Food deity?


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So I checked Inner Sea Gods, and nothing jumped out at me. Who's the patron deity of foodies? Not gluttony, just appreciation of fine dining, much the way Cayden Cailean is the god of alcohol, but not drunkenness.

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Maybe Erastil, as the god of farming, is also a god of bounty, and therefore of food. Right?

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Brom the Obnoxiously Awesome wrote:
Maybe Erastil, as the god of farming, is also a god of bounty, and therefore of food. Right?

Then there is Shelyn, in her role as goddess of artistry.

It really depends also on your character's relationship with food.

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No, Erastil's the god of hard working rural farmers, because he's focused on the hard work and the community benefiting from it, not on the specific products of that labor. I'm looking for a deity focused on the cooking and enjoyment of really high quality food, not the growing of any old crops.

Shelyn might work, if you view cooking as an art form, but I thought there might be a deity more focused on this in particular.


Well, apparently there isn't one. But there are supposed to be a number of minor gods. Why not make one up? Or expand the portfolios of the gods just a touch where it seems appropriate.

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Folca is the god of candy, so that's something.

And by "god," I mean Daemon harbinger. And he's all about child abductions too. But hey, candy!


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Fromper wrote:

So I checked Inner Sea Gods, and nothing jumped out at me. Who's the patron deity of foodies? Not gluttony, just appreciation of fine dining, much the way Cayden Cailean is the god of alcohol, but not drunkenness.

He's not the god of drunkenness?

He beat the Starstone challenge and his apotheosis occurred while blackout drunk!

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Voadam wrote:

He's not the god of drunkenness?

He beat the Starstone challenge and his apotheosis occurred while blackout drunk!

True, but he's not the god of alcoholism as a lifestyle. You're not supposed to abuse the gifts he's provided, you're supposed to use them to unleash your inner desires, find your courage, and bring people together. Getting blackout drunk every night so you can't remember what a shamble your life is is strongly against Cayden Cailean's teachings.

(A message from your friendly neighborhood deacon of the Father of Hops.)

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Craig Bonham 141 wrote:
Well, apparently there isn't one. But there are supposed to be a number of minor gods. Why not make one up? Or expand the portfolios of the gods just a touch where it seems appropriate.

Well, this is for a Pathfinder Society character, so strictly RAW. But if there isn't an appropriate deity, I could still make one up. He just wouldn't be a real god.

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Fromper wrote:
Craig Bonham 141 wrote:
Well, apparently there isn't one. But there are supposed to be a number of minor gods. Why not make one up? Or expand the portfolios of the gods just a touch where it seems appropriate.
Well, this is for a Pathfinder Society character, so strictly RAW. But if there isn't an appropriate deity, I could still make one up. He just wouldn't be a real god.

Then, I would definitely go with Shelyn.

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Well, it is a non-divine caster, so he isn't really required to have a religion. I just thought if there was an appropriate deity, it would be cool.

I'm actually starting to like the making one up option. He could worship a puppet, like Elan. The Swedish Chef could be my patron god!


I would give it to a triad of Erastil-Abadar-Shelyn, produce-civilization-artistry = fine foods.

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Fromper wrote:

Well, it is a non-divine caster, so he isn't really required to have a religion. I just thought if there was an appropriate deity, it would be cool.

I'm actually starting to like the making one up option. He could worship a puppet, like Elan. The Swedish Chef could be my patron god!

I love this idea. Oh muppets.

Technically, even if you were a divine caster, I don't think you have to have one. It constantly says "If she has a deity" or "If he has a deity", even in the Cleric stuff.

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I'm going to back up Shelyn here: she's the goddess of beauty, artistry, and love. Basically, if you're using your senses for enjoyment, she's the goddess of it.

Alternatively, Urgathoa has a gluttony/overindulging focus. Her holy book is titled Serving your Hunger.


whihc makes her the deity of cannibalism

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As others say, it depends on how your relationship with food/fine dining is. As a work of art is Shelyn, as a social benefit is Abadar, as a pleasure (particularly when over-indulgence, gluttony, or cruel ingredients are involved) is Urgathoa.


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Aren't many of Cayden Cailean's priests also bakers? I guess it's due to all that yeast on hand.


I'm sure Urgathoa can appriciate a finely cooked meal. The best braised baby brains!


Does it have to be an Inner Sea God?

Daikitsu, the goddess of Kitsune, is also the goddess of Rice and Agriculture. Maybe if you like Asian dishes?


Aroden

Or alternatively Abadar as god of civilization.


I'd go with either Abadar (as fine foods are a hallmark of civilization), Thisamet (Empyreal Lord of Celebrations, Feasts, etc.) or maaaybe Alseta (in her guise as the Welcomer).

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TimD wrote:

I'd go with either Abadar (as fine foods are a hallmark of civilization), Thisamet (Empyreal Lord of Celebrations, Feasts, etc.) or maaaybe Alseta (in her guise as the Welcomer).

-TimD

I'd say Thisamet too

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God of food...?

Beory wasn't cool in Greyhawk; she'll not be cool here. We don't need her in Pathfinder.
And let's not get started on how pathetic Chauntea is in FR.

Please, no food god.


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Fromper wrote:

Well, it is a non-divine caster, so he isn't really required to have a religion. I just thought if there was an appropriate deity, it would be cool.

I'm actually starting to like the making one up option. He could worship a puppet, like Elan. The Swedish Chef could be my patron god!

So it'd be the "Herly Cherchee eef der Sveedirsh Cherfee?"


W E Ray wrote:
And let's not get started on how pathetic Chauntea is in FR.

You... don't know much about Chauntea, do you?

Or does all the stuff I've read about her also being a pretty hardcore nature deity not count because "agriculture" happens to be in her portfolio?

(Unless they did something else with her in 4E. I dunno, man, that one just got really weird, really quickly.)

EDIT: I mean, the equivalent god in this setting is Erastil (despite being male and lawful good instead of female and neutral good). I don't know that I'd call Old Deadeye 'pathetic', despite being a "food deity" of sorts.

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Fromper wrote:

So I checked Inner Sea Gods, and nothing jumped out at me. Who's the patron deity of foodies? Not gluttony, just appreciation of fine dining, much the way Cayden Cailean is the god of alcohol, but not drunkenness.

Technically according to Catholicism, where the seven deadly sins originated, gluttony wasn't simply overeating, but also enjoying food too much, eating something really expensive when others are starving and anticipating meals too readily. The idea is that the sin isn't about quantity, but about caring more about your food than about God and your fellow man. Just appreciation of fine dining falls under the old school definition of gluttony, which puts it in Urgathoa's purview. There are some of her followers who hide among the nobility as chefs extraordinaire, not consuming feasts themselves, but acting as enablers to others to guide them down her path.

Also, generally speaking, Pathfinder's mores consider gluttony of any kind to be bad. One of the worst demon types, the nabassu, is born from the souls of gluttons, it's often used to illustrate the decadence of upper class NPCs (like in Council of Thieves' cornucopia) and it's something that even without Urgathoa's connection is still commonly associated with various kinds of undead.


Basically correct, but with a minor quibble: the concept of indulgences aside, one was not expected to cease being wealthy or never enjoy the fruits thereof: instead, it was gluttony only if you actively kept for yourself in the face of poverty/starvation. One example from the Old Testament was that it was fine to enjoy the boons of a bountiful harvest, but you were expected to leave the corners of your field uncut for those who could afford nothing to come acquire said food. The greater the sacrifice to the good of others, the greater the grace given, and deception about it was just as sinful. Effectively, I'm agreeing with you, but noting that it's a tad more nuanced than, "if you really enjoy good food, you're in sin" even though that's a decent way of explaining the concept. :)

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