Inlaa |
I know this isn't PFS-illegal because they only want you to have one animal companion, but does this work outside of PFS?
Cleric > Choose Scalykind (Saurian) and Animal domains. You get to level 4 and have two animal companions.
You have two feats by level 4: Iron Will and Familiar Bond. You choose the Compsognathus familiar, gaining a pretty pet dinosaur that can turn into a Medium creature and fight.
Is this a legitimate way (especially with Boon Companion at level 5, or at level 4 retraining your level 3 feat if you're human) of doing things? Two animal companions and a fighting familiar? (Potentially dipping 1 level into Spirit Binder Wizard to trap the soul of a loved one in your familiar and give it full BAB and a bonus feat?)
EDIT: Or dip into Spirit Binder without actually spending those feats. D'oh. I forgot you could do that.
Point stands: is this legit?
Nevan Oaks |
The rules say no. If the AC is on the list of both class features then they stack.
Scalykind gives class level minus 2, animal is class level minus 3. So at 4th level scalykind gives A druid level of 2, animal domain gives a druid level of 1. Since snakes are on both list (scalykind and animal) the druid levels have to add so your snake is at druid level 3.
Edit: appears I may have miss remembered the faq. So may be legal. As always talk with your DM.
Selvaxri |
You'll need Improved Familiar Bond in order to make your familiar eligible for Archetypes, as it needs the full features to trade in.
Who said what now? Where is it written that you need that ability to apply Archetypes to familiars?
or are you just implying because of the deficits his class gives him, when calculating his familiar's abilities, IFB would be a work-around?
I have a Eldritch Guardian with a Mauler familiar, and i never heard that i'd need IFB to get the archetype to stick.
Backlash3906 |
Backlash3906 wrote:You'll need Improved Familiar Bond in order to make your familiar eligible for Archetypes, as it needs the full features to trade in.Who said what now? Where is it written that you need that ability to apply Archetypes to familiars?
or are you just implying because of the deficits his class gives him, when calculating his familiar's abilities, IFB would be a work-around?
I have a Eldritch Guardian with a Mauler familiar, and i never heard that i'd need IFB to get the archetype to stick.
Eldritch Guardian is a special case, because even as a non-spellcaster, it gains a Familiar with all the relevant abilities, treating their Fighter levels as Wizard levels.
The Mauler archetype for familiars trades out:
Speak with master
Speak with animals of its kind
Deliver touch spells
and Spell Resistance
The familiar granted by Familiar Bond does not gain the "deliver touch spells, scry on familiar, share spells, speak with animals of its kind, or spell resistance special abilities." These are necessary to trade in exchange for the benefits granted by the archetype. This problem in lacking abilities is the reason Famliar archetypes generally can't be applied to Improved Familiars (except with the Magical Child archetype for Vigilantes).
There may be some standard familiars, or Improved Familiars, to make this concept work, but the Mauler archetype doesn't come online without IFB.