Keep List Trading

[Matt Morris]

I'm interested in seeing what people have kept,and I have a list to share, if anyone is interested.

[The Golux]

ALRIGHT! I have finished my list but it is still super long. I'll send summaries to the people that send me (including those who already did), and if you want the full text of any of the items let me know.

[Jaragil]

Finally managed to compile some sort of list. I sent it to all those that asked for one in this thread.

[James Casey]

I have a list for sharing and am interested in getting some lists! Please PM me and I will PM you mine.

[Christopher Wasko]

After swapping keep lists with some folks and seeing the BROAD diversity of favored items, I compiled all of the individual keep lists sent to me into a personal top 32 "exit poll." I'm happy to share the list with anyone who has PMed me a personal top 32/keep list and expresses interest in seeing it.

[Terminalmancer]

I'd be interested in seeing anyone's keep lists who want to share. I've got a top 10 or 15 list right now that I'd be happy to share.

Are there any rules or guidelines about including/not including commentary on the items? Just include names and nothing else? This seems sort of pseudopublic...

[Jarrett Sigler]

I'll be that selfish guy. I just want to know if I'm on your "Keep List".

However: I CAN wait until the Critique threads open up... maybe... that's 8 days atleast.

[Thunderfrog]

Sent some out.

[The Golux]

I sent mine to a few more people, interested in reading any people have to send.

[Andrew Marlowe]

I'm interested.

[Terminalmancer]

I've sent my list, such as it is, out to everyone here! Sorry if I double-messaged anyone. There's a lot of you. (Us?)

[Raisse]

I can't remember if this happened in previous years, but I hope people use this thread to post their keep lists after the Top 32 are announced. I'd like to see which items made the majority of people's lists and how that stacked up against the final judging.

[Isaac Volynskiy]

Wasko is compiling that into a file (from everyone who sends him a list).

[frank gori]

because I am too lazy to keep track of everyone in the thread I'm only sending to those that message me first (I was proactive for liek the first 8-10)

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Christopher Wasko wrote:

After swapping keep lists with some folks and seeing the BROAD diversity of favored items, I compiled all of the individual keep lists sent to me into a personal top 32 "exit poll." I'm happy to share the list with anyone who has PMed me a personal top 32/keep list and expresses interest in seeing it.

Sent you my FINAL list. I would like an exit poll please!

[Coleman]

Okay, now that voting is wrapping up I'm interested in swapping lists. I've sent it to everyone who recently commented about wanting lists. If anyone else wants to see mine, let me know! And anyone willing to share, please send me your list!

Good luck to all those still in the contest!

[benjamin wilkins]

I'm a little surprised at how diverse these lists are. It's almost as though we're all different people who like different things for different reasons with wildly different subtle and secret biases. In any case, the statistics are fascinating.

[Rich Malena]

I'd say that I'm too lazy to work on a keep list throughout the competition, but really I'm just terrified of looking at all of these lists. I can handle one big reveal from the judges next week, but constant reveals from your peers? Yiiiiikes.

I mean, NO PRESSURE, right?

[Coleman]

Angry Wiggles wrote:

I'm a little surprised at how diverse these lists are. It's almost as though we're all different people who like different things for different reasons with wildly different subtle and secret biases. In any case, the statistics are fascinating.

Very true.

Speaking only for myself, I didn't even reach dedicated, so my list was limited to those items I did see. There were plenty I didn't see, sadly. I don't know how folks found the time to vote as often as they did, but I am impressed.

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Wowzers! 32 people submitted to the exit poll and 276 unique items. Of course, some of those items didn't survive the cull.

[Anthony Adam]

I did say that the quality of entries this year would result in a much flatter distribution of votes. Yay, i got something right ! ;)

[Isaac Volynskiy]

Rich Malena wrote:

I'd say that I'm too lazy to work on a keep list throughout the competition, but really I'm just terrified of looking at all of these lists. I can handle one big reveal from the judges next week, but constant reveals from your peers? Yiiiiikes.

I mean, NO PRESSURE, right?

But that's the best part!

[Tripp Elliott]

I would be very interested in seeing anyone's top 32 or top 20 lists, please feel free to send them along.

Disclaimer: I did not keep my own list, so I'm a blood sucking vampire here, who will take lists and view them, but not return one.

[Nickolas Russell]

Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:

I would be very interested in seeing anyone's top 32 or top 20 lists, please feel free to send them along.

Disclaimer: I did not keep my own list, so I'm a blood sucking vampire here, who will take lists and view them, but not return one.

Ditto, for me it's still a learning experience, so seeing what people think is good would help tremendously.

I'd like to put together a nice artsy looking PDF of all the great items from this round too if I do get enough lists.

[Steven Helt]

I have a list I'll privately share (now that voting is closed).

Show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

Ew. You know what I mean.

[Clay Clouser]

I would also like to see some peoples keep lists if they don't mind sharing.

[Mikko Kallio]

Anyone who's compiled a Keep list should consider trimming it down to 20 items for the Detect Mojo contest. The contest rules are here and an update regarding interviews can be found here.

[Eric Morton]

Last year, I was given the go-ahead by Paizo staff to post a public Round 1 exit poll in the week before the Top 32 reveal.

Here is what the host of last's years contest said about Round 1 exit polling (link):

Sean K Reynolds wrote:

1) The judges are already looking at items sorted to the top by 300,000 votes. A few more people listing which ones they liked isn't going to impact what the judges think of the item.

2) I trust the judges to evaluate the voter 1–100 items based on their own opinions and experiences.

3) And that's assuming any of the judges even looked at these volunteer exit polls, which I don't think they did. Their priorities were posting comments on 100 items while dodging periods of website outages, not checking the RPG Superstar General Discussion board for other threads about what items people liked. ;)

In other words: this is fine, and I don't think it would have an impact on what the judges say or vote for any items.

That being said, last year's exit poll did a poor job predicting the 2014 Round 1 results, despite having over forty contributors.

Based on that lack of predictive power, I'm going to sit out this year's exit polling and list swapping.

[Brigg]

I'm still interested in swapping lists. Mine isn't a top 32, it's more or less the items that really stood out to me.

[Winterwalker]

I'm interested in peoples keep lists, if they want to share with me :)

[frank gori]

Eric Morton wrote:

Last year, I was given the go-ahead by Paizo staff to post a public Round 1 exit poll in the week before the Top 32 reveal.

Here is what the host of last's years contest said about Round 1 exit polling (link):

Sean K Reynolds wrote:

1) The judges are already looking at items sorted to the top by 300,000 votes. A few more people listing which ones they liked isn't going to impact what the judges think of the item.

2) I trust the judges to evaluate the voter 1–100 items based on their own opinions and experiences.

3) And that's assuming any of the judges even looked at these volunteer exit polls, which I don't think they did. Their priorities were posting comments on 100 items while dodging periods of website outages, not checking the RPG Superstar General Discussion board for other threads about what items people liked. ;)

In other words: this is fine, and I don't think it would have an impact on what the judges say or vote for any items.

That being said, last year's exit poll did a poor job predicting the 2014 Round 1 results, despite having over forty contributors.

Based on that lack of predictive power, I'm going to sit out this year's exit polling and list swapping.

I think the way to up the predictive power is to use lists with marathon voter and higher. Might even have enough champion voters for a decent sample size.

[The Golux]

yeah, my keep list isn't even exactly the best items that I think will win, it's cool ones that I'd like to use or see used (excluding mine).

[LeavetheSilver]

Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:

I would be very interested in seeing anyone's top 32 or top 20 lists, please feel free to send them along.

Disclaimer: I did not keep my own list, so I'm a blood sucking vampire here, who will take lists and view them, but not return one.

I'm one of those people too. :) I didn't keep a list of my own, and I'm just curious to see what types of items made people's lists. As someone who more than likely didn't survive the cull (I'm not going looking for confirmation of this, just waiting on the official "Sorry, Charlie" notice), I'm interested in what people liked seeing.

[Curaigh]

Eric Morton wrote:

...That being said, last year's exit poll did a poor job predicting the 2014 Round 1 results, despite having over forty contributors.

Based on that lack of predictive power, I'm going to sit out this year's exit polling and list swapping.

This isn't really an exit poll. It is my keep list. My keep list has items I liked and several of them have not shown up on the post-cull list.

I agree with GM_solspiral in that some form of determiner would make an exit more accurate as a poll (personally I look forward to Mikko's mojo minder contest). But there isn't an exit poll and what I've seen makes no attempts at predicting. (If it did my submission would be on the list, like, 32 times. :)

Can any statisticians/pollsters out there tell me how many contributers it would take for decent accuracy? I know it is based on the total number of voters (votes?) but how big of a sample would be needed?

[Isaac Volynskiy]

My keep list is not entirely items I predict to succeed, just the ones I like (though there are some intersections between the two spheres).

[The black raven]

Just sent my list to all those who seemed interested. If you did not get it and are interested, please PM me ;-)

[Covent]

I would highly recommend sending your keep lists to Christopher Wasko, as he is compiling an exit poll that I at least have found very interesting.

[Lady Firedove]

Now that voting is done...
I didn't vote enough to even make Star this year (busy life!), so I definitely didn't see most of the items, but from what I did see, there are several I thought were neat enough to keep for possible future game use.
If you'd like to message me your own keep list, I'd be very curious to see it and trade you mine.
Thanks! :)

[James Casey]

Of the 17 lists I have received (my own is not included in the below tallies), I have found some interesting statistics already!

One item is on 8 of the lists
One item is on 7 of the lists
Two items are on 6 of the lists
One item is on 5 of the lists
Eight items are on 4 of the lists

I know Chris probably has a better list, but my preliminary list sifting is pretty interesting.

[D. W.]

I didn't think to record any of my favorites or "keeps" during voting, but if anyone kept a favorites list or exit poll data, I'd love to see it.