Twinned Feint / Feint Partner + Tactician

[Blue_Sky]

The idea is to use the tactician class feature, or Battle Song of the People's Revolt, to spread around Feint Partner or the improved version. Then, as a move action with improved feint, you start feinting opponents while granting allies AoOs all around. Any thoughts on this? I was thinking either a bard or drill sergeant fighter could pull this off.

(Just for a structure to theory craft the above with, we'll go with 20 point buy, only and all paizo, and 5th level)

[avr]

Tactician only works with one feat that was chosen when they got that class feature, the drill sergeant will have to wait until 9th (greater tactician) to share improved feint partner. A bard gets +6 BAB at 8th and a feat after that at 9th. A bit later than you're suggesting. Merely sharing feints doesn't do much that greater feint doesn't do on its own, with less setup required.

[Ryan Freire]

Blue_Sky wrote:

The idea is to use the tactician class feature, or Battle Song of the People's Revolt, to spread around Feint Partner or the improved version. Then, as a move action with improved feint, you start feinting opponents while granting allies AoOs all around. Any thoughts on this? I was thinking either a bard or drill sergeant fighter could pull this off.

(Just for a structure to theory craft the above with, we'll go with 20 point buy, only and all paizo, and 5th level)

Works best with a hunter, that has an animal companion with a single big attack, like a T-rex.

Wallace the whirlwind is relevant

[Scott Wilhelm]

avr wrote:

Tactician only works with one feat that was chosen when they got that class feature, the drill sergeant will have to wait until 9th (greater tactician) to share improved feint partner. A bard gets +6 BAB at 8th and a feat after that at 9th. A bit later than you're suggesting. Merely sharing feints doesn't do much that greater feint doesn't do on its own, with less setup required.

Paladins' Tactician works with all Teamwork Feats, las I checked.

Inquisitors can use all their Teamworks Feats, but just for themselves.

I'm thinking maybe you could take lots of Teamwork Feats for yourself with Inquisitor that give you Attacks of Opportunity, then dip a level in Cavalier or something and share those AoOs with the rest of the party.

[Wonderstell]

Blue_Sky wrote:

(Just for a structure to theory craft the above with, we'll go with 20 point buy, only and all paizo, and 5th level)

But Improved Feint Partner has a requirement of BAB +6? Surely you mean 6th level.

Anywho, I've played one of those before. Just get some way to give out teamwork feats without relying on once per day abilities, and you'll be good to go. You definitely want the Equipment Trick feat, though.

Lawful Good lv 6 build, any race:

Warrior Poet 1
Combat Reflexes, Weapon Finesse (B), Improved Feint (B), Kitsune’s Mystique

Vigilante (Avenger) 1-2
2 Social Grace (Bluff)
3 Equipment Trick (Cloak), Power Attack (B), Shield of Blades

Holy Tactician 1-3
4
5 Feint Partner, Divine Grace
6 Improved Feint Partner (B), Battlefield Presence

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Feint skill modifier:
9 (ranks+class) +4 (Social Grace) +3 (Charisma) +3 (Dirty Fighter) +2 (MWK tool) +2 (Ioun Stone, Competence)
= +23

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Summarized:

Equipment Trick (Cloak) gives us the option to make a modified feint attempt to everyone who can see us. Improved Feint Partner is given out to allies through Battlefield Presence, and has no limit on uses per day or duration.
So you make an AoE feint attempt against everyone who can see you as a move action, and everyone provokes AoO from your allies.

Elven Branched Spear or Glaive to use Weapon Finesse with a reach weapon. Dexterity and Charisma are the most important attributes.
Recommended traits would be Dirty Fighter for +3 to Feint, and maybe Power of Suggestion since your Bluff modifier will be quite high.

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If you don't want to be forced into playing LG, I'd say one level of Guiding Blade Swashbuckler should last you a whole day. They give out teamwork feats, and gain back Panache from ally killing blows.