We need names for sizes beyond collossal.

[Rogar Stonebow]

As we are able to increase sizes beyond collossal, I suggest we give these sizes official (unofficially) names.

Let me begin with my suggestions.

Collossal 》Humongus》Titanic

Ok lets hear your ideas. Then we can vote!!!

(Thanks to those of you humor me! A rasberry to those who ignore me.)

[Shadowborn]

Ginormous

Gigadiculous

Holy $#1& That's Big!

[TOZ]

DANG I'M HUGE

[blahpers]

- Big McLargeHuge
- Peanuts Compared To Space

[Mrpops]

What I just do it micro and macro.

Smaller than fine is micro. So it would go fine, micro colossal, micro gargantuan,micro huge, micro large, micro medium, and so on. THen it would go to supermicro.

Same with macro. Colossal, macro fine, macro diminutive, macro tiny, macro small, macro medium, and so on.

Scale is usually done between two exponents of two in feet.

So medium is 2^2 - 2^3, large is 2^3 - 2^4, and so on. Colossal is 2^7 - 2^8, macro fine is 2^8 - 2^9, macro diminutive is 2^9-2^10.

[Dave Justus]

I believe adventurers who encounter things larger than colossal use terms that are not appropriate for a family friendly site to describe them.

[TheJayde]

Collossal > Titanic > Metropolic > Planetary > Galactic > Unfathomable > The Human Ego

[Rogar Stonebow]

Dave Justus wrote:

I believe adventurers who encounter things larger than colossal use terms that are not appropriate for a family friendly site to describe them.

Lol

[Claxon]

Googol

And if somehow that isn't large enough, Googolplex.

[Aelryinth]

'googol' is a number. As a descriptive term, you'd have to say 'googolic' and 'googolplexive'.

==Aelryinth

[Sissyl]

The semiofficial next step up in the 3.0 Spelljammer rules was Awesome size, used for the biggest ships. BECMI D&D also had a size table that expanded things quite far enough: The biggest category, Cyclopean, was planet-sized.

[Claxon]

Aelryinth wrote:

'googol' is a number. As a descriptive term, you'd have to say 'googolic' and 'googolplexive'.

==Aelryinth

I'm aware it's a number, but if somone asked you what units it doesn't really matter.

A googol is larger than the number of hydrogen atoms thought to exist in the universe (hydrogen is also the most common element). It doesn't matter if the unit is the radius of an hyrogen atom. You would be the biggest thing in the universe. If you were the size of a googolplex you would be larger than the universe.

[knightnday]

Fluffy, Damn, and Oh Hell No!

Thank you Gabriel Iglesias

[Peachbottom]

I wonder if I could use a refrigerator box as a miniature. The only problem would be that I couldn't see the players' faces behind the thing when I put it down.

[Randarak]

Grandiose? Astronomical? Parsecian? Supersized? Really Freakin' Big?

[Rogar Stonebow]

Randarak wrote:

Grandiose? Astronomical? Parsecian? Supersized? Really Freakin' Big?

I like astronomical as well as galactic which was mentioned earlier.

[LazarX]

Rogar Stonebow wrote:

As we are able to increase sizes beyond collossal, I suggest we give these sizes official (unofficially) names.

Let me begin with my suggestions.

Collossal 》Humongus》Titanic

Ok lets hear your ideas. Then we can vote!!!

(Thanks to those of you humor me! A rasberry to those who ignore me.)

When you start building foes that are larger than your combat mats, it's time to subdivide them into zones and treating them indivdidually. :) Much like the final combat for the WOW Cataclysm expansion.

[Kazaan]

Large>Huge>Gargantuan>Colossal>Titanic>Behemoth>Venti> Cosmic>Yourmom

[Rogar Stonebow]

Kazaan wrote:

Large>Huge>Gargantuan>Colossal>Titanic>Behemoth>Venti> Cosmic>Yourmom

Behemoth is another one I like.

However, I don't like your mom.

[thegreenteagamer]

Um, why? I mean, how many creatures are there that are that big?

[Rogar Stonebow]

Partially thought exercise, partially because.

[thegreenteagamer]

Well, in that case, after colossal it should go...

Big, Healthy, Husky, Fluffy, and Dayyyum...and OH HELL NO!

Thank You Gabriel Iglesias

[Blindmage]

We can increase size past colossal?

[Vod Canockers]

I use Vast.

[Cerberus Seven]

Monstrous. Immense. Titanic is probably the best one I can think of, it's origin is even based in fantasy.

[Lord Vukodlak]

Titanic, Tremendous, Brobdingnagian, "That's no mountain"

[Tiny Coffee Golem]

"Not a moon"

[Rogar Stonebow]

Cerberus Seven wrote:

Monstrous. Immense. Titanic is probably the best one I can think of, it's origin is even based in fantasy.

I agree.

[Mathius]

So how do we get to these sizes for anything other then weapon damage?

[PIXIE DUST]

Rogar Stonebow wrote:

Kazaan wrote:

Large>Huge>Gargantuan>Colossal>Titanic>Behemoth>Venti> Cosmic>Yourmom

However, I don't like your mom.

Hey! His mom is a perfectly nice lady! There is nothing wrong with his mom :P

[voideternal]

Colossal < Kilocolossal < Megacolossal < Gigacolossal < Teracolossal < Petacolossal < Exacolossal < Zettacolossal < Yottacolossal.

Be prepared to buy extra battle mats. Like, more battle mats in higher orders of magnitude. Squared. Like, for Kilocolossal creatures, not 1,000 battle mats, but 1,000 ^ 2 battle mats (because pathfinder battle is two-dimensional, and 1,000 battle mats is only enough to house one dimension of a kilocolossal creature).

[Rogar Stonebow]

PIXIE DUST wrote:

Rogar Stonebow wrote:

Kazaan wrote:

Large>Huge>Gargantuan>Colossal>Titanic>Behemoth>Venti> Cosmic>Yourmom

However, I don't like your mom.

Hey! His mom is a perfectly nice lady! There is nothing wrong with his mom :P

I do not like your mom either.

[Rogar Stonebow]

Your moms not fat she is collossal plus!

[TheJayde]

Rogar Stonebow wrote:

Kazaan wrote:

Large>Huge>Gargantuan>Colossal>Titanic>Behemoth>Venti> Cosmic>Yourmom

Behemoth is another one I like.

However, I don't like your mom.

Aw man! Why you hating on his mom?

I'd say I was ninja'd if it wasnt just completely my ownmistake not hitting submit post during my lunch period. heh.

[Randarak]

"Who's that sitting on the gaming table?"

"Oh, its just your mom for the final encounter."

[DrDeth]

My cat Maximus, the 30# Maine coon sat on our battle-mat once. We were trying to figure out his Size and Hit dice= decided on "Maximus" and "too many".

Thus, I nominate "Maximus".

[Randarak]

Seconded

[Snorb]

I've seen Awesome and Monumental for sizes beyond Colossal. I THINK BESM 3rd Edition used the same size rules d20 does. One second!!

Okay, I'm back, and I really did just go across the house to get my copy of BESM 3e. The size values in that book (along with my own extrapolation for modifiers) are as follows:

Speck (+128 to hit/AC, -128 CMB/D)
Minute (+64 to hit/AC, -64 CMB/D)
Wee (+32 to hit/AC, -32 CMB/D)
Teeny (+16 to hit/AC, -16 CMB/D)
Fine (+8 to hit/AC, -8 CMB/D) [Anything above this on the chart might as well list their damage as "1" at this point.]
Diminutive (+4 to hit/AC, -4 CMB/D)
Tiny (+2 to hit/AC, -2 CMB/D)
Small (+1 to hit/AC, -1 CMB/D) [3/4"x2/4" mini]
Medium (baseline) [1"x1" mini]
Large (-1 to hit/AC, +1 CMB/D) [2"x2" mini]
Huge (-2 to hit/AC, +2 CMB/D) [3"x3" mini]
Gargantuan (-4 to hit/AC, +4 CMB/D) [4"x4" mini]
Colossal (-8 to hit/AC, +8 CMB/D) [6"x6" mini]
Enormous (-16 to hit/AC, +16 CMB/D) [8"x8" mini]
Monstrous (-32 to hit/AC, +32 CMB/D) [1'x1' mini]
Towering (-64 to hit/AC, +64 CMB/D) [18"x18" mini]
Monumental (-128 to hit/AC, +128 CMB/D) [Why roll dice?!] [2'x2' mini]

[Hark]

Save your brain.

Trying to remember different names for all of these sizes is hard work. Use Colossal+ and add a + for each size category above colossal.

So Colossal+++ is three size categories larger than Colossal.

The same can be done for small stuff with Fine-

[Sissyl]

Worth noting is also that in the 3.5 book, probably in PF as well, the smallest two categories (Fine and Diminutive) are not used as proper creatures, instead only as swarms.

[blahpers]

Randarak wrote:

Seconded

Motion passed.

[PIXIE DUST]

I find it funny that the Book of Elder Evils had the leviathan and in it's description it literally said that it was so large that general game descriptions could not be applied to it xD

[RJGrady]

Colossalicious.

[Sammy T]

Feeble
Poor
Typical
Good
Excellent
Remarkable
Incredible
Amazing
Monstrous
Unearthly
Shift X
Shift Y
Shift Z
Class 1000
Class 3000
Class 5000
Beyond

[Sissyl]

PIXIE DUST wrote:

I find it funny that the Book of Elder Evils had the leviathan and in it's description it literally said that it was so large that general game descriptions could not be applied to it xD

Indeed... beyond a certain point, you need to start calling it geography rather than anatomy.

[PIXIE DUST]

Oh yeah, The leviathan was described as an Ancient and giant serpent sleeping under the sea. It is so old that many of the islands in Faerun are actually grown ON the serpent. The serpent was literally planatery sized.

[Kazaan]

Regarding extra small sizes...

Just gonna leave this here.

[Rogar Stonebow]

Snorb wrote:

I've seen Awesome and Monumental for sizes beyond Colossal. I THINK BESM 3rd Edition used the same size rules d20 does. One second!!

Okay, I'm back, and I really did just go across the house to get my copy of BESM 3e. The size values in that book (along with my own extrapolation for modifiers) are as follows:

Speck (+128 to hit/AC, -128 CMB/D)
Minute (+64 to hit/AC, -64 CMB/D)
Wee (+32 to hit/AC, -32 CMB/D)
Teeny (+16 to hit/AC, -16 CMB/D)
Fine (+8 to hit/AC, -8 CMB/D) [Anything above this on the chart might as well list their damage as "1" at this point.]
Diminutive (+4 to hit/AC, -4 CMB/D)
Tiny (+2 to hit/AC, -2 CMB/D)
Small (+1 to hit/AC, -1 CMB/D) [3/4"x2/4" mini]
Medium (baseline) [1"x1" mini]
Large (-1 to hit/AC, +1 CMB/D) [2"x2" mini]
Huge (-2 to hit/AC, +2 CMB/D) [3"x3" mini]
Gargantuan (-4 to hit/AC, +4 CMB/D) [4"x4" mini]
Colossal (-8 to hit/AC, +8 CMB/D) [6"x6" mini]
Enormous (-16 to hit/AC, +16 CMB/D) [8"x8" mini]
Monstrous (-32 to hit/AC, +32 CMB/D) [1'x1' mini]
Towering (-64 to hit/AC, +64 CMB/D) [18"x18" mini]
Monumental (-128 to hit/AC, +128 CMB/D) [Why roll dice?!] [2'x2' mini]

Thats a good list.

[Mosaic]

I've used "Titanic" for Colossal+1, more for the size of armies using the Kingmaker battle rules than for monsters, but the two systems parallel each other.

I also use Huge = 15' base, Gargantuan = 20' base, Colossal = 30' base, and Titanic = 50' base, which makes Titanic the size of city block using a 50' grid (I can't remember if 50' is standard city-grid in Kingmaker or if that was a house rule).

[Pendagast]

That size is referred to as "wuuuu thaaaa faaaaaa"