Got my pawns today and I am furious. To be fair I guess I should have read the fine print. They do NOT come with bases. You have to read through what it does have to realize it does not have bases. The picture clearly shows bases. Now they want ten bucks for some bases. This royally pisses me off. They should state in BIG BOLD LETTERS ...BASES NOT INCLUDED...
i doubt this will make you feel happier/better, but the alien archive box does come with bases, much like the pathfinder bestiary boxes
That's weird. You'd think that they'd include the bases with the first pawn collection for Starfinder, for this exact reason. If it's the first product in the line it shouldn't be assumed that you're going to already own one of the big Pathfinder boxes that comes with the bases or know that you'll need to buy a separate package of bases.
I agree with the OP, why no bases? I am quite disappointed Paizo!
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Given that all previous pawn collections for the Adventure Paths weren't packaged with bases, I wasn't surprised.
I think their mistake was also putting in the same picture, the pawns from the set WITH BASES ATTACHED, and no front-and-center disclaimer about "bases not included." Some previous sets (like Skull and Shackles) were pictured the same way (with pawn bases in the pic, but not with the product) but more recent pawn collections were pictured more accurately (with no pawns on bases), so it's not unprecedented, but still hindsight is 20/20, I guess.
I knew they wouldn't have bases.
I'm also pretty sure they mention that in the product description.
FYI: Pathfinder bases work just as well.
They can be found separately I believe.
Check your local hobby stores. :-)
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read the full description I don't know what Paizo can do about that.
I think my point is that the first set released should have come with bases rather than telling you to use the bases from a product releasing AFTER it. I know I should have read it better, but I still think it was a poor decision on their part. If they had sold the other one first I wouldn't even be in this conversation.
The bases were delayed, is my understanding.
Question for those who bought the pawns:
Does the physical copy come with a PDF copy, or are those purchased separately?
Question for those who bought the pawns:
Does the physical copy come with a PDF copy, or are those purchased separately?
Getting both for the price of one is a subscriber perk (and for this specific product there are four concurrent releases, you can't just subscribe to the pawns and not the other three). Otherwise you need to buy each product separately.
I bought just the pawns, I did not get a pdf.
Nor was I expecting any for clarification.
I did get a PDF -- but I am subscribed to the Accessories line, among others. I have never bothered to download that PDF.
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Got my pawns today and I am furious. To be fair I guess I should have read the fine print. They do NOT come with bases. You have to read through what it does have to realize it does not have bases. The picture clearly shows bases. Now they want ten bucks for some bases. This royally pisses me off. They should state in BIG BOLD LETTERS ...BASES NOT INCLUDED...
I can appreciate the point, so please don't take this as argument, its intended just as information:
Pawn Collections are the sets of pawns without bases, Pawn Boxes are the sets which do include bases (and a box, obviously).
Ive long argued for selling the bases separately, since it is cheaper overall (the boxes increase the volume and hence shipping costs) and the customer doesn't end up with hundreds of redundant bases (they can buy how many they need).
The product description does specifically state that you need the second product (it's not quite as bad as just a list of inclusions, not mentioning bases). However, I do agree that it isn't very clear to new customers - that's a very long paragraph and the link to the second product is buried in the middle of a wall of text.
I'm confident it was a slip, not a deliberately deceptive tactic. For those of us who have been here a while the collection/box distinction is more obvious just because we've seen it before.
Personally, I wish there was a "with bases/without bases" option to order both products with one click (similar to the print/PDF/bundle option you sometimes see). That would make it a little clearer, imo.
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EDIT: the real kicker is it says this in the description "each pawn slots into a size-appropriate plastic base from the Starfinder Pawns Base Assortment" but the release date for that is "Preorder - Expected approximately October 2017"...
The intention was to release them both at the same time. There was a delay on the manufacturer side with the bases.
EDIT: whoops. As captain yesterday has already said, now I read the thread properly.
Thanks. I wanted the PDF version. But if you got the PDF with the physical copy, I would have dished out more for the physical and got them both.
But I just bought the PDF version and I'm happy with that.