So something that has been on my mind a little bit. I'll warn you now, it's more a semantic thing than anything else...
I am currently running two level 1 characters, and I am one of those guys who plans ahead way to much.
Funny thing is both of them "dipped" at level 1, one for RP reasons, the other is more a mechanical thing.
This got me thinking, is it really a "dip" if it happens at level one? A dip is usually a drop in and back out type of thing, this is starting somewhere and going somewhere else...
IMHO, that's just dipping backwards. You're still doing it just to grab some early class features.
When I (plan to) multiclass, I tend to go full-BAB first, just so I can have that BAB at level 1 and draw a weapon on the move, or use Power Attack. The few more HP at level 1 can also make a difference. >_>
Oh I realize it is just a Out of character terminology thing, even address it in the original post. Still don't feel quite right calling it a dip when you are not leaving something else for it...
Okay. Just for shiggles, we will define a dip to be leaving one class for a level or two, only to return to it at later levels.
As a subset or alternate to the "accepted" definition of a dip, we will now call the level 1 pick before altering the "Cha Cha slide" :p
LOL- The Cha Cha slide it is
Cha Cha Slide definitely sets it apart from Dip. And anything more than a Dip is just normal Multiclassing. Anything more than normal Multiclassing is called a Scott.
Now, does a Cha Cha Slide refer to only starting one level then seeking your main class? Are TWO levels allowed in a Cha Cha Slide? If so, do both levels have to be in the same class? I just want to define the boundaries of what counts as a Cha Cha Slide.
It DOES have two "cha's"... and there is a trait that makes up for two caster levels... so it seems that two levels should be allowed in a Cha Cha Slide.
But it sounds simple and cute, which kind of makes me think that both levels would have to be in the same class for it to qualify as a Cha Cha Slide.
I agree the change cha shall allow up to two levels of the same class
I would have understood dipping as restricting your PC to only "few" levels (1, 2, maybe 3) in at least one class. So by this definition a half-elf martial with Multitalented Mastery could consist of dips only.
Dipping is just the act of taking 1 level of 2 or more classes to gain the 1st level class abilities of multiple classes. While I've never played one, I have theory crafted a (nearly) full BAB character that dips 6 classes to get +12 base Fort save as early as possible to abuse the Equipment feats.
Is a character that never takes more than 1 level in any class really dipping? Since you aren't going to get a classes high level abilities doing this, you have incentive to go into a prestige class and grab its end-level ability to make up for all of the dips.
I would say they are meandering instead of dipping. I had not considered doing a prestige class on one of the two characters (not a lot of good Clerical prestige classes IMO)
Dipping is just the act of taking 1 level of 2 or more classes to gain the 1st level class abilities of multiple classes. While I've never played one, I have theory crafted a (nearly) full BAB character that dips 6 classes to get +12 base Fort save as early as possible to abuse the Equipment feats.
Is a character that never takes more than 1 level in any class really dipping? Since you aren't going to get a classes high level abilities doing this, you have incentive to go into a prestige class and grab its end-level ability to make up for all of the dips.
No, this even exceeds normal multiclassing and is referred to as a Scott. Meandering is an accurate description of what is going on when one pulls a Scott. Scott builds are often a balance of focused chaos, a discombobulated maelstrom of nonsense until you pan out to see the bigger picture...
Why Scott? Scott is a very straight forward guy who makes fairly decent builds, nothing too fancy, and rarely does any multiclassing.
"I'm no stranger to sarcasm, Sir."
-Grif, red team.PS. I don't know Scott, personally, and I very much enjoy the builds Scott posts. Those builds are always overflowing with flavor and fun, I find most of Scott's builds to be quite inspiring.
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Lol, that's the first thing that popped into my head when I read the title of this thread.
I put my hand up on your hip; when I dip you dip we dip.
-"Da Dip." Freak Nasty.
The only Scott I know is a read headed stepchild. Last time I played with him was pfs many years ago, he had an axe-beak riding samurai.