse will be stuck in the ethereal plane. I want the body.

My plan is to use blink to just put my hand on it until it's about dead (and probably paralyzed since its bound to roll a 1 at some point) then let the blink wear off and kill the host.

It will materialize in the circle and I'll kill it here.

Then I'll raise it as one hell of a nasty minion.

Maybe secure this drow and offer me as payment for our lives spared.

I suspect that ship has sailed. I imagine the dragon thinks of this minion as disposable. At most we broke his tool. What value does it have if it clearly can't perform it's function?

The dragon thinks of pretty much everything as disposable, including himself.

That pretty much sums up his whole motivation and personality, actually.

EDIT: oh, you mean the *other* dragon.

The dragon thinks of pretty much everything as disposable, including himself.

That pretty much sums up his whole motivation and personality, actually.

EDIT: oh, you mean the *other* dragon.

The REAL dragon. :-)

Anaxian wrote:

The dragon thinks of pretty much everything as disposable, including himself.

That pretty much sums up his whole motivation and personality, actually.

EDIT: oh, you mean the *other* dragon.

The REAL dragon. :-)

Let's just say that way back when I planned this, the Crimson Stranger had a plot-driven motivation to want to hire a dracolich as part of this group.

Meanwhile, I'll get on updating that gameplay.

Meredian Adriatnaic wrote:

Anaxian wrote:

The dragon thinks of pretty much everything as disposable, including himself.

That pretty much sums up his whole motivation and personality, actually.

EDIT: oh, you mean the *other* dragon.

The REAL dragon. :-)

Let's just say that way back when I planned this, the Crimson Stranger had a plot-driven motivation to want to hire a dracolich as part of this group.

Meanwhile, I'll get on updating that gameplay.

Makes sense.

Hey, Anaxian is a real dragon to me! :p

D'aw

Hmm. Making an item isn't going to work either. It will take too much time. I don't have two weeks to craft things.

So, I think I'll have to rely on paralysis to get the body.

Here's my plan-

Finish the outer binding circle to bind it twice, scribe scroll into spell book, rest, memorize nothing but Blink in my 3rd level slots, and use my touch attack to try to paralyze the demon. If it rolls a 4 or lower on any of its saves it will be paralyzed permanently. (I'll have 28 rounds worth of blink. statistically it should work)

Kill the host. Let Zhu eat it's brain as soon as it materializes.

Anyone spot any holes in this plan?

I spot a hole... in its skull lol

Hmm. Making an item isn't going to work either. It will take too much time. I don't have two weeks to craft things.

So, I think I'll have to rely on paralysis to get the body.

Here's my plan-

Finish the outer binding circle to bind it twice, scribe scroll into spell book, rest, memorize nothing but Blink in my 3rd level slots, and use my touch attack to try to paralyze the demon. If it rolls a 4 or lower on any of its saves it will be paralyzed permanently. (I'll have 28 rounds worth of blink. statistically it should work)

Kill the host. Let Zhu eat it's brain as soon as it materializes.

Anyone spot any holes in this plan?

I can memorize blink as well if it helps. In wizard and/or cleric slots.

Blink is a Personal range spell. Unless you have abilities that can cut through its spell resistance and render it helpless, I'm not sure if it would help.

I spot a hole... in its skull lol

We're going to negotiate about what eating that brain is worth to you...

Blink is a Personal range spell. Unless you have abilities that can cut through its spell resistance and render it helpless, I'm not sure if it would help.

I have telekinesis at will. I can beat it from afar with basically anything while I'm ethereal.

Works for me.

That would have been a nice thing to know earlier. >.<

Can Del coup de grace with non-lethal damage?

That might be the best way of handling this.

Ok I'm here .. I read the past few posts... you guys post a lot ... :P
Anyway... I am not sure that a coup de grace can ever be non-lethal damage.
Besides her natural weapons are not that powerful.
She would be extremely pleased to coup de grace the devil with lethal attacks though.
Just tell her what you want to do and she will provide at the best of her abilities.

Just coup de grace it in a way that leaves the body mostly intact for Anaxian, would that solve each parties desires?

That's why I said tell her what you want.
Her coup de grace would be a rapier puncture + vampiric touch. It hardly destroys a body.
But looks like he wants him alive.

I personally don't have a big desire to have a living CR16 hostage.

I personally don't have a big desire to have a living CR16 hostage.

Second. Kill it. Anaxian can raise it as undead if he wants.

Now, if Anaxian has some super special awesome binding method, totally, but otherwise. :/

The succubus interfered as I was buttering it up for suggestion already, now she wants to deny me dinner? Yur about to have a new enemy.

The succubus interfered as I was buttering it up for suggestion already, now she wants to deny me dinner? Yur about to have a new enemy.

They're killing the demon. I'm sure you can have the body.

ZDt, I don't think you've got much of a shot at using Suggestion on a CR 16 devil with +20 to will saves.

It may also be worth noting that possession effects, in pathfinder, are intrinsically limited in duration; if a possessor's body is destroyed, then when the effect ends the host becomes unpossessed, which in this case would leave one of the highest-ranking military officials in Lavosha at your mercy.

Yur correct, neither of us did, but we didn't know that at the time and she still interupted

Zhǔ Dà túshā wrote:

The succubus interfered as I was buttering it up for suggestion already, now she wants to deny me dinner? Yur about to have a new enemy.

They're killing the demon. I'm sure you can have the body.

Its the demons live brain I hunger for.

If I just wanted it dead, that would be easy.

If is in the ethereal plane. If it dies there the body stays in the ethereal plane.

I need it alive so that when we kill the host the body materializes on this plane, stuck in the circle and nearly dead. Then we kill it here so I can keep the body.

If it dies while incorporeal the whole point is moot.

Unless, of course, ethereal jaunt allows someone to bring back enormously heavy corpses back with them. (I don't know the specifics of that spell, so that's not a rhetorical question)

The succubus interfered as I was buttering it up for suggestion already, now she wants to deny me dinner? Yur about to have a new enemy.

Shouldn't you kiss the earth where your liberators walk?

Unless, of course, ethereal jaunt allows someone to bring back enormously heavy corpses back with them. (I don't know the specifics of that spell, so that's not a rhetorical question)

If he weights less than 50 lbs. which I seriously doubt.

Unless, of course, ethereal jaunt allows someone to bring back enormously heavy corpses back with them. (I don't know the specifics of that spell, so that's not a rhetorical question)

I think this may actually be correct—it appears that Ethereal Jaunt allows you to carry an arbitrary amount of inanimate "equipment" with you.

At the end of the day the devil needs to be dead. Beyond that I don't care about the details.

I see nothing in the spell's description about limits on "equipment", so I guess its up to the DM if a corpse would somehow be considered gear.

You can call dibs on the shadow dancer all you want. You'll need to bring her back to life though.

I have to kill her to make the demon materialize in our plane. There's no other way of doing it that I can think of.

I guess if an unconscious or dead creature counts as "equipment" she could kill it and bring it back to our plane without killing the host first.

I'm not sure what that would do to the host though. Technically, the two are sharing the same place on different planes. No idea what would happen when the body of the demon was pulled out, or brought into our plane.

Zhu may not get his snack, but there will be others.

Her ability is at will. Cut the body into parts, return it 50 lbs at a time, reassemble on the other side.

I can't imagine Delyliath enjoying hacking apart pieces of devil, but it's a fun image.

So... a Belier devil using its magic jar ability normally turns ethereal. However, it is in the creature's best interest to keep its ethereal body where it can keep an eye on it—so I'm ruling that there's some sort of hand wavy magic keeping the ethereal body loosely connected to the shadow dancer (and overlapping with it) through some kind of ethereal magicy silvery cord thing. If you kill the host first, the devil will rematerialize, possibly resulting in Fun from the overlap. If you kill the devil on the ethereal plane, its corpse should remain ethereal and be totally possible to drag off to the side (since ethereal things tend to be weightless-ish) before dematerializing with it.

@Meredian... but the devil is IN the details

Ok, then Del should be able to find the teacher, follow it, kill the demon and bring it back, all without harming the host at all.

If she can knock it out with non lethal damage instead of killing it, Zhu can even eat it's brain.

Shouldn't you kiss the earth where your liberators walk?

Liberator seems pretty generous, considering I can charm even a succubus into doing my bidding.

Ladies, ladies, you're both pretty.

Ladies, ladies, you're both pretty.

*flares tenticles* lol