| Alika |
Yeah. I am battling pretty severe, as in what I have to take for allergies does not really help, allergies here in So Cal, and I find for the first few ticks it takes a bit of energy to get used to RPing a brand new character.
Its not that Alika is anti-social, she is a bard, but she's trying to figure out her new roomie at the moment. I'll get them up on deck quick enough, I assume.
| Matt Cøtteryl |
That's cool, I tried coming up with some for some of my PC's;
'The Animals - House of the rising sun' was awesome. And Bathory is always good. But I cannot think of too many arabic style songs. But off the top of my head for Matt, I would probably go for 'Inkubus Sukkubus - Pagan Born', or 'Craft of the Wise'.
| Alika |
GM CanyonR
What's your stance on private conversations? In my KM campaign a bunch of my players are talking to each other and NPCs behind spoilers, but my husband's wizard who has Perception +9 is freaking out because there's no way he wouldn't hear exactly who is saying what to whom at all moments of the day...
Just curious if you would mind it being like that, since Alika would try to meet at least Gawain privately, and might impart information that she would not necessarily to the others, but I don't want to shat up your IC boards with a different format without checking with you first.
| GM CanyonR |
I'm fine with private conversations in spoiler tags. I anticipate there will be a lot of that in this game. As for who can hear what; I'll say we start with a challenge, someone will have to make a case for why they should hear, and I'll either agree, set a DC for a perception check, or decide it wouldn't have been heard.
I'm loving the personalities that you all are developing. This is exactly the interaction I was hoping for.
| Alika |
Well, if Alika wants to talk to someone privately, she will likely use the Message spell, so that no matter where she is, so long as she has line of sight, she can speak to them without it seeming... off.
Edit
Message comes with a set perception DC 25 to hear the whispered conversation.
But I wanted to know if Tristen was making an effort not to be heard, or if he was deliberately cracking wise in front of the weaver of webs.
| Gawain Macellan |
| GM CanyonR |
Alika: I was trying to answer the example from your other game, not whether you could hear Tristen or not.
As for the spoiler conversations I'm actually planing on using them heavily for some of the upcoming story points. I just want everyone to feel free to use them also if you feel it is appropriate.
| GM CanyonR |
OK, Matt brings up a point I wanted to discuss. One of the reasons I wanted everyone to arrive 20-30 minutes apart so that no one would see the Markers as they were being shown to the Captain. Since that isn't the way it played out, I'm going to leave it up to everyone individually. Obviously no one else was around when Alika boarded so that isn't an issue. But for everyone else, did you present your marker in a way that anyone else could have seen? I understand you would have reasons to want it one way or another.
I'm going to rule that unless someone decides that their marker was visible when they presented it then it wasn't visible.
Let me know what you think.
| Alika |
Yeah, I read through what Alika has said to matt, and there's not even an implication about anything even remotely relating to a mission
I really, really do not know what you're on about, but this amount of meta you're pushing is disturbing me.
Because I have played highly political campaigns before, and know how to misdirect with my speech, and I've done nothing with Alika to even hint that she is nothing but a simple passenger on the way to Taldor. All you know about her is that she is a merchant. The only thing that you can infer from that, the only thing you can infer from that is that she might have some business in the city.
Absolutely... *sigh*
| GM CanyonR |
Alika, I understand your concerns and I don't think Matt is intentionally trying to play 'meta'.
It is a fair issue though. In highly RP based games, especially ones with characters created as political players, keeping track of what your character does and doesn't hear can be difficult. I think the best way to solve this is what we are doing now, using the Discussion thread to work out the when and what constructively. And forgiving someone if they slip up.
If anyone has any questions about what they should or shouldn't know, please ask and I'll try to get an answer quickly.
I also want to acknowledge that most games strive for 'party unity' and giving everyone a reason to 'work together' out of the gate. I have purposely not done that in this game. Partially because I wanted this kind of 'getting to know you' conversations but mostly because I plan to solve this issue as part of the story line.
| Alika |
I assumed as much for party unity. I never said that Alika was adverse to working with the group, simply that she would not employ them. She is more curious about the mysterious benefactor's intent, to assemble her along with the factor, as well as this weird elf and two guys who essentially wear their problems on their sleeves.
Alika is a highly political character from the get go. She see Magnur as a potential ally, coz he has a background that she can infer would understand the concerns of a merchant. And he's a linguist, so he knows the importance and potential pitfalls of language, which he has declared.
She assumes that Magnur is on his way to employment, and doesn't particularly care for the Elf. The ulfen she figures is aiming for Ulfen Guard, again, it's nothing she is particularly concerned about. She has no intent to go Oppara, well, maybe a little one.
| Mangur Harmpreet |
Well, for myself, I do not read the players backgrounds. I assume this is for the DM, and if the player wishes me to know something about their character, then they will tell me, either in character, or out. I find this helps me with meta gaming...I cannot act on something I do not know...and it make it fun when I dream up a mysterious background for a chacater that really has none..lol
| Alika |
My backgrounds are never full, they're just outlines. No background can ever be full short of a novel being written to fill in every week/month.
And I don't read others, either. I don't even assume I know what class you are. Most I will look at is physical stats to have an idea what the body type is if they don't have a physical description, and race, because you should be able to tell the difference between the core races.
| Tristen Almeran |
lol think Ill stay out of this one haha im just trying not to be left out of discussions and still getting a feel for how to play this character in politics I am sure the way we should will happen once we are their and know more and party unity is built on party strife and overcoming it (oddly thats how strong relationships are built lol or not oddly ;D ) anyways once we hash out what everyone is doing till join in more :)
| Matt Cøtteryl |
"On the contrary, Adler's 'keep, we were each of us doing our best to omit the object of our voyage, until the curiosity of one dispelled the illusion," Alika says pointedly, the tone of her voice clipped.
Alika's response to Tristan. After Tristan said he got the same mission as Matt {my mentor sent me here}, thus Matt (with Int 17 & being paranoid) thought the our not just refered to Tristan & him but also to all the passengers. Also acting paranoid he is trying to divert the intrusive questions away from himself, making it seem like they are to do with others.
Also there is a certain amount of fishing for information.
| Alika |
I don't see how that implies anything. That is her saying that she has no reason to tell any of you what she is doing there. You can infer all you like, but she never once implied that she was there for any of you.
The only information she has given was that she originated in Katapesh, and that she is a merchant. Again, you cannot infer from that anything more than that she is on a business trip.
Broken down for you
we were each of us as individuals were doing our best to omit the object of our group of individuals gathered in one physical location, conversing together voyage, until the curiosity of one dispelled the illusion until you opened your mouth and started asking questions you should not have.
| Matt Cøtteryl |
Fair enough, that was not how Matt interpretted it. And as was said the intricacies of language are interesting.
BTW what was the questions that Tristan was asking about the voyage? Mangur was asking the questions about the voyage.
Anyway, I have not read any backgrounds and as for as i know Alika is a 'Tailors Dummy'
Apologies for the confusion..
| Alika |
Eh... There's good, and there's good. She's a bard, not a cleric. Eventually, it'll add up to good, but it ain't gonna look nice on the way there.
I love playing shifty bards. Much more shifty than rogues, without being the "I put my hood up and sit in the corner radiating shifty" because they have awesome charisma and bluff is a class skill.
| Matt Cøtteryl |
I'd love to properly play a bard. All my PC's spend points in music (& usually cooking), but i have only played a couple of sessions as a bard. Though once I stopped a TPK as a medusa turned all the other PC's to stone & I had to stop her eating them. :)
Actually it's going really well, Matt was just trying to get more info out of everyone. Especially since the lady who would berate them left.
| GM CanyonR |
It seems that things have slowed down a bit. I want to remind everyone that I am looking to you to set the pace. If you want, please feel free to jump the clock forward to move things along. Also, when everyone feels that they have 'played out' the boat trip, I'm ready to move you all into port and begin the rest of the story. In fact, I have been writing up the next few scenes and I'm getting very excited for when you all get there. Yet, I don't want to rush you either. Please take your time and get as much out of the trip as you want to.
| Matt Cøtteryl |
Sorry I have to laugh at this chess game. I have spent the entire evening playing board-games (& remembering that my friends still have the keg of ale set-up).
This is getting a bit too recursive. Gamers playing a game in which their politicians playing a game whilst playing mind-games ;P
| Matt Cøtteryl |
What free-form chess or the politics of the world. In RL I would be happy to act that out but at 1:30 across a computer, I am not sure what the rules would be other than interesting quoting and a bit of a laugh.
If that is what Alika was suggesting then... sorry. If it was another game then?
EDIT: I was picturing more of the orginal Thomas Crown Affair (minus the insinuations) rather than the episode of 'The Big Bang Theory' or 'Red Dwarf' (where Rimmer plays Hitler and Napoleon at Risk)