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Orcs' Ferocity in the bestiary is not listed as 1/day. Is this correct?
Humans get "One additional language, selected from
those to which you have access" but does not explain which ones they can access.
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When, let's say the Fighter, says that they're "Trained in a number of skills equal to 3 plus your Intelligence modifier", is this only when they go into level 1, or does this count throughout the Fighter's life? Like, if their Intelligence modifier goes up by 1, do they get an extra skill trained? Likewise, if their Intelligence modifier goes down by 1, do they lose a skill trained?ability changes are retroactive.
so yes, they gain a "trained" skill when they increase Int (but not upgrade an already tained to expert or higher)
That is my thought as well, and it's a rule in PF1, but I haven't been able to find it stated in the playtest rules. Where is it?
on my cellphone atm so i can't "search" the pdf. But one place i remember it stated it was (edit:) in the Potent section of magic itemsThat is my thought as well, and it's a rule in PF1, but I haven't been able to find it stated in the playtest rules. Where is it?When, let's say the Fighter, says that they're "Trained in a number of skills equal to 3 plus your Intelligence modifier", is this only when they go into level 1, or does this count throughout the Fighter's life? Like, if their Intelligence modifier goes up by 1, do they get an extra skill trained? Likewise, if their Intelligence modifier goes down by 1, do they lose a skill trained?ability changes are retroactive.
so yes, they gain a "trained" skill when they increase Int (but not upgrade an already tained to expert or higher)
Ah, found it. Thanks. That doesn't quite say that the same holds true for level-up ability boosts, but the intent is clear. Still, it should be stated explicitly somewhere, preferably early.
Humans get "One additional language, selected from
those to which you have access" but does not explain which ones they can access.
The Ethnicities (except Taldan) provide "access" to given languages, otherwise it can be infered (but isn't ever stated outright) that a character also has access to their regional language (thankfully for the poor Taldans).
p.85, bear animal companion description
"Work Together Benefit Your bear mauls your enemies when
you create an opening. Until your next turn, all your weapon
Strikes against a creature your bear threatens deal 1d8
additional slashing damage. If your bear has a specialization,
the additional slashing damage increases to 2d8."
Sounds like it is the bear creates an openiong, not you, and you are the one who benefits from it.
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Question #1
Can the bonus class feat from Natural Ambition be used to purchase a multiclass feat in place of a class feat provided the player meets the prerequisites?
NATURAL AMBITION
You were raised to be ambitious and always reach for the stars, causing you to progress quickly in your chosen field. You gain a 1st-level class feat for your class.
Applying an archetype requires you to spend your class feats on archetype feats instead of class feats. Start by finding the archetype that best fits your character concept, and select the archetype’s dedication feat using one of your class feat choices. Once you have the dedication feat, you can select any feat from that archetype in place of a class feat as long as you meet its prerequisites.
Example: Gish the Human Wizard decides to multiclass into Fighter. They take Fighter Dedication as their 2nd level class feat, Basic Maneuver as their 4th level class feat, and select Natural Ambition as their 5th level Ancestry Feat, gaining a 1st level class feat. Can Gish use this class feat to purchase the archetype feat Fighter Resiliency?
Question #2
Table 5-1 on p. 160 lists Non-Skill Feats.
Several of these feats carry the Skill trait in their individual description.
Can the following Feats be selected using a Skill feat?
Diehard
Feather Step
Fleet
Question #3
You cast spells like a cleric. ...Choose a deity as you would if you were a cleric. You’re bound by that deity’s anathema.
Your deity also adds spells to your spell list. When preparing spells, you can select from these in addition to the spells on the divine list once you can cast that level of spell.
Does a character with the Cleric Dedication and Basic Cleric Spellcasting archetype feats add their deity's 1st level Domain spell to their spell list?
Question #1
Can the bonus class feat from Natural Ambition be used to purchase a multiclass feat in place of a class feat provided the player meets the prerequisites?
NATURAL AMBITION
You were raised to be ambitious and always reach for the stars, causing you to progress quickly in your chosen field. You gain a 1st-level class feat for your class.Applying an archetype requires you to spend your class feats on archetype feats instead of class feats. Start by finding the archetype that best fits your character concept, and select the archetype’s dedication feat using one of your class feat choices. Once you have the dedication feat, you can select any feat from that archetype in place of a class feat as long as you meet its prerequisites.Example: Gish the Human Wizard decides to multiclass into Fighter. They take Fighter Dedication as their 2nd level class feat, Basic Maneuver as their 4th level class feat, and select Natural Ambition as their 5th level Ancestry Feat, gaining a 1st level class feat. Can Gish use this class feat to purchase the archetype feat Fighter Resiliency?
This is an easy one. Fighter Resiliency is a level 4 feat, and therefore invalid.
This is an easy one. Fighter Resiliency is a level 4 feat, and therefore invalid.
Read the rules for selecting archetype feats closely. I bolded the important bit.
Applying an archetype requires you to spend your class feats on archetype feats instead of class feats. Start by finding the archetype that best fits your character concept, and select the archetype’s dedication feat using one of your class feat choices. Once you have the dedication feat, you can select any feat from that archetype in place of a class feat as long as you meet its prerequisites.
Natural Ambition grants a 1st level class feat. You can select any feat from your archetype in place of a class feat so long as you meet the archetype feat's prerequisites. Ergo, you can select an archetype feat in place of a 1st level class feat unless you know of a rule that says this is an exception to the rules for archetypes?
You gain an Ancestry Feat at 5th level, which can be used to select Natural Ambition, gaining a 1st level Class Feat, and you already possess your Dedication feat if you've selected it at 2nd or 4th level. Per the wording of the rules on p. 279, any Class Feat can be used to select an Archetype Feat, and at 5th level you meet the prerequisites.
Looks legal to me. That's why I'm flagging it for an errata answer.
Playtest rulebook page 293: "Negative damage harms the life force of living creatures, and positive damage hurts undead".
I presume this is supposed to be "Negative _energy_ damage harms the life force of living creatures, and positive _energy_ damage hurts undead".
They're very consistent about using "negative damage" and "positive damage" throughout the book, actually. The odd man out seems to be the Positive trait defined on page 418 saying "deal positive energy damage," which I take to be an error.
(I'm not convinced it's a good idea to omit "energy" from those phrases, but it's definitely intentional.)
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Frightened
You’re gripped by fear and struggle to control your
nerves. The frightened condition always includes
a value. You take a conditional penalty equal to this
value to your checks and saving throws. Unless specified
otherwise, at the end of each of your turns, the value of
your frightened condition decreases by 1.]Sluggish
Your movements become clumsy and inexact. Sluggish
always includes a value. When you are sluggish, you take
a conditional penalty to AC, attack rolls, Dexterity-based
checks, and Reflex saves equal to the condition’s value.Drained
When a creature successfully drains you of blood or
some other life force, you become less healthy. Drained
always includes a value. You take a conditional penalty
equal to the value on Fortitude saves and Constitutionbased
checks.etc, basically all conditions
emm... Saving throws (and attack rolls for that matter, but i let that slide since those can be keyed off 2 abilities instead of 1) ARE checks already.
CHECKS
The GM will call upon you to attempt a check whenever
you need to resolve a conflict or test your aptitude at a
particular task or challenge. Examples include any attempt
to attack another creature in combat, using skills, and
resisting the effects of a dangerous spell that has been cast
upon you. Checks are attempted against the difficulty class
(DC) of the task or challenge to determine success or failure.
Most likely future proofing for if there’s options that let charcaters switch a Stat for a check or something (like how Alchemists use INT for Resonance instead of CHA).
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You gain an Ancestry Feat at 5th level, which can be used to select Natural Ambition, gaining a 1st level Class Feat, and you already possess your Dedication feat if you've selected it at 2nd or 4th level. Per the wording of the rules on p. 279, any Class Feat can be used to select an Archetype Feat, and at 5th level you meet the prerequisites.
Looks legal to me. That's why I'm flagging it for an errata answer.
I’d say no. You gain a 1st level Class Feat, not a floating Class Feat slot.
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I’d say no. You gain a 1st level Class Feat, not a floating Class Feat slot.You gain an Ancestry Feat at 5th level, which can be used to select Natural Ambition, gaining a 1st level Class Feat, and you already possess your Dedication feat if you've selected it at 2nd or 4th level. Per the wording of the rules on p. 279, any Class Feat can be used to select an Archetype Feat, and at 5th level you meet the prerequisites.
Looks legal to me. That's why I'm flagging it for an errata answer.
That's not what he's saying, and by Raw he is correct.
Nothing forbids you to pick up a multiclass feat with a level 1 class feat IF you meet the other requirements.
And by picking the ancestry feat later on, you can do that.
(Not to put words in Rysky's mouth, but:) what Rysky is saying is that Natural Ambition specifies that you gain a 1st level class feat.
The Dedication feat changes what allows fighter archetype feats to count as class feats, but a 4th level class feat ain't a 1st level class feat.
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Rewording this again.
You are in the middle of leveling up to 5th level of your Wizard with the Fighter dedication feat.
For your 5th level Ancestry feat you select Natural Ambition (which gets you a 1st level class feat).
Which feats do you consider 1st level class feats?
How would Fighter Resiliency (a 4th level fighter archetype feat) get to be a 1st level class feat?
Would you allow someone to select Natural Ambition (Conceal Spell) at 5th level?
A minor clarification would be useful on the interaction between the Sorcerer Dangerous Sorcery (feat 1) and Magic Missile.
From a few threads, there's confusion about whether the bonus feat damage is applied once for the multiple-action-cast version, per target, or just once for the whole round, which probably as intended? But if so, how that damage can / should be applied across the multiple missiles. This starts to matter a lot with the heightened versions of the spell.
Keep up the good work! Very curious to see the Errata to find out how shield damage is properly calculated :)
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I’d say no. You gain a 1st level Class Feat, not a floating Class Feat slot.You gain an Ancestry Feat at 5th level, which can be used to select Natural Ambition, gaining a 1st level Class Feat, and you already possess your Dedication feat if you've selected it at 2nd or 4th level. Per the wording of the rules on p. 279, any Class Feat can be used to select an Archetype Feat, and at 5th level you meet the prerequisites.
Looks legal to me. That's why I'm flagging it for an errata answer.
That's not what he's saying, and by Raw he is correct.
Nothing forbids you to pick up a multiclass feat with a level 1 class feat IF you meet the other requirements.
And by picking the ancestry feat later on, you can do that.
(Not to put words in Rysky's mouth, but:) what Rysky is saying is that Natural Ambition specifies that you gain a 1st level class feat.
The Dedication feat changes what allows fighter archetype feats to count as class feats, but a 4th level class feat ain't a 1st level class feat.
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Yep, thank you.
The Feat gives you a specific thing. It doesn’t give you a normal Feat slot that you can use on anything. You have to pick a 1st Level Class Feat with it.
Dispel Magic is missing the heighten superscript on the spell lists as well as any text in the spell description, but the section on counteracting effects implies it can be heightened in order to succeed against higher level spells.
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Dispel Magic is missing the heighten superscript on the spell lists as well as any text in the spell description, but the section on counteracting effects implies it can be heightened in order to succeed against higher level spells.
Thanks to everyone for compiling these! As Stephen says, we've got most of these in our errata document, but we flat out ran out of time before GenCon, with a team chat we made together at home while packing listing the most important errata in case we got a chance to put those up for day 1 (we didn't).
As to this one: The heightened entry and "H" means the spell does something different when you heighten it. You can still heighten any spell you want purely to increase its spell level, generally to help counteract (or make it harder to counteract). Dispel is in that boat.
The Ethnicities (except Taldan) provide "access" to given languages, otherwise it can be infered (but isn't ever stated outright) that a character also has access to their regional language (thankfully for the poor Taldans).Humans get "One additional language, selected from
those to which you have access" but does not explain which ones they can access.
So do Taldans get to choose a common language, or are they a language short in PF2?
And do the half-elf and half-orc feats potentially give a "human" character access to a third language, or just the ability to replace that human ethnic language with the language of their non-human parent?
Angelic Form on p111 grants you both darkvision and low-light vision. Why is this?Acute Vision on p57 does this too. I still don't see why you would ever need both.
Swift Tracker on p116 requires Experienced Tracker. I don't know what that is or where it's mentioned.I realised afterwards that this one is a skill feat (p165).
Low-light vision does't usually have a range associated with it. In the evening, a creature with Darkvision can see e.g. 60 feet clearly, but everything else is concealed due to the twilight conditions. A creature with Low-light vision can see as far as they normally could without issue.
EDIT: Nope, crossing my editions. There's no benefit whatsoever.
The Ethnicities (except Taldan) provide "access" to given languages, otherwise it can be infered (but isn't ever stated outright) that a character also has access to their regional language (thankfully for the poor Taldans).Humans get "One additional language, selected from
those to which you have access" but does not explain which ones they can access.So do Taldans get to choose a common language, or are they a language short in PF2?
And do the half-elf and half-orc feats potentially give a "human" character access to a third language, or just the ability to replace that human ethnic language with the language of their non-human parent?
A Taldan/Chelish character has the same potential number of languages, they just have Access to one fewer languages to choose from. By default this appears to limit them to their regional language.
Half-Elves/Orcs don't explicitly gain Access to their racial language unless they select it as one of the feat's benefits (which grants the language outright, giving you a third language).
Beyond that a player could argue for access to anything using backstory. The playtest rulebook even indicates that a bonus skill feat (specifically Sign Language) is an acceptable reward for a good backstory... though the section could also have been implying the GM would/should allow a customized Background.
Regarding Doomsday Dawn - The Lost Star
Should I run it as is, and how much is a 0th level wand worth? Or should I replace the wand with one containing a 1st level fire spell?
The Lich and Treachery Demon in the Bestiary calculate their Steady Spellcasting value as (2 x level)+1, while the Vampire Wizard and Demonologist calculate this value as (2 x level), in line with the PC class feats.
Angelic Form on p111 grants you both darkvision and low-light vision. Why is this?
Acute Vision on p57 does this too. I still don't see why you would ever need both.Low-light vision does't usually have a range associated with it. In the evening, a creature with Darkvision can see e.g. 60 feet clearly, but everything else is concealed due to the twilight conditions. A creature with Low-light vision can see as far as they normally could without issue.
EDIT: Nope, crossing my editions. There's no benefit whatsoever.
Indeed. That was my conclusion too.
Detecting magic items in loot seems prohibitively time consuming until you are 7th or perhaps 5th level. Detect magic can't pinpoint an aura at all until you're 7th level (heightened to 4th spell level), and then only in a 5' square, not an individual item.
Read Aura takes 10 minutes and only identifies one item as magical per casting until you reach 5th level (3rd spell level), when it can do ten. Prior to that I just don't see parties grabbing every potential magical item and spending 10 minutes per (followed by 1 hour to identify if you don't have the right feat) to find out if they are magical.
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Power attack already scales badly, bus as worded right now, it doesn't even scales at 10 if you pick it up with the Fighter Dedication Archetype.
Going through and collecting errata, and just got to this post! The dice should scale up, because the archetype's limit to your fighter level applies only to prerequisites and Power Attack should care about only your level, not your "fighter level."
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"Drain Arcane Focus" triggers on "your turn begins", and says it gives you the ability to cast a spell you've already cast. To me, this implies that the spell *has* to be one you cast with the first action on your turn, and it's unusable for reactive spells (Feather Fall). Was this the intention?
Technically, it doesn't say that you have to cast the spell this turn, only that you have "the ability to cast one spell you prepared today and previously cast, without spending a spell slot."
If that were the case, you could just take the "Drain Arcane Focus" action the round after you cast your first spell for the day, and you could then cast whatever spell you wanted whenever you have the appropriate action for it, as long as it was one you'd already cast.
I somehow doubt that was the intention, though.
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Padded armour has the fragile quality, meaning it takes less dents to make it broken.p177
Definition of dents is on p175, and states that the amount of damage an item can take is based on its material.
Hit points for material is on p354 (and lets just ignore the bit about armour being made from thicker metal than skields here).
Where do I find out what material padded, splint and scale armour are made of? As an experiened gamer I'n fairly happy to go with cloth, metal and metal respectively, but it's not defined.
Incredible Movement 3rd
You gain a +10-foot conditional bonus to your Speed whenever you’re not wearing armor. The bonus increases by 5 feet for every 3 monk levels you have beyond 3rd.
I'm pretty sure "monk levels" should just be "levels" as there is no such thing as "class level" in the rulebook.
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Raging Resistance 9th
You gain resistance equal to your Constitution modifier (minimum 0) to two damage types based on your totem.
Raging Resistance
The resistance from your raging resistance class feature applies against all physical weapon damage.
If "physical" is a damage type, this is only one; if not, then it's three (B/P/S). Either way, the initial definition of Raging Resistance should say something like "certain" instead of "two."
Petty, I know, but it bothered me.
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When you use Ki Strike, choose whether your ki powers are divine spells or occult spells.
I'm pretty sure that should happen when you get the feat, not when you use it.
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Under spell repotoire for Bard it says they gain 1 1st level spell and 4 cantrips and then says they gain 2 second level spells at 3rd, is this intentional? Based on the line following that states "even though you gain slots and repotoire at the same rate" it makes me feel like this is unintentional, especially since sorcerer gets 2 1st levels and they're the other spontaneous caster.
Counter Performance is impossible to use because it costs 2 reactions
Fascinating Performance states "against Will DC" but I cannot find context for a "Will DC" anywhere, only a will saving throw and skill DCs. Do they receive a save or is it a flat 10+Will check for the Performance?
Under spell repotoire for Bard it says they gain 1 1st level spell and 4 cantrips and then says they gain 2 second level spells at 3rd, is this intentional? Based on the line following that states "even though you gain slots and repotoire at the same rate" it makes me feel like this is unintentional, especially since sorcerer gets 2 1st levels and they're the other spontaneous caster.
Counter Performance is impossible to use because it costs 2 reactions
Fascinating Performance states "against Will DC" but I cannot find context for a "Will DC" anywhere, only a will saving throw and skill DCs. Do they receive a save or is it a flat 10+Will check for the Performance?
I thought the same too about the Bard's 1st level spells until I read more into it. It's first level class feature Muse will give it an additional spell based on the feat so that it starts with two 1st level spells and will ultimately get a third later.
Edited for error.
I'm thinking also that the Counter Performance, while currently seemingly impossible as it's written, is likely meant to be one reaction with it's Trigger requiring both verbal and somantic casting components available - thus you would have to be able to talk and have a hand free to use the reaction. It just doesn't come off like that since usually when spells have two casting components they take two actions. Honestly I think it'd make more sense to just bring it to a single verbal casting/reaction requirement and not worry about the somatic that way it's in line with the casting rules for everything else.
The Will DC of an observer would be that observer's Will Save Modifier +10. So... say someone was watching you who had a Will Save mod of +3, you'd roll a d20 and add your stuff and compare that to a Will DC of 13. If you got more than that, you succeed, if you got less, then you fail.
Someone will surely correctly me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it now - something that would have been an opposed roll before, like perception vs. stealth, is now a roll vs. DC. So someone trying to spy you if you're trying to be stealthy is your stealth roll vs. their Perception DC which would be 10 + the observer's Perception modifier.