Gisher |
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To my knowledge this is the most authoritative response to this question so far.
MichaelCullen wrote:They definitely have the recent casting limit. As to the other, accidental omission; should almost certainly be as arcane.I originally posted this in the rules forum but did not get much traction. After reading the section on psychic magic in Occult Adventures, I noticed some important information was missing.
Other classes have restrictions on regaining their spells per day. Were these restrictions purposely omitted (designed to not apply to psychic casters) or where they accidentally overlooked (because they apply to other types of magic they are assumed to apply, if so do they act like arcane or divine casters)?First
How do psychics regain their spells?Arcane casters need 8 hours of rest and then some preparation time:
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Adam B. 135 |
To my knowledge this is the most authoritative response to this question so far.
Mark Seifter wrote:MichaelCullen wrote:They definitely have the recent casting limit. As to the other, accidental omission; should almost certainly be as arcane.I originally posted this in the rules forum but did not get much traction. After reading the section on psychic magic in Occult Adventures, I noticed some important information was missing.
Other classes have restrictions on regaining their spells per day. Were these restrictions purposely omitted (designed to not apply to psychic casters) or where they accidentally overlooked (because they apply to other types of magic they are assumed to apply, if so do they act like arcane or divine casters)?First
How do psychics regain their spells?Arcane casters need 8 hours of rest and then some preparation time:
** spoiler omitted **...
Thank you Gisher, and thank you Mark Seifter!
MisterSlanky |
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Resurrecting this from the dead in an effort to get it FAQed.
Figuring out how psyhic casters regain spells since it was omitted from the class rules should not have taken as long as it did for me to figure out. Being over a year old meant it's way down in the search results and this is a pretty significant omission.
Diego Rossi |
Not really. They work the same as any other spontaneous caster. Super straightforward
Arcane and divine spontaneous spellcasters work differently.
Arcane need 8 hours of sleep and a fresh mind to recover their spell slots, divine need to do it at an appropriate item of the day and miss the refreshing if they skip doing it at the right time, but don't need the sleep.Drahliana Moonrunner |
swoosh wrote:Not really. They work the same as any other spontaneous caster. Super straightforwardCool. Can you point me to the page in the rule book that states that?
There is an established protocol for spontaneous casters to regain spells. The class mechanics does not indicate that psychics have any variance from established precedent.
In other words, there is nothing in the class description to indicate that psychics are different from any other spontaneous caster.
Garbage-Tier Waifu |
swoosh wrote:Not really. They work the same as any other spontaneous caster. Super straightforwardCool. Can you point me to the page in the rule book that states that?
Are you worried a DM will tell you that your major class feature will not refresh? They are spontaneous casters. They refresh just like all other spontaneous casters (which defaults to after 8 hours of rest and 15 minutes of prep each day). Then you have the quote from Mark Seifter confirming the omission but that it works like arcane spontaneous spellcasters.
Here are the rules for sorcerers and bards, who were the only spontaneous casters at the time of writing for these rules.
Each day, sorcerers and bards must focus their minds on the task of casting their spells. A sorcerer or bard needs 8 hours of rest (just like a wizard), after which she spends 15 minutes concentrating. (A bard must sing, recite, or play an instrument of some kind while concentrating.) During this period, the sorcerer or bard readies her mind to cast her daily allotment of spells. Without such a period to refresh herself, the character does not regain the spell slots she used up the day before.
PossibleCabbage |
While I don't want to pull out OA and page through it, my sense is that since Psychic Casting is generally less restricted than any other form of casting (unless you have to make a concentration check, which you presumably don't when resting), refreshing their class features should be at least as easy as refreshing anybody else's.
But they probably expected everybody would understand that their spells would recover every time they rested to replenish their phrenic pool, mental focus, etc.
Diego Rossi |
Personally I support the idea that they refresh like spontaneous arcane spellcasters, so that they need to rest for 8 hours.
On the other hand, the description of psychic magic say: "Yet there is a third, more esoteric kind of magic, connected to every creature's composite being, from the conscious mind to the deepest desire, from the life force to the spirit, from the very soul to the cosmic self."
With that description and the notion that you can have strong emotions even inf you aren't rested, I could agree on the idea that you can recover them at a fixed time of the day that has some significance for you.
An official ruling would be nice.