Summoner with Eldritch Heritage (Arcane Bloodline)


Rules Questions


So if a summoner goes down the eldritch heritage feat line and picks up the new arcana bloodline power, can he add non-summoner spells that are in the wiz/sorc spell list to his list of spells known?

I do not see why not but there is often sneaky hidden text somewhere that exists to destroy my delusions of grandeur.


the Eldritch heritage feats specifically say you do not gain the ability to do anything you would. ot normally do.

since summoners cannot cast wizard spells any more than a fighter can my guess is it probably wouldn't work.

that said as a dm I'd let you do this as long as you picked spells a summoner can cast. that is to say on the summoner list.


Mojorat wrote:

the Eldritch heritage feats specifically say you do not gain the ability to do anything you would. ot normally do.

since summoners cannot cast wizard spells any more than a fighter can my guess is it probably wouldn't work.

that said as a dm I'd let you do this as long as you picked spells a summoner can cast. that is to say on the summoner list.

I do not see a line like that in the pdf I have of ultimate magic.

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thepuregamer wrote:

So if a summoner goes down the eldritch heritage feat line and picks up the new arcana bloodline power, can he add non-summoner spells that are in the wiz/sorc spell list to his list of spells known?

I do not see why not but there is often sneaky hidden text somewhere that exists to destroy my delusions of grandeur.

No, for all purposes of this feat you replace all instances of whatever class level name with your character level, at least that is the intention I believe so.

To answer your question, treat the arcane bonded objects effect like a pearl of power with no spell level restriction.


The arcane bloodlines ability says to add a spell from the sor/wiz spell list and add it to your "list of spells known" as long as it is of a level u can cast. Coincidently u are an arcane spontaneous caster that happens to have a list of known spells, so as long as your charisma score and level are sufficiently high, I would say u could pick any spell from the sor/wiz list


weird I thought there was an example somewhere for the heritage feats not giving you access to things you wouldn't normally have. but I appear tho have invented it. as written the idea works.


thepuregamer wrote:

So if a summoner goes down the eldritch heritage feat line and picks up the new arcana bloodline power, can he add non-summoner spells that are in the wiz/sorc spell list to his list of spells known?

I do not see why not but there is often sneaky hidden text somewhere that exists to destroy my delusions of grandeur.

Assuming that this works, you wont be able to use those spells with your eidolon via share spells since they are not on the summoner's list.

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