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Btw, I'm curious: what are all the PFS-legal means of getting a flying mount?The pteranodon, dire bat, quetzalcoatlus, giant vulture, giant mantis, roc,
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. The problem with almost all of the flying creatures is that they have very low strength scores before their advancements, so even a small character would likely struggle. Honestly, a summoner probably has the best chance of getting a flying mount.
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Besides lower strength scores a lot of flying creatures have a low CON score - some are CON 9, which is a huge ding of hit points.
I believe there is a combat trained Dire Bat in Animal Archives anyone can buy that is Large. Make sure you have Ride so you can fight with your hands free and Handle Animal to do its tricks.
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Pretty sure all of those require you to be a druid, but if you really want to make a flying cavalier, I think there's one way of doing that: be a half-orc, take the Beast Rider feat (not the archetype, that doesn't allow flying mounts), take a pteranodon at level 7.
You could also be a wildblooded sorcerer with the Sylvan bloodline, since it allows the druid list.
And I suddenly feel the need to build a half orc, with the feats Nature Soul, Animal Ally, and Beast Rider, for a pteranodon of 1 effective druid level lower then the half orc.
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If you have any random animal companion that's larger than yourself, is there anything keeping you from riding it?If you ride a creature ill suited to be a mount, you take a -5 penalty to your Ride skill.
So, you could technically ride anything, I suppose.
How do I determine whether or not a given creature is suited to be a mount?
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The only method I'm aware of is to look at what creatures are either available to purchase as mounts or which are referenced elsewhere, like in the Ride skill, or the section on mounted combat.
There isn't a comprehensive list. I think this is one of those things that might have to be left up to interpretation. A riding horse? Sure. A riding ostrich? Okay... A riding snake? Probably not.
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You can ride anything that is "not suited to be a mount" my taking a -5 to ride checks.
From the CRB (see first paragraph)
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Does that mean a small character could ride a small creature by taking -5 as long as the creature can support its weight?
You know, I've always looked for this rule (that you need to ride something one size larger than you or larger) but I have failed to find it before in the CRB. I dunno where that came from (maybe 3.5 holdover?)
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Does that mean a small character could ride a small creature by taking -5 as long as the creature can support its weight?You know, I've always looked for this rule (that you need to ride something one size larger than you or larger) but I have failed to find it before in the CRB. I dunno where that came from (maybe 3.5 holdover?)
From the FAQ
As a paladin or cavalier, what mount can I have?
As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you’re a Medium PC, your mount must be Large. If you’re a Small PC, your mount must be at least Medium. You may only select a mount from the listed mounts on page 63 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook unless another source grants access to additional creature choices. As a cavalier, you may select a mount from those listed on page 33 of the Advanced Player's Guide. No additional mounts are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play except when granted from another legal source.
BNW note: this restriction doesn't appear in pathfinder core. Ponies (which are medium) are explicitly listed as as suitable mount for dwarves.
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Does that mean a small character could ride a small creature by taking -5 as long as the creature can support its weight?You know, I've always looked for this rule (that you need to ride something one size larger than you or larger) but I have failed to find it before in the CRB. I dunno where that came from (maybe 3.5 holdover?)
I could not find it either. I know that some classes that get animal companions or mounts have some descriptions what is adequate though. But that only counts for what they can gain as a mount, not what you can ride in general. The point that wonders me there, if some people don´t like halflings that much because of their similarity to another fantasy settings and that h..... word, along with sling staffs, why then keep mounts so restricted to horses and ponies or simliar animals? A bit more variety there would be nice and colorful^^
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Right, so Paladins and Cavaliers are limited in their class-granted mounts. But a medium paladin could ride their large horse before AND after someone cast reduce animal on it.
I am talking 100% general rules. Can I (human) go and purchase a pony (medium) and ride it. Like your dwarf example. Seems like yes.
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From the FAQAs a paladin or cavalier, what mount can I have?
As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you’re a Medium PC, your mount must be Large. If you’re a Small PC, your mount must be at least Medium. You may only select a mount from the listed mounts on page 63 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook unless another source grants access to additional creature choices. As a cavalier, you may select a mount from those listed on page 33 of the Advanced Player's Guide. No additional mounts are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play except when granted from another legal source.
BNW note: this restriction doesn't appear in pathfinder core. Ponies (which are medium) are explicitly listed as as suitable mount for dwarves.
That´s what i meant! Thanks!
So that only counts for mounts gained through class features?Animal companions then are another thing? Or bought animals?
If Jiggy buys an exotic saddle for his snake, is that preventing the -5 then? Or still -5 instead of -10?
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So that only counts for mounts gained through class features?
Animal companions then are another thing? Or bought animals?If Jiggy buys an exotic saddle for his snake, is that preventing the -5 then? Or still -5 instead of -10?
I think now we are getting into a derail and probably needs to be moved to the rules forum.