question for the pazio devs on pf2e future rulebooks


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


will 2e mythic or an equivalent ever be a thing? I want to know if it's something the pazio devs have even talked about? is it a yes it will happen at some point? maybe ? or never? is anyone in the office particularly wanting to do it like Jason with book of the dead?

I know 1e mythic was messy but at that point the bloat was insane anyway

I want pcs to have mechanics for being demigods I want to run campaigns against geb himself the whispering tyrant or the four horsemen!

please paizo I'll give unlimited hero points! :)


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I don’t know that Paizo will confirm an unannounced project in a forum thread.

I also think a Pathfinder-related question goes in the Pathfinder forums.


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If PF2 mythic were to be like PF1 mythic, meaning a regular game with Bigger Numbers so you can fight monsters with Bigger Numbers, count me out.

Horizon Hunters

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Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:
If PF2 mythic were to be like PF1 mythic, meaning a regular game with Bigger Numbers so you can fight monsters with Bigger Numbers, count me out.

I did like Mythic in PF1, but I agree that much of it was just adding bigger numbers. Given that the base chassis of PF2 doesn’t use that sort of math, I would hope that any potential mythic option for PF2 would avoid it, too.


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@belgrath9344

There is an excellent discussion thread here from May of 2021, which you started, and it pretty much unofficially answers your question.

And @keftui is right, this is the wrong sub-forum.

Maybe go bump your old thread?


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It’s also worth noting: major new rulebooks like this are pretty much exclusively announced at Paizo Live and Gen Con. Don’t expect to hear anything before those.

Grand Lodge

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The standard response from Paizo regarding unannounced books has generally been something to the effect of "we do not currently have plans to produce such a book, but we are always considering our options and new ideas so it is possible we might do it in the future. We have nothing to announce at this time." Or essentially what was said above. They are not going to announce new books in a random forum thread and they virtually never discuss the release schedule beyond what has been announced. I would think that eventually they will get around to producing something akin to epic material, but its probably quite a ways off. If you need something immediately, your best bet is to use a combination of 1E Mythic rules as well as D&D 3E Epic rules and anything from 3PP as the foundation of a set of house rules for your campaign. Good luck!


Starfinder Superscriber

The reception to 1e Mythic was so poor that they wound up only doing Wrath of the Righteous for it, and that was it.


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Leon Aquilla wrote:
The reception to 1e Mythic was so poor that they wound up only doing Wrath of the Righteous for it, and that was it.

That isn't true: a quick look shows they had mythic stuff in the Bestiaries, a Mythic Origins, Distant Shores, Heroes of Golarion, Mythic Realms, Alchemy Manual and Cohorts and Companions. Now if you meant it was the only adventure path you'd be right.

Mythic wasn't like words of power where they made it and NEVER looked back: they actually produced content for mythic past the initial stuff in several books.


Starfinder Superscriber
graystone wrote:
That isn't true:

Yes it is.

When we talk about Mythic play we're not talking about 20+ CR monsters and it's disingenous to frame it that way. We're talking about AP's and player options.

And if Jacobs' post is anything to go by, I wouldn't expect Mythic rules for PC's anytime soon.


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Leon Aquilla wrote:
graystone wrote:
That isn't true:

Yes it is.

When we talk about Mythic play we're not talking about 20+ CR monsters and it's disingenous to frame it that way. We're talking about AP's and player options.

Several books had Mythic player options.

Sovereign Court

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Some of the more notable things for me from Mythic were things like mythic initiative abilities. I've seen those pop up on special bosses in APs and capstone scenarios here and there.

Other mythic stuff seemed to revolve around getting unshackled from 1E's somewhat clunky action economy.

Those are things that are now pretty much in the core game. I think the bits of mythic that got more actual use were already being considered for more core usage by the time of the unchained book.


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Leon Aquilla wrote:
graystone wrote:
That isn't true:

Yes it is.

When we talk about Mythic play we're not talking about 20+ CR monsters and it's disingenous to frame it that way. We're talking about AP's and player options.

EVERY book I posted had player options in them other than Bestiaries [SIX books]. Maybe, just maybe, try to actually fact check things BEFORE you start calling others disingenuous.

PS: I'm not sure what the link has to do with anything about the amount of mythic material produced after mythic adventures...

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