Risky Surgery and Ward Medic Interactions


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Would I need to do a risky surgery while using Ward medic to help 2 people at once, I am guessing that I will need to do 2 separate risky surgery checks? Then I can perform the treat deadly wounds.

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You never 'need' to do 'Risky Surgery'.

There is no specific 'Risky Surgery' check.

If you choose to use 'Risky Surgery', you inflict 1d8 damage on your target and then make your next 'Treat Wounds' check at a +2 bonus: If you succeed on this check, you get a Critical Success instead (which means an additional 2d8 healed).

When using Ward Medic, my group has been making one 'treat wounds' check and applying the results to all targets/patients.

If you use 'Risky Surgery' on multiple patients at once:
Inflict 1d8 damage on each patient
Make your 'Treat Wounds' check with the +2 bonus:
Critical Failure: Inflict another 1d8 damage on each patient
Failure: No healing
Success: Treat as critical Success
Critical Success: Each patient is healed of 4d8 HP plus the fixed bonus for the specific Proficiency/DC used.


Taja the Barbarian wrote:

You never 'need' to do 'Risky Surgery'.

There is no specific 'Risky Surgery' check.

If you choose to use 'Risky Surgery', you inflict 1d8 damage on your target and then make your next 'Treat Wounds' check at a +2 bonus: If you succeed on this check, you get a Critical Success instead (which means an additional 2d8 healed).

When using Ward Medic, my group has been making one 'treat wounds' check and applying the results to all targets/patients.

If you use 'Risky Surgery' on multiple patients at once:
Inflict 1d8 damage on each patient
Make your 'Treat Wounds' check with the +2 bonus:
Critical Failure: Inflict another 1d8 damage on each patient
Failure: No healing
Success: Treat as critical Success
Critical Success: Each patient is healed of 4d8 HP plus the fixed bonus for the specific Proficiency/DC used.

WOW A simple yes or no would have sufficed. You severely overcomplicate the answer. You do need to do a risky surgery or else you don't get the benefit. I didn't need a full explanation on everything. Please do not over complicate an explain everything. This turned out to be less helpful as I had to read through everything to find your one line that said Inflict 1d8 damage on each patient.

I hate when people feel the need to explain EVERYTHING. Especially when not needed. I didn't ask for all of that. A SIMPLE YES OR NO. It seems like you think I don't know how to use the abilities. I asked the table I was sitting at an everyone felt it wasn't as clear.


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Slow your roll, Michael. Taja answered your question thorougly because it's polite and nice to have all in one place so other users don't need to scour across multiple threads with limited info.

I'm not sure what's going on in your life, but Taja didn't deserve that.


cavernshark wrote:

Slow your roll, Michael. Taja answered your question thorougly because it's polite and nice to have all in one place so other users don't need to scour across multiple threads with limited info.

I'm not sure what's going on in your life, but Taja didn't deserve that.

I asked a simple yes or no question. That simple. Nothing is going on. Thats the problem, being polite it not the case. I didn't ask for a thorough answer. Simple as that. Keep the answers to what the person asked for. Simple as that. I hate going in to other posts and seeing these elaborate answers when it clearly isn't needed.

If I wanted more I would have asked for a full on description. It isn't a hard concept. I asked a yes or no question, meaning that's all I wanted, that is all that was needed.


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Micheal Smith wrote:

I didn't ask for a thorough answer.

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I asked a yes or no question, meaning that's all I wanted, that is all that was needed.

Unfortunately, when you make a public post on Paizo boards, you don't get to control who responds or how they respond.

Any attempt to control the rest of the thread is futile, and complaining that you don't have control over other forum posters and criticizing people for not following your secret rules is, at best, a display of your own emotional state.

Someone pointed out that you seem irritated. You responded with more irritation.


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Micheal Smith wrote:
cavernshark wrote:

Slow your roll, Michael. Taja answered your question thorougly because it's polite and nice to have all in one place so other users don't need to scour across multiple threads with limited info.

I'm not sure what's going on in your life, but Taja didn't deserve that.

I asked a simple yes or no question. That simple. Nothing is going on. Thats the problem, being polite it not the case. I didn't ask for a thorough answer. Simple as that. Keep the answers to what the person asked for. Simple as that. I hate going in to other posts and seeing these elaborate answers when it clearly isn't needed.

If I wanted more I would have asked for a full on description. It isn't a hard concept. I asked a yes or no question, meaning that's all I wanted, that is all that was needed.

If that's all you wanted or needed, you should have stated as such in the opening post. And honestly, for such a simplistic and binary answer, that you very easily could have found out for yourself , I don't see why you needed to make a whole thread about it just to chew out someone who wrote stuff up to explain the reasoning behind how their table ran the combination in an attempt to help you.

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Micheal Smith wrote:
cavernshark wrote:

Slow your roll, Michael. Taja answered your question thorougly because it's polite and nice to have all in one place so other users don't need to scour across multiple threads with limited info.

I'm not sure what's going on in your life, but Taja didn't deserve that.

I asked a simple yes or no question. That simple. Nothing is going on. Thats the problem, being polite it not the case. I didn't ask for a thorough answer. Simple as that. Keep the answers to what the person asked for. Simple as that. I hate going in to other posts and seeing these elaborate answers when it clearly isn't needed.

If I wanted more I would have asked for a full on description. It isn't a hard concept. I asked a yes or no question, meaning that's all I wanted, that is all that was needed.

Your original question was, to put it mildly, a bit of a mess:
Micheal Smith wrote:
Would I need to do a risky surgery while using Ward medic to help 2 people at once, I am guessing that I will need to do 2 separate risky surgery checks? Then I can perform the treat deadly wounds.

Honestly, I couldn't figure out what your exact question was, so I covered the entire interaction to increase the chances your question was actually answered...

Apparently, I succeeded, so you're welcome!

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