it is the same whether it is the mythical or normal spell, the point of the Wild Arcana is that it applies all the rules as if it were a normal spell (it can be countered, it will give attacks of opportunity if it does not cast defensively, etc) you can apply meta magic as long as you have a spell slot equivalent to your normal use. however you cannot use the mythic version if you do not have the universal ability or feat that the mythic version of the spell gives you. other than that if he has any other ability that requires the use of mythical power, he will think twice. example my arcanist is dual path archmage / guardian (wild Arcana / absorb blow)
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If you are playing in a mythic campaign you will quickly find that most if not all of it is overpowered. Mythic rules are designed that way and they actually get a lot worse than that. Normal pathfinder rules were designed to simulate things like Lord of the Rings, and a lot of other modern fantasy fiction. Mythic rules were designed to simulate something closer to Greek mythology. Think Hercules or Perseus instead of Argorn .
It can be fun but you need to abandon your concept of balanced, because it is not. Mythic is a chance to go crazy with your character.
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If you are playing in a mythic campaign you will quickly find that most if not all of it is overpowered. Mythic rules are designed that way and they actually get a lot worse than that. Normal pathfinder rules were designed to simulate things like Lord of the Rings, and a lot of other modern fantasy fiction. Mythic rules were designed to simulate something closer to Greek mythology. Think Hercules or Perseus instead of Argorn .
It can be fun but you need to abandon your concept of balanced, because it is not. Mythic is a chance to go crazy with your character.
If you want to stay with Tolkien, Mythic is playing in the First Era (the Simmarillon) instead of the Third Era (Lord of the Ring).
If you want to stay with Tolkien, Mythic is playing in the First Era (the Simmarillon) instead of the Third Era (Lord of the Ring).If you are playing in a mythic campaign you will quickly find that most if not all of it is overpowered. Mythic rules are designed that way and they actually get a lot worse than that. Normal pathfinder rules were designed to simulate things like Lord of the Rings, and a lot of other modern fantasy fiction. Mythic rules were designed to simulate something closer to Greek mythology. Think Hercules or Perseus instead of Argorn .
It can be fun but you need to abandon your concept of balanced, because it is not. Mythic is a chance to go crazy with your character.
That's a good analogy, as Middle Earth has become substantially less magical over time.
Just for the sake of discussion, Pathfinder would be the Second Age, not the Third as magic is more prevalent on Golarion at the time of the various campaigns than on Middle Earth during wanderings of our two Hobbits^^
Although their arguments are good, it has nothing to do with what the person asked, is the wild Arcana powerful or not and why? and what cases can be applied, convert a caster in a spell casting machine without spending a single slot, among other things; that's what is being pointed out
The OP did not ask if it was powerful, they asked if it was overpowered. Compared to non-mythic spell caster it is definitely over powered. Compared to other mythic options it is not.
Channel power is a lot more powerful than being able to cast a few more spells. Doing 50% more damage, imposing a -4 penalty on the spell, and ignoring spell resistance is a lot worse. The extra damage also stacks with empowered spell.
Mythic is pretty gonzo. Just wait until people start using Mythic Vital Strike.
It's been clarified. It is a swift action to activate Wild Arcana, but the caster still has to use the standard action to cast the actual spell. This is not a shortcut to swift action spellcasting and is something that people got confused over very early on.
I see the mythical book as a version of the epic d & d manual only something more powerful (especially the spell caster parts), PCs gain extra life and additional ability but do not earn either BA or ST; and since they are not subject to the level system but to alternate events, it does not affect the character at all. if we converted this system to d & d each level of mythical would increase the character's ECL to +1 for each tier won
It's been clarified. It is a swift action to activate Wild Arcana, but the caster still has to use the standard action to cast the actual spell. This is not a shortcut to swift action spellcasting and is something that people got confused over very early on.
That doesn't follow at all, because the same text is used for Arcane Surge. Wild Arcana being a swift action is just a mistake. It's been corrected in FAQ and in the official online document as being a standard action.
Arcane Surge (Su): As a swift action, you can expend one use of mythic power to cast any one arcane spell without expending a prepared spell or spell slot.
Wild Arcana (Su): As a swift action, you can expend one use of mythic power to cast any one arcane spell without expending a prepared spell or spell slot.
Lot of 1e in general is over powered, mythic just tunes it up to eleven
In a vacuum, not that much is. But when you allow things from obscure books over the course of a decade to mix in ways that weren't intended, yeah plenty of it can become so.
That's a good analogy, as Middle Earth has become substantially less magical over time.
It's pretty good, but I would say that standard Pathfinder is much more akin to Sword and Sorcery genre fiction than The Lord of the Rings. Magic is much more subtle and nebulous in Tolkien's work than magic missiles and fireballs. Aragorn's most astounding feats of physical prowess were really just running real far and staying awake for a long time.
..anyway. Back to the actual point of the thread!