Starting up a Pathfinder Beta Second Darkness PbP


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Liberty's Edge

So I'm looking for a few players for a Second Darkness PbP here on the Paizo boards. The game will use the Pathfinder Beta, along with the equipment list from the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting, and the spells, feats, and traits from the Second Darkness Companion. I've got three players currently, but I'd like to aim for about five or so.

Post if you're interested.


Shisumo wrote:

So I'm looking for a few players for a Second Darkness PbP here on the Paizo boards. The game will use the Pathfinder Beta, along with the equipment list from the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting, and the spells, feats, and traits from the Second Darkness Companion. I've got three players currently, but I'd like to aim for about five or so.

Post if you're interested.

I'm number 1!!...or number 4, rather...damn :)

Anyway, yes, I'd be interested. I can post a character for consideration shortly.

Dark Archive

Hope i dont get ninja'd.. Im interested too

Edit: What are the current characters? I'd hate to make a duplicate of an existing one...


Jason Beardsley wrote:
Edit: What are the current characters? I'd hate to make a duplicate of an existing one...

Good question. I'm willing to play a cleric, if needs be.

Liberty's Edge

A few points to keep in mind:

* Riddleport, where the story will begin, is not a place that is very friendly to Lawful characters. I'm not saying don't play them, but be aware that you might well struggle with the situations you will undoubtedly face in the City of Cyphers.

* If anyone wants to play a barbarian, we will use the alternate barbarian system found here.

Liberty's Edge

No characters yet. Jason, Torrillan, you're in. (Wow, that was fast!)


You could count me as an alt if ya need it

Liberty's Edge

seekerofshadowlight wrote:
You could count me as an alt if ya need it

One of my players was a bit soft on his commitment, so I'll definitely keep you in mind.

Dark Archive

I'm strongly considering a Dwarf (or Half-Orc) Barbarian

Liberty's Edge

One more thing: a copy of the Second Darkness Companion will be extremely useful, particularly with regard to charcter creation. The PDF is only US $6.99, so I'd suggest grabbing it if you don't have it already. If you can't, though, we can probably work around it as you're making characters.

Dark Archive

I have the companion, as i'm a PF subscriber.. my first AP subscription actually started with second darkenss, fyi.. ;)

I've read through the companion, and read the beginning part of #13, glimpsed through it to get an idea of what i'd be doing when i get my home group going (after we get our current campaign ended)


'ello -

I'd be the one with the "rather soft" commitment, but I'm planning to follow through. I hate being the one to bump someone else out, you know, but...

I'm wide open on character atm and will do a bit o' study and watching y'all before I make my pick. Let me know if any of you have a suggestion or a concept that would benefit from a particular "friend" in the party - no promises, but that sort of thing can help, so I might just take you up on it.

I guess that might not be clear, so I will try again -- if your concept is a character that comes into the story with his buddy the rogue and they have a common backstory, I might be willing to be that rogue. We'll have to see.

'til then, I lurk. Looking forward to another good game with Shisumo...

Dark Archive

Well, i may take you up on that. I'm thinking of making a Half-Orc Barbarian, and i think i'm going to take the campaign trait "Into enemy territory". If you're willing to be that 'friend', that'd be great :)


Put me on the waiting list too, if possible!

Remember: when it comes to PbP games, the more the merrier. ;-)

Liberty's Edge

hogarth wrote:

Put me on the waiting list too, if possible!

Remember: when it comes to PbP games, the more the merrier. ;-)

Since this is my first attempt, I'm being conservative - but I'll keep that, and you, in mind. ;)


Hello everyone.

I wouldn't mind playing a cyphermage. Or an aspiring cyphermage or a cyphermage reject.


Hello , rogue or cleric for me


Shisumo - Safe to assume we are using point buy? How many points?

Jason - I think I can accommodate you. I had been kicking around the idea of a monk and your request has me going along the path of a half-orc monk who's not a formal martial artist, but he's effective. Your chaotic barbarian and my lawful monk would obviously have different perspectives on life, but sometimes that draws friends together, right?

I'm thinking that they grew up together and my character just didn't measure up to the tribe's standards, so he was excluded from "honorable" activities and so was more likely to leave the tribe and "experiment" with civilization than his childhood friends - like your character.

Does that sound like a framework you can work within, too?

(This assumes that Shisumo doesn't discourage me having a Lawful character -- I'm not planning on him being Good, so I think he might be fine...)

Dark Archive

Any room left? Read through the posts. Count me as an interested alt if you need me.

Dark Archive

AinvarG - That sounds reasonable, perhaps my character's association with you brought about some more pressure than mine would like to deal with, and voluntarily left. Goes into the city now and again for supplies/food, but tries to keep to himself on the outside.

Edit: Or maybe, he gets jobs as a 'knee-breaker' from time to time?

Shisumo - Ability score generation, how would you like this? What's starting gold?

Liberty's Edge

AinvarG wrote:
Shisumo - Safe to assume we are using point buy? How many points?

20 seems to be working well. Let's go with that.

AinvarG wrote:
(This assumes that Shisumo doesn't discourage me having a Lawful character -- I'm not planning on him being Good, so I think he might be fine...)

All the discouragement I plan to offer is upthread. :) I think a little challenge can be a lot of fun from a roleplaying perspective, but I didn't want anyone to get into it without warning...

Black Tom wrote:

Hello everyone.

I wouldn't mind playing a cyphermage. Or an aspiring cyphermage or a cyphermage reject.

Sounds good to me. A cyphermage would work quite well, actually...

robin wrote:
Hello , rogue or cleric for me

We still need both, but I would imagine a cleric would be more helpful than a rogue, if we've already got a monk lined up. Still, it's your call.

Jason Beardsley wrote:

Edit: Or maybe, he gets jobs as a 'knee-breaker' from time to time?

Shisumo - Ability score generation, how would you like this? What's starting gold?

There are a lot of half-orc legbreakers in Riddleport - it's a very half-orc friendly town, actually, because muscle is appreciated and respected, regardless of what you look like.

As Ainvar mentioned, point-buy, using the Pathfinder rules, and 20 pts. Starting gold will be the average given in the PHB, at the start of the equipment section.

Also, as you guys are putting things together, one thing to keep in mind might be that the game does begin with a gambling tournament, so a skill point in Profession (gambler) might not go amiss for at least one of you...

Grand Lodge

I need to spend more time online. May I please be put on the waitlist? I've been trying to get into a PbP game.


Shisumo wrote:


robin wrote:
Hello , rogue or cleric for me
We still need both, but I would imagine a cleric would be more helpful than a rogue, if we've already got a monk lined up. Still, it's your call.

Torillan seemed to be ready to create a cleric .

I'll begin to create the rogue . I already have a cleric ready just in case

Dark Archive

Shisumo wrote:
AinvarG wrote:
Shisumo - Safe to assume we are using point buy? How many points?

20 seems to be working well. Let's go with that.

AinvarG wrote:
(This assumes that Shisumo doesn't discourage me having a Lawful character -- I'm not planning on him being Good, so I think he might be fine...)

All the discouragement I plan to offer is upthread. :) I think a little challenge can be a lot of fun from a roleplaying perspective, but I didn't want anyone to get into it without warning...

Black Tom wrote:

Hello everyone.

I wouldn't mind playing a cyphermage. Or an aspiring cyphermage or a cyphermage reject.

Sounds good to me. A cyphermage would work quite well, actually...

robin wrote:
Hello , rogue or cleric for me

We still need both, but I would imagine a cleric would be more helpful than a rogue, if we've already got a monk lined up. Still, it's your call.

Jason Beardsley wrote:

Edit: Or maybe, he gets jobs as a 'knee-breaker' from time to time?

Shisumo - Ability score generation, how would you like this? What's starting gold?

There are a lot of half-orc legbreakers in Riddleport - it's a very half-orc friendly town, actually, because muscle is appreciated and respected, regardless of what you look like.

As Ainvar mentioned, point-buy, using the Pathfinder rules, and 20 pts. Starting gold will be the average given in the PHB, at the start of the equipment section.

Also, as you guys are putting things together, one thing to keep in mind might be that the game does begin with a gambling tournament, so a skill point in Profession (gambler) might not go amiss for at least one of you...

Thanks shis ;) i'll have my character posted tonight


robin wrote:

Torillan seemed to be ready to create a cleric .

I'll begin to create the rogue . I already have a cleric ready just in case

Yeah, I'm OK with playing the cleric. However, I'm torn between a jovial, drunken dwarf priest of Abadar, or a quiet, brooding elf priest of Gozreh. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Argl , stypid forum didn't save my profile
I'll do it again tomorrow


Shisumo wrote:
AinvarG wrote:
(This assumes that Shisumo doesn't discourage me having a Lawful character -- I'm not planning on him being Good, so I think he might be fine...)
All the discouragement I plan to offer is upthread. :) I think a little challenge can be a lot of fun from a roleplaying perspective, but I didn't want anyone to get into it without warning...

Well, I was leaning toward a personal code of lawfulness rather than a governmental one, which seems more feasible in the given scenario.

Shisumo wrote:
Jason Beardsley wrote:

Edit: Or maybe, he gets jobs as a 'knee-breaker' from time to time?

Shisumo - Ability score generation, how would you like this? What's starting gold?

There are a lot of half-orc legbreakers in Riddleport - it's a very half-orc friendly town, actually, because muscle is appreciated and respected, regardless of what you look like.

As Ainvar mentioned, point-buy, using the Pathfinder rules, and 20 pts. Starting gold will be the average given in the PHB, at the start of the equipment section.

Also, as you guys are putting things together, one thing to keep in mind might be that the game does begin with a gambling tournament, so a skill point in Profession (gambler) might not go amiss for at least one of you...

Aye, my character has taken occasional jobs to enforce local "law" to make ends meet. Probably has taken a turn in the arena, too. He's hoping to score a "real" job at the Gold Goblin when they start expanding.


Torillan wrote:
robin wrote:

Torillan seemed to be ready to create a cleric .

I'll begin to create the rogue . I already have a cleric ready just in case
Yeah, I'm OK with playing the cleric. However, I'm torn between a jovial, drunken dwarf priest of Abadar, or a quiet, brooding elf priest of Gozreh. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

How about a jovial, drunken cleric of Cayden Cailean? He's one of the deities listed with a presence in Riddleport -- even has something close to a public temple!


Any modifiers to starting hp, good DM?


AinvarG wrote:
How about a jovial, drunken cleric of Cayden Cailean? He's one of the deities listed with a presence in Riddleport -- even has something close to a public temple!

Hmm...I did consider that initially...maybe I should just go with it.

Name TBD)

Liberty's Edge

AinvarG wrote:
Any modifiers to starting hp, good DM?

Absolutely!

Whatever your Constitution bonus entitles you to!

;)


Gentlemen , Good night . May I wish you luck and your endeavours at the gaminng tables . Shall we play ?

Dark Archive

Well, i'm at work, my barbarian is saved in a document at home, and i won't be able to get to it for a few hours. If you want to get started, i wont mind, i'll post tonight.

Edit: I hope i get to use my Earth Breaker at least once :)


No hurry :)


We're still waiting for a few more PCs to crystallize, but I'm going to go ahead and get a discussion thread started. By this time tomorrow, I'd like to have some details on how the gambling will work laid out, in case people have questions, and I'd like to start by the end of the weekend, if all goes well!

EDIT: Thread is here.


Jason Beardsley wrote:
Edit: I hope i get to use my Earth Breaker at least once :)

Heh. I wouldn't worry about that too much. ;)


While far from ideal, I'm currently running a SD PBP, and you are more than welcome to use these quick rules I drummed up as yours, or as part of your gambling rules.You can find them here. I know how difficult it is to try and run something like this online; one of the games I intended to play with faltered at the exact start of the games, leaving my character stranded.


DM dahn wrote:
While far from ideal, I'm currently running a SD PBP, and you are more than welcome to use these quick rules I drummed up as yours, or as part of your gambling rules.You can find them here.
Quote:

I've actually been following your game with interest, as something to compare my own thoughts against. I'll likely try for a bit more detail on a couple of the games - specifically golem and skiffs - but I'm definitely taking inspiration from you.

DM dahn wrote:
I know how difficult it is to try and run something like this online; one of the games I intended to play with faltered at the exact start of the games, leaving my character stranded.

Suck. :( Well, hopefully, our games will manage to make it through!


OK, so this is where I come clean and admit that I know very little of Golarion. Do I need to get some supplement or could you help me out?

Also, I would like to get a familiar, but the Beta is sadly incomplete. Does it cost anything to summon a familiar, and what happens if it's killed? I realize that an arcane bond is probably superior mechanics-wise, but I think Hezekiah would want a familiar. That, and I'd like to play a diviner. Perhaps not the best choice either, but that's how I envision him, kind of the cat that curiosity killed.


Well, here is my interpretation

Technically : windmills , glassworks , printing.
Socially : 17th century world in general. There are some kingdoms , some unexplored lands . Nobility is not what it was .
Culturally : Modern american . Everyone has access to Education. Women are equal to men. There are galleries of paintings and theaters in the most advanced towns

Now we live in a corner of Golarion called Varisia which has been in part colonized by the empire of Chelax at first before its fell into diabolism. Varisia is home to two nations Magnimar (a merchantocracy) and Korvosa ( a kingdom) and one city state Riddleport ( yes us!)
Riddleport is not a good town , the police is just another gang and the leader is just the biggest pirate around (Yes it's at heart a pirate town).

There are also two human cultures indegenous to the area : the Varisian ( think tinker-gypsies ) and the Shoanti (noble barbarians)
In between , there is plenty of wilderness , Go one day beyond the walls of any city and you can find Goblins , Ogre or worse .

If you can, buy the pathfinder companion : Second Darkness for 10$ at paizo.


Black Tom wrote:
OK, so this is where I come clean and admit that I know very little of Golarion. Do I need to get some supplement or could you help me out?

robin covered a lot of it, but if you are in the market for a supplement, the Pathfinder Gazetteer is reasonably cheap and extremely useful. The Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting is much more detailed, but also significantly more expensive. (I have 'em both, and I love them, FYI.)

Golarion draws its inspirations from pulp fantasy, with large doses of Howard and Lovecraft alongside the more traditional Tolkien and Vance. The cultures are, as a rule, somewhat more modern than you might expect from a sword and sorcery fantasy, with a distinctly modern set of sensibilities (and some hints even of modern technology, such as gunpowder in a couple places - mostly ones where magic doesn't work very well), but it's still very much aligned with the fantastic. It's just the fantasy of, say, the Renaissance, rather than the late medieval period.

Black Tom wrote:
Also, I would like to get a familiar, but the Beta is sadly incomplete. Does it cost anything to summon a familiar, and what happens if it's killed? I realize that an arcane bond is probably superior mechanics-wise, but I think Hezekiah would want a familiar. That, and I'd like to play a diviner. Perhaps not the best choice either, but that's how I envision him, kind of the cat that curiosity killed.

As far as I can tell, both the cost of the familiar and the consequences of losing it have been removed. So you may, in fact, begin play with one without having to worry about the 100 gp cost. That said, there are hints that Buhlman's going to bring the familiar/animal companion/paladin mount rules into some kind of uniformity, so we should keep our eyes open for such.

I have no objections to a diviner. Makes perfect sense for a cyphermage.


Character is almost done. Just need to copy and paste info.

(Ghorum is Torillan's character, BTW.)


Ghorum Kraak wrote:

Character is almost done. Just need to copy and paste info.

(Ghorum is Torillan's character, BTW.)

I'm like 99.9% sure you know this already and it's just an artifact of the template you're using, but just for the record, that is a 3.5 set-up, and we're using Pathfinder.

It's a great name, by the by. ;)


DM Shisumo wrote:

I'm like 99.9% sure you know this already and it's just an artifact of the template you're using, but just for the record, that is a 3.5 set-up, and we're using Pathfinder.

It's a great name, by the by. ;)

I did realize it. After the fact, but I did realize... ;-)

And thanks about the name. I kinda took the way they say "godd*m" in Firefly and took a liberty or two with the spelling. As for the last name, I'll let your imagination run wild. :-0


So it looks like we're going to need another player for our Second Darkness game. We're losing a barbarian, so a warrior-type would be most suitable. Anyone interested?


Count me in ! (I'm Sevegny on the Dungeonaday game, btw.)


JZ wrote:
Count me in ! (I'm Sevegny on the Dungeonaday game, btw.)

You're in! Head on over to the discussion thread and let's talk characters...


Dang, missed my chance again. I'll just wait another 6 months, and then I'll pounce! =)


hogarth wrote:
Dang, missed my chance again. I'll just wait another 6 months, and then I'll pounce! =)

Hmm... I did promise to keep you in mind, didn't I? Tell you what - you want in, you're in.

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