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I fond it amusing, considering that Vin was in the movie, that they basically played Ronan and his Kree separatists like the Lord Marshal and the Necromongers from Chronicles of Riddick (And, in turn, I always thought that the Lord Marshal was borrowing pretty heavily from Thanos).
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Well GotG is a million billion times better than Ninja Turtles. Of course it's back.
Or better know as EXPLOSIONS also starring some Turtles.
It was really odd seeing the Piemaker kick the crap out of Batista.Does this sentence mean anything? what am I missing here?
Lee Pace, the guy who played Ronan, played Ned on the tv show Pushing Daisies who is a pie maker.
It is still number one!!!
Lee Pace, the guy who played Ronan, played Ned on the tv show Pushing Daisies who is a pie maker.It was really odd seeing the Piemaker kick the crap out of Batista.Does this sentence mean anything? what am I missing here?
Wow, I watched both Pushing Daisies and Wonderfalls and didn't realize that was him in all the blue.
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AWE. SOME. MOVIE.
(Saw it with the wife. She started the film by crying. Finished the film by crying. I... might have. Shut up.)
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by the way, when is the next Marvel movie?
edit: sounds like avengers 2 - see link below, which also reveals that they are working on a Black Panther movie
Joss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1, 2015), Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016) and James Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (July 28, 2017).
There's rumors that Doc Strange will be in 2016 as well, but nothing official. To be honest only one Marvel movie in 2015 bums me out! we have been spoiled with at least 2 or 3 Marvel movies a year lately! :)
by the way, when is the next Marvel movie?
edit: sounds like avengers 2 - see link below, which also reveals that they are working on a Black Panther movieJoss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1, 2015), Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016) and James Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (July 28, 2017).
There's rumors that Doc Strange will be in 2016 as well, but nothing official. To be honest only one Marvel movie in 2015 bums me out! we have been spoiled with at least 2 or 3 Marvel movies a year lately! :)
Ant Man is in mid July
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Ant Man is in mid Julyby the way, when is the next Marvel movie?
edit: sounds like avengers 2 - see link below, which also reveals that they are working on a Black Panther movieJoss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1, 2015), Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016) and James Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (July 28, 2017).
There's rumors that Doc Strange will be in 2016 as well, but nothing official. To be honest only one Marvel movie in 2015 bums me out! we have been spoiled with at least 2 or 3 Marvel movies a year lately! :)
So, probably only one good Marvel movie in 2015.
I kid, I kid.
Sort of.
:D
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Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.
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Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.
Yeah, I remember reading some DC fanboy posts in another forum about how horribly GotG would bomb.
I think some jealousy was at work. Marvel's willing to risk throwing a comic that almost nobody had heard of onto the big screen. Meanwhile, DC is too skittish to even attempt a Wonder Woman film.
- see link below, which also reveals that they are working on a Black Panther movie
Showed this to an industry reviewer and his take is that the report is not truly credible.
Of course, 10 months ago it was reported that Feige had said the Black Panther was "absolutely in development" and that they "have plans to bring him to life someday.”So Stan's quote isn't really anymore informative than that.
To say "they're working on" could mean anything... at least as much as Feige already reportedly confirmed.
A world of vague certainties...
Honestly that could be ANY mainline Marvel character without their own film at this point. ^_^
Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.
Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.
Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Yeah, I remember reading some DC fanboy posts in another forum about how horribly GotG would bomb.
I think some jealousy was at work. Marvel's willing to risk throwing a comic that almost nobody had heard of onto the big screen. Meanwhile, DC is too skittish to even attempt a Wonder Woman film.
GotG is also an example of their script development process.
Evidently, they have a pool of lesser known (cheap) writers that they basically assign movies to write a script. They assign some of the lesser known IP's to these writers, or at least projects they aren't already developing. Scripts that make the grade get moved along in development.
Essentially, Marvel studios has a farm system because they purposely want to do ALL of the movies. They're throwing as much muck against the wall in private in an attempt to see what sticks and move on from there.
Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.
While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.
While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.
When I think "bomb"... I think Green Lantern.
And no MCU has every achieved that level of ineptitude.Any one of them might not be to everyone's personal liking or tastes... but none were as bad as that. ;)
Gonna go see it again tonight.
Evidently, they have a pool of lesser known (cheap) writers that they basically assign movies to write a script. They assign some of the lesser known IP's to these writers, or at least projects they aren't already developing. Scripts that make the grade get moved along in development.
They have an internship program here on the West Coast (like their East Coast comic book internship), and the writers there pick properties in the Marvel stable that they develop. The most promising prospects- like Nicole Perlman's Guardians- they may then pick for further development. The end result may or may not resemble what the interns created (James Gunn made major rewrites of Perlman's script).
It's not unlike what many other companies in Hollywood do. I once interned for a literary rights agency/production company that owned a huge stock of plays and short stories from the 20s, 30s, and 40s, and spent the bulk of my day reading those properties and drafting story proposals for them.
Yup, I wasn't under the assumption they they've reinvented the wheel somehow. I do get the impression that they're more organized than DC in this regard. It's why there are more Marvel movies than DC movies lately and why all the Marvel Studios movies are connected (or at least assumed to exist in the same universe) to some degree.
It feels clear that someone has a vision for Marvel and is pushing it forward. The recent Batman trilogy, the new Superman movie and The Arrow have nothing in common, it doesn't feel like DC is taking advantage of the stories they are producing to really make people DC-fans and build up people's familiarity with their overall branding.
Marvel studios is a dedicated enterprise that ONLY does Marvel comic properties. I think DC pretty much is just a part of Warner Bros, and not a separate movie studio. So DC comic movies have to compete with other properties films, and don't have a dedicated creative staff supervising the DCU.
And it shows. That's all I'm saying there.
While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.
Which Marvel movies do you consider terrible? Iron Man 2 is the only one that I don't really like, but even that I consider to be more of an average action flick that suffered from a poor casting choice in Rourke and having to spend too much time laying the foundation for Avengers.
I wish Marvel's animated films/shows were as well-planned and high quality as <snip> DC's animated universe.
This is something I agree with, although much of the greatness of the latter is - from what I can tell - predominantly due to the foundation laid by Bruce Timm/Paul Dini (and the excellent work in laying the foundation with the team from Batman tAS, including Radomski, Kane, Finger, MacCurdy, and Ruegger*).
So basically the TAS people, to start with.
(I suppose there have been other successes, as well, but the DCAU seems to be the largest of them, from what I can tell?)
From what I can tell, Marvel's never really gotten that kind of team together: they've done some good stuff, too (at least I enjoyed it), but it's never quite developed into the DC-level stuff.
But yes: if there was an internally consistent, amazing set-up by Marvel that mimicked the DC one, I'd be over the moon.
(But mostly just because: "More awesome superhero stuff!" instead of "Down with DC/up with Marvel!" 'cause the DCAU is seriously awesome, and I am entirely uninterested in diminishing that.)
* I'm pretty sure there were different writers, but I don't recall them, at present. But add those folk, too.
Which Marvel movies do you consider terrible? Iron Man 2 is the only one that I don't really like, but even that I consider to be more of an average action flick that suffered from a poor casting choice in Rourke and having to spend too much time laying the foundation for Avengers.While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.
Off the top of my head, the original Hulk and maybe Iron Man 3. I actually liked IM2 myself, far more than 3.
And even then, IM3 wasn't terrible.
Which Marvel movies do you consider terrible? Iron Man 2 is the only one that I don't really like, but even that I consider to be more of an average action flick that suffered from a poor casting choice in Rourke and having to spend too much time laying the foundation for Avengers.While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.Off the top of my head, the original Hulk and maybe Iron Man 3. I actually liked IM2 myself, far more than 3.
And even then, IM3 wasn't terrible.
I found Hulk...serviceable. It was okay, without anything that I felt to be overly awesome or overly annoying. It certainly seems to be considered Marvel's biggest failure, given the lack of sequels and the fact that not a single character from that movie has popped up elsewhere.
Iron Man 3 at this point is the only one of the movies to actually annoy me. Iron Man 2 I don't think was very good, but agree with you that a lot of that was because too much MCU setting development got tossed in, and I think the director was not happy at all with the story he wanted to do.
...Hulk...lack of sequels and the fact that not a single character from that movie has popped up elsewhere.
This is due to that movie having been retconned out of existence with The Incredible Hulk. Unless you are referring to The Incredible Hulk, which though no characters have showed up elsewhere, that movie did reference the super-soldier serum, Stark Industries, and Tony Stark was even in the post-credits stinger.
I actually haven't seen the Hulk re-do movie yet, so I can't comment on it.
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...Hulk...lack of sequels and the fact that not a single character from that movie has popped up elsewhere.Could've sworn one character made into The Avengers....big green guy, poor vocabulary, anger management issues....what was his name...?
Kermit?
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Which Marvel movies do you consider terrible? Iron Man 2 is the only one that I don't really like, but even that I consider to be more of an average action flick that suffered from a poor casting choice in Rourke and having to spend too much time laying the foundation for Avengers.While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.Off the top of my head, the original Hulk and maybe Iron Man 3. I actually liked IM2 myself, far more than 3.
And even then, IM3 wasn't terrible.
The Ang Lee Hulk movie that starred Eric Bana? It wasn't a Marvel Studios film.
IM3 is actually one of my favorite Marvel films.
Which Marvel movies do you consider terrible? Iron Man 2 is the only one that I don't really like, but even that I consider to be more of an average action flick that suffered from a poor casting choice in Rourke and having to spend too much time laying the foundation for Avengers.While fair, I didn't mean "bomb" in the financial sense. I meant it in the "this is a terrible movie" sense.Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.Off the top of my head, the original Hulk and maybe Iron Man 3. I actually liked IM2 myself, far more than 3.
And even then, IM3 wasn't terrible.
The Ang Lee Hulk movie that starred Eric Bana? It wasn't a Marvel Studios film.
IM3 is actually one of my favorite Marvel films.
It may be a stoning offense but I liked Ang Lee's Hulk.
IM3 was, IME of course, wholly average and vastly inferior to both Captain America 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy. YMMV.
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I wish Marvel's animated films/shows were as well-planned and high quality as <snip> DC's animated universe.This is something I agree with, although much of the greatness of the latter is - from what I can tell - predominantly due to the foundation laid by Bruce Timm/Paul Dini (and the excellent work in laying the foundation with the team from Batman tAS, including Radomski, Kane, Finger, MacCurdy, and Ruegger*).
So basically the TAS people, to start with.
(I suppose there have been other successes, as well, but the DCAU seems to be the largest of them, from what I can tell?)
From what I can tell, Marvel's never really gotten that kind of team together: they've done some good stuff, too (at least I enjoyed it), but it's never quite developed into the DC-level stuff.
But yes: if there was an internally consistent, amazing set-up by Marvel that mimicked the DC one, I'd be over the moon.
(But mostly just because: "More awesome superhero stuff!" instead of "Down with DC/up with Marvel!" 'cause the DCAU is seriously awesome, and I am entirely uninterested in diminishing that.)
* I'm pretty sure there were different writers, but I don't recall them, at present. But add those folk, too.
The last solid animation from Marvel was Avengers:EMH.
Clean art with tight interpretations of classic and current popular comic stories.What they replaced it with in Avengers Assemble is just a poorly written attempt to draw from the film's audience and to ill effect.
Can't ever deny DCAU its cred. Young Justice was an extraordinary followup but DC has yet to return to that level of excellence since.
DC's adaptations of classic stories to animation films often annoy me for the things that they change about the stories. Most of those changes appear driven by marketing more than any creative improvement to the stories.
Marvel's latest computer animated films are so much filler. No substance or story worth telling and just look so much like MTV Spider-man it hurts.
For those interested, Movie Bob has been doing a comprehensive series recapping all of Marvel's TV animation, breaking them down roughly by decade:
60s/70s | 80s | 90s(part I)
Part II of the 90's will come out this week.
(Regarding Ang Lee vs Ed Norton Hulk's: it's interesting to note that as critically panned as Lee's non-MCU Hulk was, Incredible only made $1.5 million more than it domestically. That's not a huge margin.)
The Ang Lee movie was okay. It had some really neat scenes, some fresh technical ideas, and really tried to show us the archetypical Hulk story.
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The Ang Lee movie was okay. It had some really neat scenes, some fresh technical ideas, and really tried to show us the archetypical Hulk story.
Except for the part that a big gamma nuke never went off in the desert at the same time Banner was trying to save a young dude named Rick Jones... :P
(the whole Banner daddy part was new - to me anyway - and I don't recall Betty Ross ever being a scientist working with Banner... a lot of things were new to Ang Lee's take... not all bad, but definitely different)
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It may be a stoning offense but I liked Ang Lee's Hulk.
It had upsides and downsides. Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly are worth ten Ed Nortons and four Liv Tylers, respectively, but ye gawds, Nick Nolte was terrible as a villain, while Tim Roth was an excellent Blonsky. Then again, I thought Christian Bale was a ponderous and deadly dull Bruce Wayne, and that Michael Keaton did a much better job (and that nobody has even come within low-earth orbit of Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman yet), so I'm probably the last person whose opinion on superhero casting will be relevant. :)
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- see link below, which also reveals that they are working on a Black Panther movie
Showed this to an industry reviewer and his take is that the report is not truly credible.
Of course, 10 months ago it was reported that Feige had said the Black Panther was "absolutely in development" and that they "have plans to bring him to life someday.”
So Stan's quote isn't really anymore informative than that.
To say "they're working on" could mean anything... at least as much as Feige already reportedly confirmed.A world of vague certainties...
Honestly that could be ANY mainline Marvel character without their own film at this point. ^_^Given how surprised I've been by some of the Marvel movies being so much better than expected and some being so much worse, I've really given up any and all attempts to predict which will succeed and which will bomb until I've seen them.Well... here's the thing: No movie in the MCU HAS "bombed." Each one has topped the box office on its opening weekend. Even The Incredible Hulk, which made the least amount of money of all of them domestically.
here's more to feed the black panther rumor mill:
http://comicbook.com/2014/09/08/stan-lee-on-when-the-black-panther-movie-wi ll-be-released/