Arcanist spells


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Simple question

Does an arcanist need to memorize spells everyday or does his current selection "roll over" into the next day?


He still has any unused prepared spell slots when he wakes up. It doesn't matter if he wakes up 10 minutes after he falls asleep, or 1 hour, or 3 hours, or 12 hours - there is no point at which he just loses his remaining prepared spell slots.

So, in the morning, he just recovers his empty slots or even switches prepared spells for new ones.

At least, the wizard can do this:

Core Rulebook, Magic, Preparing Arcane Spells wrote:
Until he prepares spells from his spellbook, the only spells a wizard has available to cast are the ones that he already had prepared from the previous day and has not yet used. During the study period, he chooses which spells to prepare. If a wizard already has spells prepared (from the previous day) that he has not cast, she can abandon some or all of them to make room for new spells.

I see nothing to make me think that the rule should apply differently to an Arcanist. The fact that he never "forgets" spells means that in the morning, after an appropriate rest, all spell-slots are recovered and he simply reads his spellbook to replace any known/prepared spells with different spells he wants to prepare today.

Note that the 1-hour preparation time is required to refresh those slots that were used yesterday.


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Arcanist never uses up spells though.


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Edited from my previous posting - Arcanists still must prepare spells every day from a spellbook. This is a bit unusual, yet it seems that the daily time of preparation period is the reset button for an arcanist, so to speak.

Another downside is that an arcanist's spells are treated as spontaneous in nature - so pearls of power and similar items meant for prepared casters do not work for them. Read magic can always be prepared from memory (unclear as to where spell mastery lands with arcanists).

A strength is that metamagic feats can be prepared in spells in advance in order to avoid the time tax when adding the feat to a spell later on.


It seems they need the Daily preperation both to change spells and to renew there dayli number of spells. So without the hour of preperation they only have the leftover spells from the Day before.


KestrelZ wrote:
...(unclear as to where spell mastery lands with arcanists).

Rules text

Spell Mastery wrote:
Prerequisite: 1st-level wizard

There is even an FAQ on it. Wizards only.


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Cap. Darling wrote:
It seems they need the Daily preperation both to change spells and to renew there dayli number of spells. So without the hour of preperation they only have the leftover spells from the Day before.

But wouldn't that be all of them ?


Psi51 wrote:
Cap. Darling wrote:
It seems they need the Daily preperation both to change spells and to renew there dayli number of spells. So without the hour of preperation they only have the leftover spells from the Day before.
But wouldn't that be all of them ?

Only if he/she ditent cast any spells since the last preperation. The relevant rule text goes somthing like

"An arcanist must choose and prepare her spells ahead of time by getting 8 hours of sleep and spending 1 hour studying her spellbook. While studying, the arcanist decides what spells to prepare and refreshes her available spell slots for the day."

So with put preperation no fresh slots for the Day. Just like wizards and clerics preperation is needed to get new spells and sorceres need there 15 minutes meditation.
Edit: if you ask if a Arcanist get his mind wiped by sleeping? I belive the answer is no.


Snowblind wrote:
KestrelZ wrote:
...(unclear as to where spell mastery lands with arcanists).

Rules text

Spell Mastery wrote:
Prerequisite: 1st-level wizard

There is even an FAQ on it. Wizards only.

I could still imagine that Arcanist CAN, because the wizard is his parent class!


Helikon wrote:
Snowblind wrote:
KestrelZ wrote:
...(unclear as to where spell mastery lands with arcanists).

Rules text

Spell Mastery wrote:
Prerequisite: 1st-level wizard

There is even an FAQ on it. Wizards only.

I could still imagine that Arcanist CAN, because the wizard is his parent class!

Parent Class means nothing unless there is text stating that it counts for one of it's parent classes(ex. Brawler)


Helikon wrote:
Snowblind wrote:
KestrelZ wrote:
...(unclear as to where spell mastery lands with arcanists).

Rules text

Spell Mastery wrote:
Prerequisite: 1st-level wizard

There is even an FAQ on it. Wizards only.

I could still imagine that Arcanist CAN, because the wizard is his parent class!

Several of the hybrid classes have rules that allow them to take feats that is "parent class only" like brawler and swashbuckler. Arcanist dosent have that so i dont think it works.


The Arcanist prepares spells like a wizard and should follow the wizard rules in spell preparation. So, as already stated, if the wizard hasn't cast a prepared spell yet, then it rolls over to the next day.

The equivalent for the arcanist, albeit more complicated, should be if the arcanist still has spells slots available for a spell level, then his prepared spells are still prepared and ready to cast. If the arcanist has expended all slots for that spell level, then the prepared spells are also wiped out until resting and re-preparing spells.

The arcanist must still go through the motions of preparing spells:

Quote:
An arcanist must choose and prepare her spells ahead of time by getting 8 hours of sleep and spending 1 hour studying her spellbook. While studying, the arcanist decides what spells to prepare and refreshes her available spell slots for the day.

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His spells just roll over the next day.

If you get the 8 hours you get your castings back but same list.

They can choose to change the prepared spells or keep them the same. Its not hard to figure out. Arcanist wasn't treated any differently than the wizard when it comes to preparing thier spells.


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There are some differences between an Arcanist preparing a spell and a Wizard.

As best I can tell, only the Wizard can leave a spell slot open -- there is nothing indicating that an Arcanist can do this.

A literal reading of RAW would be that they need to prepare spells each day. Doing anything with ACG and RAW is dangerous though...lots of stuff in there isn't clearly written. I would say they keep the same spells prepared unless they study.

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