Trigger for using shield block is taking damage...


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does that mean before or after actually rolling the damage?
Because if the damage is rolled before the shield block is assigned the blocking player never risks a dent, only blocking damage lower than the shields hardness.
After being hit and knowing that damage is incoming but before actually rolling the damage would be the more logic solution in my opinion. The second damage is roled it’s allready in your face and no time for reactions left...what do you think?


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Shield block says that it's triggered when you take damage, so the damage is already rolled. Yes, it's kinda gamey, but you know how much damage is incoming and can make the decision on whether to block or not based on that.


With the low hardness of shields/ease of denting, it seems fine to me.


Dasrak wrote:
Shield block says that it's triggered when you take damage, so the damage is already rolled. Yes, it's kinda gamey, but you know how much damage is incoming and can make the decision on whether to block or not based on that.

Ok thank you, understood. That makes the rule even more stupid than before...


Corradh wrote:
With the low hardness of shields/ease of denting, it seems fine to me.

Well in later levels shield block becomes obsolete because of the enormous amounts of damage dealt. In low levels when damage is mosrtly roundabout a d6 for mobs the shield block with a heavy steel shield hardness 5 makes you close to invulnerable.

So sword and board in lvl 1 to maybe 3 later on especially when having a +1 two handed weapon, shield block time is over...


Thravion wrote:
Corradh wrote:
With the low hardness of shields/ease of denting, it seems fine to me.

Well in later levels shield block becomes obsolete because of the enormous amounts of damage dealt. In low levels when damage is mosrtly roundabout a d6 for mobs the shield block with a heavy steel shield hardness 5 makes you close to invulnerable.

So sword and board in lvl 1 to maybe 3 later on especially when having a +1 two handed weapon, shield block time is over...

(if we go with the interpretation of 1 dent/block that seems prevalent in this forums)

As an example, a sturdy level 2 shield gives you +18 temp hp per battle at level 2. At that level a martial has like 30-32hp.

Later on, like level 10,you get 45 temp hp. When you have 139, still pretty good.

If you're a paladin those are more or less doubled to 40/85 respectively.

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