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Basically, the conflict here comes up that the Training enchantment is relatively unique among enchantments, being that it explicitly states that you CAN put it on a weapon multiple times
It does?
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If the feat stacks, having multiples of the feat would stack regardless of the source.
That said, I wouldn't allow this (even if I was generally allowing that third party product and that feat). First off, despite what the third party product called it, it doesn't seem to me to be a combat feat to me. Run isn't after all.
Secondly, I am not a fan of how open the training enchantment is combined with the loose definition of 'wielding' for pathfinder. Personally, I only allow training to work with feats that specifically relate to combat with that weapon, so two weapon fighting or power attack is good, but dodge wouldn't be. Obviously this is a houserule, but players in other games that follow it voluntarily probably won't have conflicts with their GM about whether something should be allowed or if they are wielding the weapon or whatever.
Basically, the conflict here comes up that the Training enchantment is relatively unique among enchantments, being that it explicitly states that you CAN put it on a weapon multiple timesIt does?
It does not!
I cannot find where training can be placed multiple times.
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Popular among those who seek to impersonate skilled warriors, a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. The feat is chosen when this special ability is placed on the weapon. That feat cannot be used as a prerequisite for any other feats and functions for the wielder only if she meets its prerequisites. Once chosen, the feat stored in the weapon cannot be changed.
The bolded part will resolve Dave doubts, as it specifies that the weapon should be draw and in hand, but doesn't require to actively use it.
Weapons cannot possess the same special ability more than once.
This and the lack of specific text allowing multiple instances of the same special ability in the above quote say that you can place training only once on a weapon.
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Popular among those who seek to impersonate skilled warriors, a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. The feat is chosen when this special ability is placed on the weapon. That feat cannot be used as a prerequisite for any other feats and functions for the wielder only if she meets its prerequisites. Once chosen, the feat stored in the weapon cannot be changed.The bolded part will resolve Dave doubts, as it specifies that the weapon should be draw and in hand, but doesn't require to actively use it.
Weapons cannot possess the same special ability more than once.This and the lack of specific text allowing multiple instances of the same special ability in the above quote say that you can place training only once on a weapon.
So training (power attack) on my gauntlets will let me power attack with my greatsword?
Popular among those who seek to impersonate skilled warriors, a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. The feat is chosen when this special ability is placed on the weapon. That feat cannot be used as a prerequisite for any other feats and functions for the wielder only if she meets its prerequisites. Once chosen, the feat stored in the weapon cannot be changed.The bolded part will resolve Dave doubts, as it specifies that the weapon should be draw and in hand, but doesn't require to actively use it.
Actually it will not. Plenty of places that falls down.
Does that mean training doesn't work with any weapon that isn't weilded in a hand? Or are we talking virtual hands here?
Does that mean training doesn't work with any weapon that doesn't have a sheathe? After all, if it can't be sheathed, it can't be drawn.
Training doesn't generally cause any problems on the main weapon for a martial. It causes problems when the caster has armor spikes of dodge on his haramaki and a shield spike of improved initiative on his mithral buckler.
I'm sorry of some people misunderstood me. My point about 'drawn' was that it is obviously not the case that only weapons with sheathes are compatible with training enchantment.
My point was that the 'drawn and in hand' clause can't be interpreted super strongly, and if it isn't interpreted super strongly it isn't strong enough to meaningfully limit what I consider training enhancements that aren't appropriate.
It was an attempt to do so, but it was, at least in my opinion, a failure.
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You might find the defending weapon property faq relevant:
"Yes. Merely holding a defending weapon is not sufficient. Unless otherwise specified, you have to use a magic item in the manner it is designed (use a weapon to make attacks, wear a shield on your arm so you can defend with it, and so on) to gain its benefits.
Therefore, if you don't make an attack roll with a defending weapon on your turn, you don't gain its defensive benefit.
Likewise, while you can give a shield the defending property (after you've given it a +1 enhancement bonus to attacks, of course), you wouldn't get the AC bonus from the defending property unless you used the shield to make a shield bash that round--unless you're using the shield as a weapon (to make a shield bash), the defending weapon property has no effect."
I feel like RAW is useless when it comes to the training enchantment, since it's muddy and ambiguous and potentially contradictory.
So if you want to use it, just ask your GM "can I do this?"
Unfortunately, it isn't relevant.
Training is valid for the improved initiative feat, but if you say unless you have made an attack that round it doesn't function then it is impossible to ever actually use it. Personally, I'm not opposed to that, but it is an interpretation considerably beyond the scope of defending weapon FAQ, where you are transferring an attack enhancement bonus to defense.
And of course, in this case, it is otherwise specified. Training says it functions as long as drawn and in hand, and doesn't require an making an attack to use it.
You couldn't put the entire TWF feat chain on a weapon, because it explicitly says that it cannot be used as a prerequisite for another feat.
So, even if you could put it on the same weapon more than once, which you can't, you have to the capstone feat of whatever chain you are trying to complete... and possess the rest of them yourself.
It's a fun enchantment to put on loot for general purpose crap like a bow with Point Blank Shot in it, or creating player specific loot.