The great white whale can have animal growth cast on it!As long as it is Gargatuan, otherwise it can't be targeted by the spell. :) Sadly, there is no mythic version.
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So you awaken said whale. It advances as cleric, it casts righteous might.
So you awaken said whale. It advances as cleric, it casts righteous might.
This will make it easier. Give it the Divine mythic template and Advanced template, it could then learn and cast righteous might.
I never liked the idea of having categories beyond colossal, as I think it sells the gargantuan and colossal size category pretty short. A gargantuan monster could swallow a mammoth whole, while the colossal monster could swallow whole that very same monster that ate the mammoth. Beyond that you could just increase reach and/or space.Except that's not the case at all. Only certain creatures can Swallow Whole; it's not a quality of being a certain size.
Gargantuan creatures are only 30x30/6in. bases, while Colossal are 12in. bases.
Colossal is freakishly huge for a normal human, but compare a Great Wyrm Red Dragon to an aircraft carrier; or better yet, an Island Turtle - those are creatures so huge entire cities are literally built on their backs. Are we supposed to believe that something that massive only has the same statistics as a creature that is dwarfed in comparison?
Having Size Categories larger than Colossal only makes sense, frankly.
Plenty of creatures can swallow whole. A colossal T-rex can swallow whales or even Krakens. I know not all big creatures can swallow whole, but the ones that can do exactly what I'm talking about.
Like I said, you can always use a bigger space and reach. The aspidochelone is a giant whale with an island on its back, it also has a space of 150'.
....I kind of want a general rule that you can swallow hole any creature 3 sizes smaller than you...
I say 3, since I am imagining a human doing it. They can't swallow halflings. They can't swallow cats. But how about a mouse?
Are you saying I can't shove a mouse (or somethign smaller) into my mouth? I know it wouldn't be pleasant, but it at least seems possible. Maybe make it give an AoO against 0 AC, where you can prevent it if you scratch up their mouth and make them spit you out.
....plus, when I imagine the players facing Gargantuan and larger foes, I just seem to want to imagine Attack on Titan. Sorry, I can't resist that.
So you awaken said whale. It advances as cleric, it casts righteous might.Then its stuck at Colossal, as Righteous Might only gives +1 size category.
It is already a Colossal whale
I never liked the idea of having categories beyond colossal, as I think it sells the gargantuan and colossal size category pretty short. A gargantuan monster could swallow a mammoth whole, while the colossal monster could swallow whole that very same monster that ate the mammoth. Beyond that you could just increase reach and/or space.Except that's not the case at all. Only certain creatures can Swallow Whole; it's not a quality of being a certain size.
Gargantuan creatures are only 30x30/6in. bases, while Colossal are 12in. bases.
Colossal is freakishly huge for a normal human, but compare a Great Wyrm Red Dragon to an aircraft carrier; or better yet, an Island Turtle - those are creatures so huge entire cities are literally built on their backs. Are we supposed to believe that something that massive only has the same statistics as a creature that is dwarfed in comparison?
Having Size Categories larger than Colossal only makes sense, frankly.
Plenty of creatures can swallow whole. A colossal T-rex can swallow whales or even Krakens. I know not all big creatures can swallow whole, but the ones that can do exactly what I'm talking about.
Like I said, you can always use a bigger space and reach. The aspidochelone is a giant whale with an island on its back, it also has a space of 150'.
....I kind of want a general rule that you can swallow hole any creature 3 sizes smaller than you...
I say 3, since I am imagining a human doing it. They can't swallow halflings. They can't swallow cats. But how about a mouse?
Are you saying I can't shove a mouse (or somethign smaller) into my mouth? I know it wouldn't be pleasant, but it at least seems possible. Maybe make it give an AoO against 0 AC, where you can prevent it if you scratch up their mouth and make them spit you out.
....plus, when I imagine the players facing Gargantuan and larger foes, I just seem to want to imagine Attack on Titan....
Humans do not have swallow whole.
Haflings do not have swallow whole.
Cats do not have swallow whole.
You do not have swallow whole.
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You do not have swallow whole.
So far as you know.
It's like how a huge dragon using beast shape to turn into a huge creature and still gaining the size bonuses to strength.
This is not precisely correct. A Huge creature casting a polymorph spell receives modifiers effectively reducing it's size to Medium (–8 Str, +4 Dex, –4 Con), *then* it receives the spell modifiers. This is in the Polymorph subschool rules.
So a Huge Adult Red Dragon casting Giant Form II (let's say from a scroll) to turn into a Fire Giant will net +0 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Con, trade +21 natural armor for +6, still have fire immunity, have a land speed of 50 ft, and much worse vision.
