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if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?
3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
For decades I used the 4d6, drop the lowest and reroll 1's and 2's. But like Scythia, I like my players to have higher stats, so now I use 1d10 add 8.
if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
Damn, son. My maths calculates that to be worth a mean of about 50.88 pb. I thought 5d6-2lowest was generous.
Damn, son. My maths calculates that to be worth a mean of about 50.88 pb. I thought 5d6-2lowest was generous.if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
I'm nobody's son. :P
If I were to use point buy I would probably give 45 or so points, so that's not far off.
I like the "heroes are exceptional" approach.
Damn, son. My maths calculates that to be worth a mean of about 50.88 pb. I thought 5d6-2lowest was generous.if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
I'm nobody's son. :P
If I were to use point buy I would probably give 45 or so points, so that's not far off.
I like the "heroes are exceptional" approach.
Son trancends gender, dude. :P
Sounds fun. I should try that method in a lower level gestalt game
Paragon template? ;)
For Iron Gods my daughter has an Android Fighter with a 64 point equivalent, we call her "64 bit Anne" :-D
Actually with Iron Gods our two highest point equivalent are our Rogue and Fighter at 37 and 64 while the spell casters are 24 (dwarven oracle) and 20 (android Diviner) so far it's balanced out:-D
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Damn, son. My maths calculates that to be worth a mean of about 50.88 pb. I thought 5d6-2lowest was generous.if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
I'm nobody's son. :P
If I were to use point buy I would probably give 45 or so points, so that's not far off.
I like the "heroes are exceptional" approach.
Son trancends gender, dude. :P
Sounds fun. I should try that method in a lower level gestalt game
And to be fair, it's very difficult to figure out anyone's gender based on an avatar and screen name anyway.
A while ago, my character dropped below 0 and the GM rolled whether the opponent finishes him off or not. The character was lucky and got spared - but I was quite upset afterwards, given that we were just level 3 (making a 5000 gold raise tough) but played since 1.5 years or so. First, it seemed to be for OOC reasons, second, it's bad style to kill a PC because of minor mistakes and third, he was too cowardly to make the decision himself, instead would have blamed his die.
Well, things between us became better again, but this situation will stay in my head for a while, and I try to make it better as a GM.
GMs that super-load encounters (beyond the scenario) to the point the players all look at it and go 'That's it, we're dead', and start packing up their things, and then the GM pulls back parts of the encounter because it's 'too tough'.
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Damn, son. My maths calculates that to be worth a mean of about 50.88 pb. I thought 5d6-2lowest was generous.if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
I'm nobody's son. :P
If I were to use point buy I would probably give 45 or so points, so that's not far off.
I like the "heroes are exceptional" approach.
Son trancends gender, dude. :P
Sounds fun. I should try that method in a lower level gestalt game
Sadly, you didn't really set me up for "I'm no man", so I had to make do. :P
I've wanted to try running a gestalt game for awhile, but my current players couldn't handle it. They're new enough that tracking one class worth of abilities is still iffy. Definitely sounds fun though.
Mediocre.
5d6, drop lowest, reroll 1s and 2s.
Pft. 5d6, drop lowest die (keep 4), reroll 1s and 2s, exploding dice (roll a 6 on a die? roll another one), and Progressive Dice Match Guarantee*. Max stat limit depends on the game I wanna run (usually cap it t 25 to 30).
* = A joke my fiance brought up about my general rule of "Alright, who rolled the highest roll? Everyone shift your second lowest roll to be that roll".
Why yes, I like high statted characters. I also like to run Zerg Rush styled mooks, so the PCs need all the help they can get. Also usually short a full party by one or two people, so.... Also, I really like to use things that do ability damage. Poison and shadows and what not...
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I do 1:1 point buy, with a point value between 15 and 25 depending on desired power level.
I've also been considering just letting people pick their stats.
I get bugged by the words "You can't burn down the inn, its plot important"
Well I would not say plot important. In my games building or at least the ones made out of materials that burn. Are not immune to fire damage. I had a group get ambushed at a inn and a player was tossing 10D6 fireballs. Then was unhappy when the owner of the inn wanted to press charges against the group. In a dungeon, outside or a area owned by no one. Devaste the surrondings to your hearts content. In a city either you tone down the pyrotechnics or one gets fined and/or arrested.
But we don't mind getting arrested. We were chaotic, pyromaniacs, in need of a distraction, had explosives, and were ready to murder our way out of the scene after we stood and appreciated the fire. The inn had been described as wooden. And there was alcohol, which we knew from an earlier incident was very flammable in this campaign. The only thing the GM could come up with was "I need the inn for the plot later". In a similar vein, he started a combat encounter with 4 bandits, one of whom he described as tougher and meaner looking and just generally looked stronger. So what happens? We hit the tougher one first, crit and take her out in one hit. Then he realizes he inserted someone important (As in, not supposed to die) into a combat encounter without giving her protections.
GMs that super-load encounters (beyond the scenario) to the point the players all look at it and go 'That's it, we're dead', and start packing up their things, and then the GM pulls back parts of the encounter because it's 'too tough'.
Our GM did that once because he got really mad, and then got even madder when I proceeded to do the impossible and win the fight. Well, to be more accurate, I brought one down in one hit and then the rangers got a bunch of crits.
I've also been considering just letting people pick their stats.
I'd be curious how this turns out...
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"All right, let's see your character sheet, Greg... oh. Look at that. Five 18s and 20 Strength. But that's okay because Amy signed off on that! Now, let's see Amy's cleric... whaddyaknow. 20 Wisdom and 18s across the board, but it's kosher because Greg saw you roll your stats!"
The upside is that the PCs have less of that annoying 15-minute day syndrome. Also, the "bosses" can have their ability scores bumped to a similar array (all 18s +/- racial modifiers), so it works out in the end. Imagine Karzoug with all 20s before inherent bonuses et al applied. ;)
Tammy could take them.
My players aren't the type to grab all 18s, but even if they were I wouldn't be too worried since it helps martials comparatively more than casters. Casters will max out their casting stat even with a 0 point buy, but martials would finally be able afford skills and Will saves without sacrificing damage, AC, or HP.
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I played with a GM once in 1e that made us roll 3d6 straight down. It stunk. I ended up with a human fighter and my highest stat was a 15 Con. I had a 4 Dex and a 7 Int. He was slow in the head, ridiculously clumsy and his only redeeming quality was that he could take a punch.
No, it didn't turn into a fun bit of roleplaying. It ended precisely how you think it would: I died in 2 rounds from orcs, sat on the couch for an hour then biked home.
I have my players roll 20d1s, then I take that number and give them out to be used for point buy.
:-D
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Man! I hope I roll a bunch of 1's
if scores like 5 and 3 are "too low" to play, shouldn't we have a different paradigm for generating ability scores, something like 2d6+6?3d5, drop lowest,+8 in my games
Why yes, I do like characters that have high stats, why do you ask? :P
I used this in chargen for my No-catsers/semi-Steampunk style game ad it's worked out pretty good so far. Everyone got stats good enough to lay what they wanted, with a little extra for secondary stats.
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Man! I hope I roll a bunch of 1's
As it turns out, I did!
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Man! I hope I roll a bunch of 1'sAs it turns out, I did!
I'm not sure how, but wouldn't you know I rolled a few 2's, how about that.
I'm not sure how, but wouldn't you know I rolled a few 2's, how about that.Man! I hope I roll a bunch of 1'sAs it turns out, I did!
I cheat sometimes.
Often.
I lie too.
Actually, I don't.
One of those was a lie.
Unless I'm not telling the truth when I say I'm lying.
Dangit man, just pretending to be you is more chaos than I can handle! And this is from a guy who yells CHAOS! AT random intervals to make sure I maintain my alignment. Because I can't have the man keep me down with his rules, and regulations. I'm so rebellious I started a sentence with a preposition in this paragraph, and used an exclamation mark mid sentence. I am teh most rebel.
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I guess I don't do well with chaos. I had a game session, start of a new game, and mid way through making my character the GM and another player decide: we're playing a different edition besides Pathfinder.
I like structure, order. When I show up to a game session I like knowing what we're doing. When we're in the game itself I enjoy having a purpose and reasons for our actions.
I tangent off topic a lot, don't get me wrong. But I always try to steer myself right back to the game at hand and I appreciate when folks tell me to rein it in. The way I figure it: most gamers I know who get together live and in person over the age of, say, 15 probably have a lot going on that they could be doing but they're here at the table. People's time is valuable so if they're choosing to spend some of it gaming with me I shouldn't waste it.
I'm not sure how, but wouldn't you know I rolled a few 2's, how about that.Man! I hope I roll a bunch of 1'sAs it turns out, I did!I cheat sometimes.
Often.
I lie too.
Actually, I don't.
One of those was a lie.
Unless I'm not telling the truth when I say I'm lying.
I tried cheating, once.
Turns out the only person that cares if I look on the bottom of the cereal box to see what the answers are is me.
I'm all about chaos.
I'm all about chaos.
I never would have guessed. :)
I still think it's awesome that I fooled TL with that alias.
Back on topic.
I hate cheaters. If I'm GM it's an instant ban. If I'm a player it's an ultimatum to ban him or I walk.
Seriously hate those people.
I'm all about chaos.I never would have guessed. :)
You guessed wrong. :-)
I should probably point out I mean when there is no doubt and the guy has already been told to stop once.
Once is all you get.
Yeah, I don't actually cheat, maybe cause I was the family scapegoat, constantly accused of everything. But I am annoyingly ethical when it comes to everything about RPGs, especially character creation, there are no Half-Dragon Halfling Lizardfolk in any of my games. :-)
*waits for 1/2dragon gestalt jiggy alias to get offended*
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But if I do that, then when will I check Facebook on my phone, or watch TV? /snark
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*waits for 1/2dragon gestalt jiggy alias to get offended*
SPENDING ENERGY ON BEING OFFENDED IS A SUBOPTIMAL WASTE OF RESOURCES
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*waits for 1/2dragon gestalt jiggy alias to get offended*SPENDING ENERGY ON BEING OFFENDED IS A SUBOPTIMAL WASTE OF RESOURCES
Embrace the dark side Jiggy.
I do 1:1 point buy, with a point value between 15 and 25 depending on desired power level.
I essentially do that. Each player gets 85 points to distribute amongst their attributes as they see fit (before racial bonuses are applied). The only restrictions being that they can only have one attribute max out at 20 (if they decide to go that way). It eventually totals out to each character having attributes starting out that total 87, if you add them together.
RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Embrace the dark side Jiggy.
Pffft, my wife already tells me I have a "dark streak" to me.
I greeted it like an old friend, and it frolicked playfully as I scratched behind its ears and said "Who's a good doggy? Who's a good doggy?". It recognized its master.
The poor sorceress was dumbfounded. Her summon wouldn't obey her commands. In fact, in the presence of its master, it didn't even acknowledge her existence.
Then I was all like "Okay, enough wasting time, let's go save the folks," and my friends and I started walking up the hill toward the sorceress' abode, with the shadowbeast at my side and the sorceress following behind, sputtering something about how I can't do that.
In the sorceress' home, I see a row of statuettes shimmering with silver light, and the sorceress (regaining her confidence) explains that she has hostage souls in them, and all she has to do is smash the statuettes and the people die.
I shake my head and give a command to the shadowbeast (that SHE conjured, remember), who then turns into a literal shadow, passes over the statuettes, and safely absorbs the souls so I can return them at my leisure. The sorceress now has nothing. I then recline on the sorceress' couch and flip through the channels on her TV, while petting the shadowbeast that's sitting at my feet.
End of dream.