An all wizard party could be interesting. Be a bit challenging at early levels, but could be pretty insane later on.To be more accurate... it'd be a bit Fatal at early levels.... unless the DM is pulling a lot of punches, Wizards simply don't frontline or heal very well, especially at the early levels.
If a couple of them had acadamae graduate, they'd be able to quickly summon meat shields to help keep them from harm.
If a couple of them had acadamae graduate, they'd be able to quickly summon meat shields to help keep them from harm.An all wizard party could be interesting. Be a bit challenging at early levels, but could be pretty insane later on.To be more accurate... it'd be a bit Fatal at early levels.... unless the DM is pulling a lot of punches, Wizards simply don't frontline or heal very well, especially at the early levels.
I've been in...basically...one of these parties..if you all win inits and end the fight on round one you dont need to heal or frontline.
Maybe Four Eldritch Knights. You can kind've cheat with stats and minor bonuses for a few levels, and Spells get better as fighting gets worse. Some schools and traits help with bonuses.
Maybe a bunch of Mediums. Seems fun. If you primarily go STR based and CHA secondary switching spirits isn't really a problem. You can all get racial proficiencies.
So you can take turns being the healer! :p
I've been in...basically...one of these parties..if you all win inits and end the fight on round one you dont need to heal or frontline.If a couple of them had acadamae graduate, they'd be able to quickly summon meat shields to help keep them from harm.An all wizard party could be interesting. Be a bit challenging at early levels, but could be pretty insane later on.To be more accurate... it'd be a bit Fatal at early levels.... unless the DM is pulling a lot of punches, Wizards simply don't frontline or heal very well, especially at the early levels.
I count two big IFs in that paragraph... in other words, if you are exceptionally lucky, it works.
Or If you have a diviner who takes improved initiative and a decent dex, then throws out a high or no save dc hindrance spell. Win init color spray, win init sleep works for a decent time low level.
I had an ifrit diviner (arcanist archetype) with improved initiative, wildfire heart, greensting scorpion, a cracked Dusty Rose Prism (Ioun Stone) and a good dex score (18 iirc). He often won initiative.
If the full group were ifrit wizards, arcanists, witches or sorcerers they could easily get 12+ base initiative with the racial+feat+familiar+dex. If they then all take firesight they can make good use of smoke and fire for a major tactical advantage.
its a fairly normal stat array.....
Not in my experience, standard in PF is generally either 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, and 8, or 20 point-buy.
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its a fairly normal stat array.....Stats are 18, 16, 14, 14, 12, 10.Whot? Is that 39 points worth of abilities?
I find it somewhat intriguing that you feel the need for such a high power level for your game. Where does this need come from?
No, in Pathfinder, 10 is low fantasy, 15 medium, 20 high and 25 epic. Your figures match 3.5, but point-buy there had different rules, iirc starting lower.
Commoners get 10s and 11s or a max of 13 and a min of 8. An array starting with 15 was considered an elite array back in 3.5.
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I've frequently given out arrays of 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8 before with the rule that you can't start with a stat above 18. It's a lot of points in point buy but basically comes down to "put your stats in order of importance". I personally have no problem with high powered PCs, since I'm there to enable them to experience a story not to try to kill them.
"I dumped 3 stats to get a 20" annoys me a lot more than "I have an extra +1 to hit".
I've frequently given out arrays of 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8 before with the rule that you can't start with a stat above 18. It's a lot of points in point buy but basically comes down to "put your stats in order of importance". I personally have no problem with high powered PCs, since I'm there to enable them to experience a story not to try to kill them.
"I dumped 3 stats to get a 20" annoys me a lot more than "I have an extra +1 to hit".
We used to do 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8 in 3.5 all the time, but after half a dozen PF AP's, we've realized why the recommendation is in the 20-point range (we started with the recommendation because we wanted to try out playing in straight in good faith.) And the truth is that we've found that we actually enjoy the more limited attribute set because it increases reliance on your other party members - at least in our opinion.
I've joked with some friends before about making a party consisting entirely of golem bards of various types.
Stone golems: Hard Rock band
Iron golems: Heavy Metal band
And so forth.
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I am toying with the idea of running a game with 5 players from level 1 to 20, Hoeven all 5 players will be of the same class.The question is, which classes and archtypes work the best.
I can easily see a group of 5 clerics working as a group.
Same with 5 oracles, druids, bards, and vigilantes.
I am leaning toward alchemists, but am open to ideas for other classes.
Stats are 18, 16, 14, 14, 12, 10.
Alignments do not exist so neither do their requirements.
Any non oddball race 16 points or under works.
3rd party is fine within reason, ex. Most archtypes are fine unless they are built around using assault rifles or something.Any ideas on class and archtype combinations?
Oracles have the most variety. You can have one be the face and knowledge person, one be a blaster,one be a trapfinder, one be melee, and they can all heal and buff. I would say a life oracle, and elf lore (ancient lorekeeper) oracle, a heavens oracle, a metal oracle, and a lunar (seeker) oracle.