Thundercaller Thunderspam?


Rules Questions

Scarab Sages

Bardic performance says "Starting a bardic performance is a standard action, but it can be maintained each round as a free action" and later can be reduced to a move/swift.

Can a thunder-caller start the "thunder call" performance on round 1 then get to direct it as a free action on round 2?

If so could the bard start the performance again the same round for a second thundercall? (and how would that interact with Lingering performance?)

Could a 13th lvl thundercaller use all their actions in a round to get three thundercalls out the same round, resulting in 15d8 sonic damage and 3 fort saves?

While I'm here, here are some tangents:
How does Fire Music interact with thundercaller abilities?
Can you apply metamagics to the faux sound-burst/call-lightning? (I'm assuming no)
Would other class's abilities (sorcerer orc bloodline for instance)/traits/feats affect the effects of thundercaller abilities?


I don't know about your main question, but Thunder Call is not really a spell, so no metamagics. Likewise, Fire Music requires that you are actually casting a spell, not using a supernatural ability. Same goes for Orc bloodline.


VIRTUOSO PERFORMANCE
School transmutation; Level bard 4
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V
Range personal
Target you
Duration 1 round/level
While this spell is active, you may start a second bardic performance while maintaining another. Starting the second performance costs 2 rounds of bardic performance instead of 1. Maintaining both performances costs a total of 3 rounds of bardic performance for each round they are maintained. When this spell ends, one of the performances ends immediately (your choice).

Virtuoso performance does not stack with any other method of maintaining simultaneous bardic performances.


Sorry, what does Virtuoso Performance have to do with anything here, other than being a wonderful spell?

Liberty's Edge

I assume he's mentioning it as a way to maintain two bardic performances simultaneously, but I'm pretty sure Virtuoso Performance was intended to let you maintain two different bardic performances simultaneously, not the same one twice per round.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Timebomb wrote:

1) Could a 13th lvl thundercaller use all their actions in a round to get three thundercalls out the same round, resulting in 15d8 sonic damage and 3 fort saves?

2) Fire Music

3) Can you apply metamagics to the faux sound-burst/call-lightning?

4) Would other class's abilities (sorcerer orc bloodline for instance)/traits/feats affect the effects of thundercaller abilities?

5) would that interact with Lingering performance?

1) Limited to 1 performance per round.

2) It isn't a spell.

3) No

4) Not a spell.

5) Doesn't last so can't linger.

Scarab Sages

James Risner wrote:

1) Limited to 1 performance per round.

3) No

For #1, bardic music doesn't say "1 performance per round" it says "Each round, the bard can produce any one of the types of bardic performance that he has mastered, as indicated by his level." I don't see where it limits the bard to one initiation of one performance in one round.

For #3 Why would it be no? You can cast a regular sound burst and a quickened sound burst in the same round and they stack. If the reason is because it is a bardic music ability then it should be effected by Lingering Performance.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Timebomb wrote:

#1 "Each round, the bard can produce any one of the types of bardic performance that he has mastered, as indicated by his level."

#2 Why would it be no?

1) You might but many can read that line as the limitation of 1 bardic performance per round.

2) It isn't a spell.


I'm in the one type of performance but multiple times the same performance one after the other is allowed camp. So yes you can use it with all your actions.

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