Can't wait to get it, and the AP that goes with it.
Whitethrone? How will this map differ from the one in City Map Folio?
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Whitethrone? How will this map differ from the one in City Map Folio?
The map of Whitethrone is a more detailed version of the one that appeared in the City Map Folio, incorporating some additional details of the city that appeared in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Irrisen, Land of Eternal Winter.
It's still a map of the same city, however, so there is not much difference between the two, other than the amount of detail shown. But since Whitethrone is a significant location for the Reign of Winter Adventure Path, we decided to include a map of it in the Reign of Winter Map Folio.
Whitethrone? How will this map differ from the one in City Map Folio?
The map of Whitethrone is a more detailed version of the one that appeared in the City Map Folio, incorporating some additional details of the city that appeared in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Irrisen, Land of Eternal Winter.
It's still a map of the same city, however, so there is not much difference between the two, other than the amount of detail shown. But since Whitethrone is a significant location for the Reign of Winter Adventure Path, we decided to include a map of it in the Reign of Winter Map Folio.
Thank you for the reply, Rob! :)
Hmmm ... by "more detailed" do you mean numbers at locations important to the AP or more buildings added?
In other words, could I - when the party arrives in Whitethrone - hand the map from the City Map Folio to the players while I use the map from the RoW Map Folio? Or do I have to tell them something like "there are a few big or otherwise obvious structures/garrisons/whatever which don't appear on your map"?
I love the ink-and-parchment maps.
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Whitethrone? How will this map differ from the one in City Map Folio?The map of Whitethrone is a more detailed version of the one that appeared in the City Map Folio, incorporating some additional details of the city that appeared in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Irrisen, Land of Eternal Winter.
It's still a map of the same city, however, so there is not much difference between the two, other than the amount of detail shown. But since Whitethrone is a significant location for the Reign of Winter Adventure Path, we decided to include a map of it in the Reign of Winter Map Folio.
Thank you for the reply, Rob! :)
Hmmm ... by "more detailed" do you mean numbers at locations important to the AP or more buildings added?
In other words, could I - when the party arrives in Whitethrone - hand the map from the City Map Folio to the players while I use the map from the RoW Map Folio? Or do I have to tell them something like "there are a few big or otherwise obvious structures/garrisons/whatever which don't appear on your map"?
More detailed means more accurate buildings and terrain features. We don't generally put tags on poster maps - that's reserved for the maps in the adventures themselves. Which means the RoW poster map would be fine as a player's map.
A good way to look at it is that the City Map Folio map would be a map you might find outside of Irrisen - all the basics are there, but there are a number of inaccuracies. The RoW Map Folio map would be a map you could buy in Whitethrone itself.
Whitethrone? How will this map differ from the one in City Map Folio?
The map of Whitethrone is a more detailed version of the one that appeared in the City Map Folio, incorporating some additional details of the city that appeared in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Irrisen, Land of Eternal Winter.
It's still a map of the same city, however, so there is not much difference between the two, other than the amount of detail shown. But since Whitethrone is a significant location for the Reign of Winter Adventure Path, we decided to include a map of it in the Reign of Winter Map Folio.
Thank you for the reply, Rob! :)
Hmmm ... by "more detailed" do you mean numbers at locations important to the AP or more buildings added?
In other words, could I - when the party arrives in Whitethrone - hand the map from the City Map Folio to the players while I use the map from the RoW Map Folio? Or do I have to tell them something like "there are a few big or otherwise obvious structures/garrisons/whatever which don't appear on your map"?
More detailed means more accurate buildings and terrain features. We don't generally put tags on poster maps - that's reserved for the maps in the adventures themselves. Which means the RoW poster map would be fine as a player's map.
A good way to look at it is that the City Map Folio map would be a map you might find outside of Irrisen - all the basics are there, but there are a number of inaccuracies. The RoW Map Folio map would be a map you could buy in Whitethrone itself.
Thank you for the clarification!
Updated to final cover and description!
Oooh. Pretty!
Oooh. Pretty!
Yeah, I like the little guardian huts around the edges!
Oooh. Pretty!Yeah, I like the little guardian huts around the edges!
Me too. That's cool as hell. :)
I will pass on this product even though I am planning to run this AP early next year. The maps offered do not seem to be of much use when I already have most of them, or acceptable substitutes that I could even draw myself.
No, what I needed this to be was a folio containing PDFs of all the maps from the AP with the notes for the DM removed. Something I could access so I could print out the AP's maps without having to go into Photoshop or MS Paint and modify them so the players wouldn't get giveaway clues when I lay them out on the tabletop (electronic or otherwise).
I don't understand why the AP's can't follow the example set by the PFS scenarios. With those maps it's as simple as clicking on the image in the PDF (which then highlights), copy, open MS Paint, Paste, and done. The map copies without any of the traps, room numbers, or "place badguys here" icons on it. It becomes something that you can simply adjust the size of for scale and hit "print".
This is the first Paizo AP I will be running, so I don't know what the past APs have done. It seems silly that PFS can figure out how to format things for ease of use, but the AP staff can't?
Disappointing, and a lot more work for me.
P.S. If you have some technical tips that would help with this problem, please share them and I will take it all back.
hmm, didn't the map folios used to include all the maps from the APs?
Edit: Playing through CotCT and RotRL right now and they had the maps, but looking at my more recent folios, they indeed do not. Interesting!
They switched around Kingmaker, from memory. The old ones werent that popular - a number of people felt like they were buying something twice and didnt find the different format very valuable.
Whitethrone? How will this map differ from the one in City Map Folio?The map of Whitethrone is a more detailed version of the one that appeared in the City Map Folio, incorporating some additional details of the city that appeared in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Irrisen, Land of Eternal Winter.
It's still a map of the same city, however, so there is not much difference between the two, other than the amount of detail shown. But since Whitethrone is a significant location for the Reign of Winter Adventure Path, we decided to include a map of it in the Reign of Winter Map Folio.
In my view, the other two maps make the product worth it's price (especially the ink-and-parchment one, I love those!)
However, I thought I'd mention that the inclusion of Whitethrone was a disappointment to me. I understand the points you make here, nonetheless it feels like my previous Whitethrone map has just got a little less useful. I'm not sure that it really would have mattered if I didnt have a super-up-to-date-and-detailed version.
It's hardly a big issue (I cant remember it happening before now) but as a general rule I, for one, would prefer that a folio not include an updated version of some previously released map.
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As a general rule, I think that we would prefer not to release new versions of previously released maps in map folios. In this case, however, we thought it was better to do include the Whitethrone map in the map folio. As I stated before, it's an important location for the AP, and as a result, is it better to assume (or require) that people buy a 4-year-old product with five other city maps that have NO connection to the AP at all, or reprint one of those maps in the map folio with updates and more detail? Obviously, we took the second course, and while that means you got a reprint of a map you already have, it gives a lot of other people a new map they can use with this AP.
Glad you liked the other two maps, and sorry that the Whitethrone map is not what you would have preferred.
No worries. It's a pretty minor thing, and the reprinting makes sense. I just thought I'd mention it. The map folios are great overall - the odd disappointing individual map is inevitable, really.
actuall, all of the hut interiors would be an interesting map.
When do the interactive map packs come out usually?
Yeah, I don't get the PDFs because I bought reign of winter through the local gaming store, which needs the support, but the interactive map pack would be a good way to print encounter maps out for the players when I start it.
Reviewed! I think that Paizo has finally nailed the correct balances with this product line.
When do the interactive map packs come out usually?If you buy the PDF of each volume, you get the interactive map of that volume with it; the collection of just the interactive maps should come out when the PDF of the last volume of the AP is released.
I've got pdfs of each of the Reign of Winter modules. I've used the maps so far as handouts in my game but I'd like to print them out full scale for use at the table during combats. Is there an easy way to scale up the interactive maps?
I don't understand what this product delivers... are there any thumbnails of the content?
The Map Folio gives you three poster maps: one of Whitethrone, one of Iobaria, and a pen-and-ink style player-friendly map of Irrisen. I'll look into getting some sample images added.