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The word "baleful" has certainly got many negative connotations -- "deadly", "pernicious", and "evil", to name a few.
But what about furries, and others with fantasies (sexual or not) about being permanently turned into animals? People who indeed feel that they are trapped in a body of the wrong species? Couldn't they find the label "baleful" to be offensive in this context?
Should Paizo have been more sensitive in naming this spell?
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Nope. Because people polymorph into trolls all the time.
Hmmm... I see what you did there.
I sense a common thread here Werebat. For shame, sir... for shame. That is all.
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Are you allowed to be offended when you're that far down the geek hierarchy chart?
On that note, has the committee decided if bronies are going above or below the furries?
Nope. Because people polymorph into trolls all the time.
I'm not certain what you're insinuating, sir. Are you saying that certain people have no right to be offended when their identities are debased -- identities that they had no choice in?
Is this the general consensus of this forum?
Hmmm... I see what you did there.
I sense a common thread here Werebat. For shame, sir... for shame. That is all.
I thought the only shame was in offending people due to identity issues that they had no control over.
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No, I think the general consensus is that you're being a putz.
By choice.
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No, you baleful polymorph people into ogres, because you have a sword of ogre decapitation
On that note, has the committee decided if bronies are going above or below the furries?
THIS is something I find extremely offensive.
On the other hand,THIS is something I find extremely offensive.Are you allowed to be offended when you're that far down the geek hierarchy chart?
On that note, has the committee decided if bronies are going above or below the furries?
So, I take it you're a brony?
No, I think the general consensus is that you're being a putz.
By choice.
This.
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Nope. Because people polymorph into trolls all the time.I'm not certain what you're insinuating, sir. Are you saying that certain people have no right to be offended when their identities are debased -- identities that they had no choice in?
Yes, just so. The nail, it has been struck upon its head, by you, without error. That is, in fact, exactly what I'm saying to you.
More specifically, just so there's no misunderstanding, I'm saying that trolls have no right to be offended when their identities are debased, whether they are trolls by choice, trolls by nature, trolls by birth, or trolls simply because they have no aptitude for engaging others in discourse in such a way that their interlocutors are not encouraged, nay compelled, to set them ever-so-gently ablaze. Sir.
Is this the general consensus of this forum?
I doubt it. That'd be ridiculous.
So, wait. We can jut start threads to call whatever we want offensive? This is great! I've always wanted my platform for "The PC term is Hobbits. We're here, we're stumpy, get used to it!"
I'm missing context here? Could someone please clue me in?
Edit: because I'm kind of tempted to respond to the op, but nobody else seems to think that's worthwhile. Did they do something in another thread to give people that impression?
See this.
I'm missing context here? Could someone please clue me in?
Edit: because I'm kind of tempted to respond to the op, but nobody else seems to think that's worthwhile. Did they do something in another thread to give people that impression?
More than one.
I'm missing context here? Could someone please clue me in?
Edit: because I'm kind of tempted to respond to the op, but nobody else seems to think that's worthwhile. Did they do something in another thread to give people that impression?
I'm not sure, Benchak. It seems like some people feel that SOME groups of people have more right to be treated with common decency than OTHER groups of people.
No doubt they'll try to say I'm "trolling" or some such in an effort to deflect attention away from their unpleasant beliefs -- beliefs that they themselves might find too unpleasant to face head on.
Are you allowed to be offended when you're that far down the geek hierarchy chart?
On that note, has the committee decided if bronies are going above or below the furries?
A lot of people as of yet don't even recognize bronies and furries as separate fandoms.
More specifically, just so there's no misunderstanding, I'm saying that trolls have no right to be offended when their identities are debased, whether they are trolls by choice, trolls by nature, trolls by birth, or trolls simply because they have no aptitude for engaging others in discourse in such a way that their interlocutors are not encouraged, nay compelled, to set them ever-so-gently ablaze. Sir.
Ah, TROLLS. Yes, well, I've heard of them -- here, I think.
Bonus at 2:20!
See this.I'm missing context here? Could someone please clue me in?
Edit: because I'm kind of tempted to respond to the op, but nobody else seems to think that's worthwhile. Did they do something in another thread to give people that impression?
I don't understand -- do you think my question in that thread was invalid? If you did, why didn't you say so?
A lot of people as of yet don't even recognize bronies and furries as separate fandoms.
Probably the Klingons holding up the vote again...
Is...is this a thing?
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Is...is this a thing?
Rule 34 says the answer is yes, regardless of what value you use for "this".
I thought furries wanted to be polymorphed into humanoid antropomorphic animal-people, not tiny helpless squirrels.
I just polymorph people into prizewinning cattle and then sell them at auction..is that so wrong.
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i'm a loli otaku. i like cute anime girls and fancy elegant dresses of historical origin marketed at petite females. i'm fine with people calling me a lolicon, because i can differentiate the joking term lolicon from the pedophilia disorder. asking if otherkin are offended by baleful polymorph is like asking if i am offended by the existence of gnomes and halflings
i know i really like women on the smaller end of realistic proportions, in other words, i don't like women that are excessively overendowed in one section or are underendowed in another.
i'm fine with the concept of gnomes and halflings, or an equivalent, it's just i have issues with the names and a few personal associations i have difficulty shaking off.
i like the Tera Elins, i like Pixies, i like Nixies and i like nymphs too. my problem with halflings, stems from Elijah Wood Ruining a huge amount of movies in my youth, and i have learned, my problem isn't Halflings, or Frodo, it's the actor, and my problem with gnomes, is derived from a childhood horror movie, where the villains were garden gnomes, and i could never shake off the name
if you named Hobbits and Halflings, something else that was neither hobbit nor halfling, or named Gnomes, something that wasn't gnome and gave them a unique enough flavor, i'd play them. my problem with PF gnomes, is not the flavor, but having to Write Gnome on my character sheet.
either way, i'm not really offended by them, but these threads, are as intrusive as asking me if i am offended by Gnomes and Halflings.
I thought furries wanted to be polymorphed into humanoid antropomorphic animal-people, not tiny helpless squirrels.
..But being turned into a squirrel doesn't incur the 'helpless' condition!
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I'd like to start a thread entitled "Threads about the relative offensiveness of threads about whether or not things are offensive - Offensive?" But I'd probably just flag it myself and move on.
Besides, I agree with the poster in the other totally not-offensive tread that there is lottle chance of not offending somewhere somehow by anything you do.
As I have commented on this messageboard before, only you allow yourself to be offended. If someone offends you, you have given them a measure of power. Release that power, recognise the offense you feel, and move on. Alert the person if you wish, it might help, but really the problem resides in your inability to filter or process your reaction.
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s I have commented on this messageboard before, only you allow yourself to be offended. If someone offends you, you have given them a measure of power. Release that power, recognise the offense you feel, and move on. Alert the person if you wish, it might help, but really the problem resides in your inability to filter or process your reaction.
Yeah, no. While some people certainly look for things to be offended about, you do not "allow" yourself to be offended. You can control your reaction, walk away from the keyboard instead of feeding the flame war, but the idea that you can stop a feeling or that they have power over you because they're being a prat are total malarkey.
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Fine BNW. It works for me at any rate. Mostly what others term "offensive" I recognise as a, as you so precisely demonstrate, prat exposing their own idiocy, instability or bigotry. And we each have a relative sliding scale for what that is. Some will find this post offensive and are welcome to do so.
For the record, I don't mean "power" as in "power over you" but "more power than they deserve" to have in social milieu. By identifying the behaviour as "offensive" rather than "worthy of ignoring" or in extreme cases, action you give them what they do not deserve - attention.
Malarkey. I like it. But I made it up all by myself via a life existed amongst dramatists that thrived on being offended. The concept above is my response. Thanks for disagreeing so agreeably! ;)
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As a self-proclaimed /b/rony, I would like to chime in and say that:
1) /B/ronies are VERY MUCH different from furries. Where furries identify with a certain animal or are into animals all together and are purely motivated from a sexual manner; /B/ronies tend to onl identify with either Earth Pony, Pegasi, or Unicorn or are attached to a certain pony, whether they be mane 6 or one of the extra ponies (see Derpy or DJ Poni). Additionally, many /b/ronies do not, in fact, engage in clopping (the term used to talk about masturbation to MLP). In fact, it is a small minority that do engage in clopping, it is just a very odd behavior and as such has been used to describe all /b/ronies (much like how Tentacle Hentai is actually a VERY SMALL subsection of hentai but, has now been equated to ALL hentai). Many /b/ronies are actually just regular people who are fans of the show.
2) Fluttershy is best pony (RD is overrated).
Do you even /b/ Paizo messageboards?
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As a self-proclaimed /b/rony, I would like to chime in and say that:
1) /B/ronies are VERY MUCH different from furries. Where furries identify with a certain animal or are into animals all together and are purely motivated from a sexual manner; /B/ronies tend to onl identify with either Earth Pony, Pegasi, or Unicorn or are attached to a certain pony, whether they be mane 6 or one of the extra ponies (see Derpy or DJ Poni). Additionally, many /b/ronies do not, in fact, engage in clopping (the term used to talk about masturbation to MLP). In fact, it is a small minority that do engage in clopping, it is just a very odd behavior and as such has been used to describe all /b/ronies (much like how Tentacle Hentai is actually a VERY SMALL subsection of hentai but, has now been equated to ALL hentai). Many /b/ronies are actually just regular people who are fans of the show.
2) Fluttershy is best pony (RD is overrated).
I have no idea what any of this is...and refuse to google it.
I think I will be safer that way.
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As a self-proclaimed /b/rony, I would like to chime in and say that:
1) /B/ronies are VERY MUCH different from furries. Where furries identify with a certain animal or are into animals all together and are purely motivated from a sexual manner; /B/ronies tend to onl identify with either Earth Pony, Pegasi, or Unicorn or are attached to a certain pony, whether they be mane 6 or one of the extra ponies (see Derpy or DJ Poni). Additionally, many /b/ronies do not, in fact, engage in clopping (the term used to talk about masturbation to MLP). In fact, it is a small minority that do engage in clopping, it is just a very odd behavior and as such has been used to describe all /b/ronies (much like how Tentacle Hentai is actually a VERY SMALL subsection of hentai but, has now been equated to ALL hentai). Many /b/ronies are actually just regular people who are fans of the show.
2) Fluttershy is best pony (RD is overrated).
I have no idea what any of this is...and refuse to google it.
I think I will be safer that way.
somepony OBVIOUSLY doesn't /b/...
xD
Oh ... oh gods. What the holy **** did I just stumble upon?
What is seen cannot be unseen. Not without a bard's modify memory spell, and I'd never trust a bard with my brain.
As for the whole "nerd hierarchy" discussion, any Internet-based Hierarchy is hugely subjective. I'm sure there are Bronies/Furries/Whatever who would lump all RPGers in the same category as LARPers and put us at the bottom. Generally speaking, judging someone for their nerdy habits is counterproductive to nerddom in general.
So spoketh the king of nerds, Joss Whedon.
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So spoketh the king of nerds, Joss Whedon.He's not my king.
TRAITOR!!! OFF WITH HER HEAD!
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I don't understand -- do you think my question in that thread was invalid? If you did, why didn't you say so?See this.I'm missing context here? Could someone please clue me in?
Edit: because I'm kind of tempted to respond to the op, but nobody else seems to think that's worthwhile. Did they do something in another thread to give people that impression?
The point is not that the questions are invalid. It is that the spate of them authored by you over the last day or so does not suggest an intent to seriously converse over the questions, but instead to engender responses. A serious poster would not have need to question a large number of people on such wide-ranging topics separately, when a single thread along the lines of "things that exist in the game that some individuals might find offensive" would suffice. The fact that you have seen reason to split the enquiry into multiple threads suggests that you are not serious about these issues, to the extent of "thread-spamming", which, as several posters have mentioned, is considered tantamount to trolling.
I consider the trans* enquiry to be worthwhile. I consider the subsequent posting of similar threads in what seems to be an attempt to reduce the problem to absurd levels to be a waste of time.
And that's my final word on the matter.
Good Stuff
This.
By just opening one thread after the other in this fashion, each further removed from actual pressing discussion and more of a corner case, you give the impression of somebody who either wants to troll (the motive most people seem to suspect) or somebody who has just read his_her first leftwing sociology article on the trans*-topic and is now excitedly running around, applying their new knowledge to EVERYTHING they can find.
Neither is very productive and both lead to people finding either you obnoxious (whether or not that is justified by further personal traits of yours may remain undiscussed here) or being strenghtened in some kind of opinion that declares trans* people to be whiny, self absorbed and/or overly sensitive. (In this case, your posts are not only unproductive, but rather counterproductive and a VERY bad idea.)
/B/ronies are VERY MUCH different from furries. Where furries identify with a certain animal or are into animals all together and are purely motivated from a sexual manner; /B/ronies tend to onl identify with either Earth Pony, Pegasi, or Unicorn or are attached to a certain pony, whether they be mane 6 or one of the extra ponies (see Derpy or DJ Poni)
Ahhhh hypocrisy, irony, and Poes law all in one cute fuzzy bundle....
