INTEREST CHECK: Converted City of the Spider Queen


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Alright, so a small confession: more or less for fun I have converted about 4/5 of the D&D 3.0 adventure City of the Spider Queen to Pathfinder.

I don't have any plans to run it IRL and honestly my IRL group isn't all that interested--drow kind of wore out their welcome in our circles--but I figure why let good conversion work go to waste so I'm putting out some feelers here!

The adventure starts at Lvl10 and carries the party all the way to Lvl17 or 18 by the end. While drow are the central antagonists it also features plenty of undead, demons, giants, and assorted aberrations. It takes place in the Forgotten Realms setting so I'd be using that cosmology/deities/etc but otherwise standard Pathfinder 1e rules. Be aware I would be applying the rules of faezress (a sort of magical radiation that occurs in some places of the Underdark) so teleportation will be very iffy.

NOTE: this would be in addition to my upcoming PF1 modules converted to PF2, not replacing it. Assuming there's sufficient interest in both.


I’m intrigued enough to want to hear more.


(Still interested in the PF1 adventures converted to PF2...)


I am interested in playing this adventure if it is 1E. Can support with my usual Arcanist, or can sit back and see what holes need to be plugged in a group.


This one is PF1, yes

I will also be running some PF1 modules that have been converted but that's a separate interest check I posted a week or two ago.


definitely interested.
How do you feel about a CN exiled drow that above all wants to get revenge against the Lolthite drow society that banished him from the Underdark?


This sounds potentially interesting so I'd like to know more at the very least.


You’ve peaked my interest. I’d love to hear more details.

Grand Lodge

interested...any details?


Interested!


Interested. What are the races that would fit the adventure best?


Not knowing what details are wanted, the setting (on the surface) is the Dalelands and the forest of Cormanthor, formerly the heart of one of the greatest elven empires since the Crown Wars. The Dalelands are loosely analogous to Nirmathas--occasional invasions from the city-states of the Moonsea are attempted (especially from the Zhentarim of Zhentil Keep) and the forest is now home to gnolls, orcs, and drow. There's also the notorious ruin of Myth Drannor, an elven city now haunted by fiends and monsters whose decaying mythal makes it even more dangerous.

An in-depth knowledge of FR isn't really necessary since it takes place almost entirely in the Underdark, and I'd be looking for 4-5 players at most. I tend towards the permissive side on races and 3pp but I reserve the right to veto, of course. I'd be looking for characters with a vested interest in protecting the locals from the threat--without getting into spoilers, a focus on "revenge against the drow" wouldn't be a great fit given some of the plot twists.

Most common races (though some would be viewed with varying degrees of hostility) would be humans, half-elves, elves, gnolls, orcs, and drow. Tieflings would be easy to justify given the presence of Myth Drannor, dwarves or half-orcs shouldn't be too difficult either. The local Underdark hosts troglodytes, goblins, drow, svirfneblin, duergar, and grimlocks (Medium-sized blind humanoids with 30ft blindsight) in no particular order. Since it's mostly underground the ability to operate comfortably in the dark would be very handy.

Grand Lodge

Character generation details? Point buy or roll...and 10th level you said?


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On another note: Forgotten Realms is basically single-handedly the reason why everyone I know (and probably who you know!) rolls their eyes when drow are so much as mentioned. They are not well handled, what with being effortlessly Better Than You but also with a relentless focus on how sexually available they are as a substitute for being actual characters. Depictions of drow throughout the 2000s were often in the "poorly thought out" to "outright misogynistic" ranges.

This is just to say that I'll be adjusting the way the drow operate to be a little less ham-handed caricatures. They're still (mostly) demon-worshipping slavers but the constant femme fatale drumbeat will be dialed back.

@Grimdog this is just an interest check, not a recruitment just yet. Probably 20 point buy and using Elephant in the Room, plus a handful of other houserules I have regarding shields, firearms, etc. That can all wait for the full recruitment though.

Grand Lodge

ah ok cool.


Class limitations and alignment limitations? A 10th level version of this THIS, for example, would probably be my submision.


No restrictions for Paizo classes, case-by-case for anything else. No evil alignments.


How are you in Spheres of Power and/or Might? I'm rather enjoying a game in which we use that so I might want to use it a bit more.

Just checking what kind of possibilities there would be.


Skimmed the Spheres books a few weeks ago and wasn't dazzled, going to say no to that.

Liberty's Edge

There aren’t enough mid-high level games. I’m interested. Is there somewhere players unfamiliar with the world might read up more on this adventure, a Paizo-esq Players Guide, perhaps?


As a fan of FR from the grey box, I'd be interested as well.

I'm not as much a fan of the recent incarnation of FR, but I've always loved the Drow lore be it Erelhei-Cinlu (Greyhawk) or Menzoberranzan (FR).


Keeping an eye here, as per usual. Thanks for offering to run it, Crusader - with the good interest here, I hope you put the show on the road.


Just to be clear, yeah, I'm at least interested. High level play doesn't come along that often.


Sounds like a good adventure for my insect obsessed wizard.


Interested, but can't make time for it in my schedule. Just wanted to stop in and say I remember the Forgotten Realms fondly, and as someone who's also GMing some classic D&D stuff, it's pretty cool that you're going to run this. Bravo!


Sounds good to me. I guess I was mostly curious about general ideas about character creation like you gave, and what kind of gameplay style you were looking for.


I spent years both playing and GMing in FR, and I do miss it a great deal (especially up through the 3rd edition timeline). You can count me as most definitely interested (like so many others who have already posted the same).


@Ruin Explorer in addition to the character creation rules I'm always interested in strong rp, even if combat breaks out, and even during combat. I don't have anything against strong mechanical builds (please avoid the most absurd hacks though, I'll say no!) as long as it doesn't come at the cost of strong roleplaying when the time is right--which is almost always!

As far as tone, I'm going for grim enough to convey the dire situation that underpins the adventure, without getting gratuitous. I don't do sexual violence or harm to children except in the most general hand-wavium "something bad happened, here's an Attic Whisperer" sort of way. Not terribly interested in Power Team Cleans Up the Underdark but the updated encounters should still be challenging even for a well-made high level party :)


I love the Realms, love the Drow, and love the concept of this game!! Will be looking forward to the recruitment!


Looking forward to the recruitment.


Hmmmmm...maybe I CAN adjust my schedule for this. Really miss the Forgotten Realms. :D Looking forward to the recruitment.


Sounds great. I'm interested.


I love drow, love FR, and would love to play this.

I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter!

Sczarni

sounds very interesting...


I would be interested as well. City of the Spider Queen is one of my favorite adventures of the 3e era, and stands up nicely to its predecessors in Greyhawk and the setting neutral 2e Night Below. I assume you would use FR pantheons and potentially 3.x FR legacy material?


FR was my introduction to D&D 30 years ago. I have very found memories of it and would love to adventure in/below the Dalelands. I didn't like the 3E changes, and don't fully remember them, but I'll roll with whatever time you are using.


FR was where I started roleplaying. Played it for more than a decade and always liked it. Most of it anyway.

I'm thinking of making a Changeling Witch. Would that be acceptable?

If not I'll go with Tiefling.


I would be interested as well.


dot for interest


Alright, there's sufficient interest in this, and I've done enough of the work already that I'll do a recruitment sometime soon. I am already committed to a recruitment thread of PF1 modules converted to PF2, so I will get that done before coming back to CotSQ.


Is a runaway tiefling born to drow parents too edgy?


Only if he twin-wields angst and has a puma he talks to.


I swear if y'all just recreate the Companions of the Hall I'll nuke this thread from orbit!

Otherwise I don't have an objection to a drow-heritage tiefling but it might face an extra degree of scrutiny. Not moreso than, like, a grippli or something would though.

Liberty's Edge

You will let me play a grippli swashbuckler and you will like it!


I'll keep an eye on this as well!

Silver Crusade

definite dot.


I'm always a little hard-pressed to start a game at a higher level, but I've been wanting to run this game for ages. I'll dot and see how things look when the recruitment gets going.


What about a servant of Eilistrae?


Color me interested as well


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Glad to see there's interest here. I'm wrapping up my PF2-converted module recruitment, once that is underway I'll come back to this campaign with a recruitment thread. I estimate 2-3 weeks.

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