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Ravenlute, CBDunkerson, and their identifiable company mates have been removed from Freevale's roster. They are no longer a part of the settlement and do not speak for Freevale.

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Ah, Gpunk strikes again. Well done sir. Keep up the hard work.

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*pokes the ashes of his campfire. pauses. grunts.*

Well I'd say that is a thoroughly torched manner of behavior.

No matter, I will be watching this "Freevale" and any moves made by Xelias towards them. Grickin is my friend, and he also supports The Viridian Circle as I do. It would be wrong to dispose of a friend's wisdom so easily, as it is wrong to dispense with formalities in many manners of society; though certainly red tape will be cut before time.

A precious jig is required to dance between the lines of "complacent" and "heavy-handed" in terms of any actions in life, especially life eternal as it would appear we now have. It is a jig I take keen interest in, and I say neither side is better than the other. This to all parties, for failing to act is worse in some cases than acting to fail. Ultimately it is the individuals choice whether to bow down to oppression or not, and indeed the individual decides their own terms of oppression, whether they blind themselves from it or rapidly change it on whim.

A burning hand which clutches the frailties of existence cannot have a hope to stave off the inevitability that is the fall into grim and putrid continuation. It is thus the job of everyone to take up the implements they are best suited to wield in response to these inherent mannerisms. The path winding may seem a circle, but for every step made in anguish and close-minded cloister is a step nonetheless inexorably forward. So do not tarry in your steps. Do not falter in your mind or your will. You will have doubts, and you will be in pain. These are no strangers to us! TRULY! Which of you can lay claim to having lived a life bereft of even some small measure of discomfort or distaste?! None of you, say I, and none of you, say whatever god you presume to. None, none, and none.

So do not hesitate, do not cleave to the path behind. There is no path behind. There is only forward. There is only what you need to do to be who you are, truly, and what path in which lies ineffectual ineptitude. And it is this path wherein lies the dreariness of absolute oppression; that of the willing oppression. Of accepted oppression. And that is my domain to police.

And police it I shall, never fear for that.

Always Penitent,
Brother Letholdus Zael

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Bluddwolf wrote:
KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Notmyrealname wrote:


Unlike a traditional mmo guild there needs to be a way to remove the leader of a settlement or it will just be their toy to play with as they want , not a good idea for PFO.

In a lot of MMOs the guild leader is autobooted if he does not login regularly, generally in favor of the person online the most.

This can have the hilarious consequence of the new leader being the newbie who is grinding his new character 24/7 to make it playable.

Which ones are those?

Fallen Earth has that as well.

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Gpunk wrote:
Ravenlute, CBDunkerson, and their identifiable company mates have been removed from Freevale's roster. They are no longer a part of the settlement and do not speak for Freevale.

So, now that you have claimed to have won the coup, what political positions would you have Freevale have?

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Phaeros will be happy to consider a company application from The Exiles or any subset thereof. During the War of Towers there will be a need for even more companies to control towers, and I would love to provide support to some companies with the goal of controlling several towers roughly northwest of Thornkeep.

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Something something come to Sunholm and maintain your autonomy something.

*toasts marshmellows over the embers of the burning bridge*

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This would be so much simpler to solve if we could all just go to the pub together.


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Kabal moved the pub too far and I refuse to exercise! Everyone blame Kabal again!

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Chaos in action. ;)

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dear god it is entropy.

Bringslite, the plan is coming full circle xD

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Bringslite of Fidelis wrote:
Chaos in action. ;)

But... but... ah man! You ruined the surprise!

*Sets a jello cup on the ground and walks away.*

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Kadere wrote:

Something something come to Sunholm and maintain your autonomy something.

*toasts marshmellows over the embers of the burning bridge*

I second that recommendation. *hands Kadere more marshmallows*

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I just realized again how infuriating it is that Films are released throughout the world at different times.

Captain America 1 and 2 getting released in Europe earlier then the US made no sense to me BUT NOW I have to wait 22 more days until I get to see Guardians of the Galaxy and do so while trying to avoid spoilers.

So about that jello cup.

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Ravenlute wrote:
Bringslite of Fidelis wrote:
Chaos in action. ;)

But... but... ah man! You ruined the surprise!

*Sets a jello cup on the ground and walks away.*

Honestly, I am sorry to see this happening to Freevale. There is no way for someone like me to sort out the facts and get at the heart of it all, but I am sad for you.

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Folks, try to take this to Private Messages. The world doesn't need your dirty laundry, and it just makes everyone involved look bad. Do your best to mend things, and if that doesn't happen, then go your separate ways and find a settlement that works more to your liking. I believe you could find several that could work nicely for you.

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"What the hell is there to discuss about? The game isn't playable yet."

That's the problem right there. That quote encapsulates every problem between BL and SBC right now.

There is SO MUCH metagame happening in here and over external forums and voice chat. There are regular livestreams and alpha keys being handed out. There's emails and PMs flying around. There is a COMMUNITY and a GAME growing out of this. But still, there's nothing to discuss.

You would refuse participate in the community and the affairs of your settlement, but hold that you deserve your say (behind closed doors) in the voice and actions of that same settlement?

That's the attitude that drove us to this. We had several people putting themselves out there, communicating with other groups, trying to forge relationships. Only to have others who couldn't be bothered to put in effort try their damndest to drag every single tiny decision and relationship through the mud with dissenting essays about what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

But to you, apparently that's all wasted effort anyway because there's no physical game there for YOU to play at this very moment.

The only thing I regret out of this is that Kobold Cleaver dropped tonight. He's the type of player we'd love to keep around. He put effort in, he gave a crap.


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Yeah, sorry. I wish y'all luck, though! Be interesting to see how Freevale turns out.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Yeah, sorry. I wish y'all luck, though! Be interesting to see how Freevale turns out.

Sunholm something something

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Bringslite of Fidelis wrote:
Chaos in action. ;)

I have to tip my hat (technically my nemes, I suppose) to any settlement that embraces its declared alignment with such gusto. Everyone expects Golgotha will be impressively eeeeevil, but this? Wow. Setting your own house on fire the day after you're handed the deed is nothing short of spectacular. That's pro-grade chaos right there.

PS: I'm not above ambulance chasing. Any former(?) Freevalians looking for a laid-back and *ahem* sparsely-populated settlement should PM me. Maybe we can offer you what you seek.

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Best of luck moving forward to all parties involved.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Kabal moved the pub too far and I refuse to exercise! Everyone blame Kabal again!

Kabal has a pub too. So it isn't that far. :-)

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I have made attempts to hear out both sides, PMs to and from Ravenlute, I'll have a chat this evening with DbD, and I have spoken to GPunk.

As much as I was hoping they could have worked this issue out, it is obvious that is likely not going to happen.

For Aragon's part, our settlement will support and looks to develop a number of cooperative systems with Freevale. It did not and does not matter to us who runs Freevale or how Freevale governs itself. Freevale is our neighbor, it is Chaotic Neutral, and so it provides Aragon the only opportunity in its vicinity to form a Chaotic Nation with.

As for those that have been "released" from Freevale. Aragon is not closing our doors to you, you are welcome to visit. We are not taking off the table the opportunity to become citizens of Aragon. But, considering the issues that apparently arose in Freevale, I would like to speak with each of you in our TS prior to that potentially taking place.

So as not to waste your time or ours, I would like to put a few things up front:

1. Aragon is governed in order to provide its citizens with as many mechanical advantages as possible. That means settlement to settlement agreements such as trade, Naps, skill training coordination, and eventually nation building are not issues that even a simple majority can take off the table.

2. Aragon supports freedom, probably greater freedom than most, at the company level. Any company sponsored by Aragon may keep its name, its leadership and its choice of activities. Aragon only has a few rules:

1. Common Defense of the Settlement
2. Positive Game Play
3. Adherence to the River Freedoms.

Although Alignment is preferred to be Chaotic, this could change based on game mechanics. Reputation must remain above -2500, but this can be modified based on game mechanics.

If these three rules and your understanding of how Aragon is looking to the future, you are more than welcome to drop I to our TS for a discussion. PM me for TS info.

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Shaibes wrote:
Bringslite of Fidelis wrote:
Chaos in action. ;)
Setting your own house on fire the day after you're handed the deed is nothing short of spectacular. That's pro-grade chaos right there.

See, we see it less as setting it on fire and more as fumigating.

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This is not my damn business and not my war, so I've kept my mouth shut, but your last post did the trick, BurnHavoc.
I don't know whay was happened in your settlement. You and Gpunk can be saints (low probability, but still...), people you kicked out can be hell incarnate (low probability too, but who knows?) - but I had read about your actions. And these actions were:
1. Set the shop under some promise. People come here assuming things will go as promised. I was amazed, actually with your key idea. You were only other guys who set their goals for themselves outside of "compete with other guys" field (Forgeholm did this too). And you set your difficulty level way higher than we did. Organically growing democrcy - wow! I didn't know how you can pull that - and you did not too.
2. Only asset that mattered in LR2 was votes of the players. These votes lose much of their significance after LR was finalized. People brought their votes to you. So you secured your spot with the sound number of votes and grand total of 40+ with hunker down bomus.
3. Then you changed your promise (sorry, I don't know polite word fir this in English) and after some bickering booted out all the folk who didn't agree wtih you. You have thir votes and your settlement now, They have nothing, but some dirty laundry. And you call this move "fumigation".
You had your reasons and probably lots of hurt feelongs. But you've cheated your neighbors and now you're trying to show us how bad they were. Wprse still you can't now even return votes to these guys - you part your ways with their stuff in your bags.
If you you can correct me or tell me why I can trust your future declarations I'll be happy to hear where I was wrong.

P.S. This is my personal opinion, not the official stance of my settlement.

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Men make history and not the other way around. In periods where there is no leadership, society stands still. Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. —Harry S. Truman

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Emp wrote:
Men make history and not the other way around. In periods where there is no leadership, society stands still. Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. —Harry S. Truman
Robert Heinlein wrote:

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as “bad luck.”

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Folks this behavior is unacceptable for paizo.com forums. Threats, insults and personal attacks on others are not welcome here. While on the paizo.com forums you are expected to be civil to one another, even when disagreeing or working out differences.

Edit: I've reread the thread and unremoved some posts that I initially took out. Please do not bring drama from other forums to the paizo.com messageboards.

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Wow... a dire bear for a moderator. Awesome! The druids will be pleased!

Scarab Sages

She is a Dire Bear that got a Druid as companion.. hehe

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Awakened Bear with Druid levels? Check Please.

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Technically, a "dire care bear manager" doesn't necessarily need to be a dire care bear herself; she just needs to have some working for her. I've worked for enough engineering managers who were anything but engineers.

Either way, though, I don't want to offend the woman who has dire care bears as direct reports.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Kabal moved the pub too far and I refuse to exercise! Everyone blame Kabal again!

Shh. Quiet. Everyone is looking in the other direction right now.

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And this time posting a direct quote from Ryan Dancey without any comment got a post deleted. Well here it is again. And if you're going to remove it again, you may as well ban me.

"It is expected behavior and a sign that we are succeeding."
-----Ryan Dancy

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:

And this time posting a direct quote from Ryan Dancey without any comment got a post deleted. Well here it is again. And if you're going to remove it again, you may as well ban me.

"It is expected behavior and a sign that we are succeeding."
-----Ryan Dancy

You rebel, you.....

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Anyone laying odds on how long it will take the Freevale Liberation Front to evict Blunt Logic?

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DeciusBrutus wrote:
Anyone laying odds on how long it will take the Freevale Liberation Front to evict Blunt Logic?

@Decius

I'm not entirely sure that attempting to provoke argumentative/debate in an already moderated/heated thread is wise. I will, of course, defer to your better judgement on such matters and leave it be.

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Lord Regent: Deacon Wulf wrote:
DeciusBrutus wrote:
Anyone laying odds on how long it will take the Freevale Liberation Front to evict Blunt Logic?

@Decius

I'm not entirely sure that attempting to provoke argumentative/debate in an already moderated/heated thread is wise. I will, of course, defer to your better judgement on such matters and leave it be.

Sometimes, gentlemen, a joke is just a joke.

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@All

Meh

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-Aet- Charlie wrote:

@All

Meh

Is that kind of like "*yawn*"?

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