Looking through my just purchased PDF, I was saddened to not see any Shaman Archetypes. Then I found them. They are missing the bookmark for the beginning on the Shaman section in the PDF, so all the shaman archetypes are listed in the bookmarks under Rogue.
Just checked, the 'Single file Lite' pdf has the bookmarks mostly correct, though the visionary and witch doctor bookmarks are under the Rogue.
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The shield brawler doesn't seem to have the weapon proficiencies for shield. I find this sad.
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The Bloodrager spell list has slow as both 3rd and 4th level spells.
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Eldritch Scion does not modify Spell Combat or spellcasting to work with metamagic. I have to assume metamagic increases casting time of Eldritch Scion's spells and, thus, make them incompatible with Spell Combat's "any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action" line. This is in addition to problems with Knowledge Pool and other class abilities.
This isn't the first time this has been overlooked for a spontaneous Magus archetype. Is this intended to keep Shocking Grasp-spamming Magi from going straight for Eldritch Scion or an accidental side effect?
Also, there are now two Order of the Beasts. One from Inner Sea Combat, one in ACG. Kind of annoying.
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Eldritch Scion does not modify Spell Combat or spellcasting to work with metamagic. I have to assume metamagic increases casting time of Eldritch Scion's spells and, thus, make them incompatible with Spell Combat's "any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action" line. This is in addition to problems with Knowledge Pool and other class abilities.
This isn't the first time this has been overlooked for a spontaneous Magus archetype. Is this intended to keep Shocking Grasp-spamming Magi from going straight for Eldritch Scion or an accidental side effect?
Also, there are now two Order of the Beasts. One from Inner Sea Combat, one in ACG. Kind of annoying.
As an update, I meant Spell Recall, not Knowledge Pool. Also, I'm not sure if there is an issue with Spell combat and metamagic. Partially because I realized Spell Combat is very ambiguous about working with metamagic to begin with, unless I'm missing something.
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Pg 89 Brawler Archetype Wild Child. Animal Companion (EX) Replaces the bonus combat feats gained at 2nd, 5th, 11th, and 14th lv. Wild Tricks replaces the the bonus combat feats gained at 5th, 8th, 11th, 14th, 17th, and 20th lv. So... both abilities replace the 5th and 14th lv bonus combat feats.
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Wait... doesn't.... doesn't that mean that the Archetype doesn't work with... itself??
The shield brawler doesn't seem to have the weapon proficiencies for shield. I find this sad.
Some one already mentioned this, they get proficiency with a shield through the "close" weapon group.
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The shield brawler doesn't seem to have the weapon proficiencies for shield. I find this sad.Some one already mentioned this, they get proficiency with a shield through the "close" weapon group.
Nope. Shield champion replaces all armor and weapon proficiencies of the base brawler, and only gets simple weapons. No close weapons group.
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The shield brawler also doesn't seem to get a shield exemption from the brawlers AC bonus. So, his AC isn't as good as one would expect. Basically, the only thing shield champion can do well is throw a shield, which doesn't seem like the best option for most cases.
Is there a reason there is no Extra Fervor feat?
Because just like the extra ninja talent feat, it would break the game!
Kitsune, I think Paizo has been consistently doing values like this in the past. Most style feats with crazy amounts of prereqs have the same issue.
Not saying they should keep it, but it's nothing new or specific to that feat.
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Someone on Facebook noticed this one:
The ring of summoning affinity for asuras and aeons add CR 7 critters to the 4th level list. That should probably be 6th.
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Why do Paizo designers/editors hate the cleric so much?That is a question asked at my table about once a game session. They just don't really have any class features to keep them competitive with everything else released. Thus, archetypes have little to realistically change.
Thread jack a little, but I found this ironic enough to post.
I was recently posting in a thread where over half the people were telling me how overpowered clerics were.
This is a funny old world. :)
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Being powerful doesn't keep you from wanting the same kinds of shiny new toys that everyone else gets. I do suppose it makes it harder to design those toys in the first place though.
Hopefully, they didn't order a TON of prints, so they can make fixes - then the few fools who bought the hardcopy on day one would end up with rare misprints.. :-)
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pg 198 Wall of Blindness/Deafness
in the Effect section it says the wall is either a wall or a ring but in the spell description it says "The wall must be vertical and rectangular."
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This may be an error,or intentional.
For the Psychic Searcher archetype of the oracle, p106, it says, "A psychic searcher’s inspiration pool is based on her Wisdom modifier, not Intelligence."
Was that meant to be Charisma, or is wisdom important to theis flavor of oracle?
Draining Strike should probably end when the target is healed rather than hit by a spell. Probably.
This may be an error,or intentional.
For the Psychic Searcher archetype of the oracle, p106, it says, "A psychic searcher’s inspiration pool is based on her Wisdom modifier, not Intelligence."
Was that meant to be Charisma, or is wisdom important to theis flavor of oracle?
Agreed, it seems like it should be either Intelligence or Charisma.
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Is the "Strong Life" ability of the spiritualist investigator archetype supposed to be a level 2 ability? Contrary to the usual format, this ability does not have the "At x level,…" phrase.
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page 84, for the bloodrider AT:
Blood Bond (Su): At 9th level, the bloodrider and his
feral mount gain a closer bond that allows the bloodrider
to augment his mount based on his bloodline. While the
bloodrider is bloodraging and on his feral mount, he
grants the mount all the immunities and resistances he
gains from bloodline powers. Furthermore, whenever the
bloodrager is affected by a spell or spell-like ability with
the range of personal while on the feral mount, the feral
mount also gains the benef it of that spell. This ability
replaces the bloodline feat gained at.
there should be an end to that sentence, not just a floating "at"
Divine Protection's prerequisite line reads:
"Cha 13, Knowledge (religion) 5 ranks, ability to cast 2nd-level divine spells; blessings†, domains, or mystery class feature."
It needs to read:
"Cha 13; Knowledge (religion) 5 ranks; ability to cast 2nd-level divine spells; blessings†, domains, or mystery class feature."One must use semicolons in place of ALL commas when one of the items of a comma separated list contains commas.
I'm sure no one actually cares, but I so seldom get to *use* that kind of semicolon.
Isn't this a specific punctuation style for feat prereqs that means you need
Cha 13 AND Knowledge (Religion) AND 2nd level spells and ONE OF (Blessings OR Domains OR Mystery)
Yes.
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The Spell Stricken Heart says it does 3d6 of damage but in the full descriptor it says 2d6 of damage.
Trickery Blessing, p68
Double (minor)
"This ability doesn't stack with the additional damage from the mirror image spell"
Should probably be something like ..."doesn't stack with the duplicates created by the mirror image spell" or so.
Nope. Shield champion replaces all armor and weapon proficiencies of the base brawler, and only gets simple weapons. No close weapons group.The shield brawler doesn't seem to have the weapon proficiencies for shield. I find this sad.Some one already mentioned this, they get proficiency with a shield through the "close" weapon group.
Let me quote the shield champion's weapon and armor proficiencies:
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: A shield champion is proficient with all simple weapons. She is also proficient with light armor, and with bucklers, light shields, and heavy shields. This replaces the brawler’s weapon and armor proficiencies.
(emphasis mine)
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Nope. Shield champion replaces all armor and weapon proficiencies of the base brawler, and only gets simple weapons. No close weapons group.The shield brawler doesn't seem to have the weapon proficiencies for shield. I find this sad.Some one already mentioned this, they get proficiency with a shield through the "close" weapon group.Let me quote the shield champion's weapon and armor proficiencies:
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: A shield champion is proficient with all simple weapons. She is also proficient with light armor, and with bucklers, light shields, and heavy shields. This replaces the brawler’s weapon and armor proficiencies.(emphasis mine)
Shield Bash: If I am proficient with wearing shields, can I make a shield bash without a nonproficiency penalty?Armor proficiencies and weapon proficiencies are different things.
Table 6–4: Weapon (page 142) lists light shields, heavy shields, and spiked shields as martial weapons. The shield bash attacks entries (page 152) say that using a shield in this way is a "martial bludgeoning weapon."
Regardless of whether or not you are proficient in wearing a shield for defense, attacking with a shield is using a martial weapon and you take appropriate penalties if you are not proficient in martial weapons (for example, if you are a cleric, you take a –4 nonproficiency penalty when making shield bash attacks because you are not proficient in martial weapons).
Ah, interesting.
Regardless, it's a good thing the shield champion isn't doing a shield bash, eh?
Throw Shield (Ex): At 3rd level, a shield champion can throw a medium or light shield as a normal (non-improvised) thrown weapon with a range increment of 10 feet or the shield’s range increment, whichever is greater.
The thrown shield deals the same damage as a shield bash, and any damage increases from shield spikes apply to this attack. A shield champion is treated as having the Far Shot feat for the purpose of determining range increment penalties for throwing a shield.
I may be off, but this feature is not "shield bash at range". It just deals damage as one.
It even says non-improvised. (Though the 'medium' should probably read 'heavy', and the 'normal' probably 'simple'.)
Yeah, I think people are just bummed they can't bash when they don't toss their shield.
Yeah, I think people are just bummed they can't bash when they don't toss their shield.
It's doubly bumming since the default class does have the weapon proficiency so is possibly better at shield fighting than the archetype made for shield fighting.
The point of the archetype isn't melee shield fighting though. It's ranged shield fighting. All features and abilities a shield champion has are for throwing its shield.
One thing of note: the returning shield ability doesn't specify, whether you lose the shield bonus to AC when you throw your shield.
Unless you have the shield caught or opt to not have it returning, I'd say you keep the shield bonus.
At 20th level, when a bloodrager enters a bloodrage, the morale bonus to his Strength and Constitution increases to +8, and the morale bonus on his Will saves increases to +4. Furthermore, the spell he can apply to himself at the beginning of a bloodrage due to the greater bloodrage class feature is not limited to only spells of 2nd level or lower.
Thing is, I can't find anything in Blood Casting, Bloodrage, or Spell Casting (at least in the PRD version) that says that bloodrage limited the level of spell in the first place.
It's in the Greater Bloodrage class feature:
At 11th level, when a bloodrager enters a bloodrage, the morale bonus to his Strength and Constitution increases to +6 and the morale bonus on his Will saves increases to +3. In addition, upon entering a bloodrage, the bloodrager can apply the effects a bloodrager spell he knows of 2nd level or lower to himself. The spell must have a range of touch or personal. If the spell’s duration is greater than 1 round, it instead lasts for the duration of the bloodrage. This use consumes a bloodrager spell slot, as if he had cast the spell; he must have the spell slot available to take advantage of this effect.
Greater bloodrage counts as the barbarian’s greater rage ability for the purposes of feat prerequisites, feat abilities, magic item abilities, and spell effects.
Bloodrage doesn't limit your ability to cast spells during the rage.
Greater Bloodrage gives the option to cast a spell the instant you enter the bloodrage.
^Got it. Still, seems a bit confusing the way they put this together; I didn't figure out how Greater Bloodrage was supposed to use this until just now. Probably should have put a paragraph break in front of this, and should clarify the type of action for using a spell this way (presumably a free action, since entering a Bloodrage is a free action).
The point of the archetype isn't melee shield fighting though. It's ranged shield fighting. All features and abilities a shield champion has are for throwing its shield.
I don't believe that was supposed to be the case. Hopefully, I am allowed to post this blurb:
...a shield champion has perfected an entire martial discipline relying on only her hand-to-hand fighting skills and her ever-present shield. What she forgoes in weapon versatility and improved combat maneuvering, she makes up for in her ability to turn her defense into a weapon.
So, the flavor blurb of the class doesn't even mention throwing a shield, yet this is all the archetype as written can do without feat dipping. And shield throwing is fairly weak ability to bear such a high cost, as it can't even take advantage of iterative attacks.
Personally, I'm hoping the lack of shield weapon proficiencies was simply an oversight that will be corrected in FAQ or errata. Of course, even with the weapon profs, it's still a fairly weak archetype, but as is, it just looks broken.
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..., as it can't even take advantage of iterative attacks.
So you did not read the returning shield class feature then?
If a shield champion has additional attacks from a high base attack bonus, these additional attacks can be ricochets off an earlier target. [/ooc]